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dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 22 @ 11:59 AM ET
We had a guy in our section when I had season tix that started taking his daughter when she was a baby. They'd just lay her in a seat and let her chill.

My daughter likes going to Flyers games, but that god damned horn scares the piss out of her. It is obnoxiously loud.

- jmatchett383


The horn broke last night I was laughing my ass off.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 22 @ 11:59 AM ET
Lets just hope they give him more then a game then. Because first NHL game he could be in awe of being there and little less focused as most young kids are in first nhl game.
- Buzzo



I think Martel being recalled when we had plenty of healthy forwards indicate he's going to be given a real shot. Morin seems more like the temporary guy
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 22 @ 12:01 PM ET
The horn broke last night I was laughing my ass off.
- dragonoffrost


It probably seized from lack of use.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 22 @ 12:02 PM ET
When Hextall took over after the 13-14 season the roster included current players 28-14-93-17-24-12-47. Beyond that they had Hartnell, Streit, the Schenn brothers, Vinny, Timonen, Coburn, Grossmann, Gustafsson, Hall, McGinn, Rinaldo, Rosehill, VDV, Mason, Emergy, and the contract of Pronger.

He had said when he took over he was going to build from withing. Serious question to those who want to give their opinion, looking at the roster then and hearing him say he was building from within, at what point did you expect them to be a consistent playoff team and at what point a cup contender? Esp knowing the NHL isn't the NFL or NBA where people are drafted and play immediately. just curious.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 22 @ 12:04 PM ET
they suck. the end.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 22 @ 12:04 PM ET
It probably seized from lack of use.
- jmatchett383


Horn didn't work... No goal song.

Classic!
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 22 @ 12:04 PM ET
When Hextall took over after the 13-14 season the roster included current players 28-14-93-17-24-12-47. Beyond that they had Hartnell, Streit, the Schenn brothers, Vinny, Timonen, Coburn, Grossmann, Gustafsson, Hall, McGinn, Rinaldo, Rosehill, VDV, Mason, Emergy, and the contract of Pronger.

He had said when he took over he was going to build from withing. Serious question to those who want to give their opinion, looking at the roster then and hearing him say he was building from within, at what point did you expect them to be a consistent playoff team and at what point a cup contender? Esp knowing the NHL isn't the NFL or NBA where people are drafted and play immediately. just curious.

- nastyflyergirl



I expected to be a consistent 5-8 seed by year 5. Contender by year 7. Cup winner within 10 years.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 22 @ 12:05 PM ET
When Hextall took over after the 13-14 season the roster included current players 28-14-93-17-24-12-47. Beyond that they had Hartnell, Streit, the Schenn brothers, Vinny, Timonen, Coburn, Grossmann, Gustafsson, Hall, McGinn, Rinaldo, Rosehill, VDV, Mason, Emergy, and the contract of Pronger.

He had said when he took over he was going to build from withing. Serious question to those who want to give their opinion, looking at the roster then and hearing him say he was building from within, at what point did you expect them to be a consistent playoff team and at what point a cup contender? Esp knowing the NHL isn't the NFL or NBA where people are drafted and play immediately. just curious.

- nastyflyergirl


Enjoyed seeing him get his ass kicked the other night.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Nov 22 @ 12:07 PM ET
When Hextall took over after the 13-14 season the roster included current players 28-14-93-17-24-12-47. Beyond that they had Hartnell, Streit, the Schenn brothers, Vinny, Timonen, Coburn, Grossmann, Gustafsson, Hall, McGinn, Rinaldo, Rosehill, VDV, Mason, Emergy, and the contract of Pronger.

He had said when he took over he was going to build from withing. Serious question to those who want to give their opinion, looking at the roster then and hearing him say he was building from within, at what point did you expect them to be a consistent playoff team and at what point a cup contender? Esp knowing the NHL isn't the NFL or NBA where people are drafted and play immediately. just curious.

- nastyflyergirl


I originally thought this was going to be the "turn the corner" year. Next year might not be that year either. I havent totally thrown in the towel for this season, but after last night's display... there had better be a different product on the ice with consecutive divisional games tonight and friday afternoon.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 22 @ 12:07 PM ET
When Hextall took over after the 13-14 season the roster included current players 28-14-93-17-24-12-47. Beyond that they had Hartnell, Streit, the Schenn brothers, Vinny, Timonen, Coburn, Grossmann, Gustafsson, Hall, McGinn, Rinaldo, Rosehill, VDV, Mason, Emergy, and the contract of Pronger.

He had said when he took over he was going to build from withing. Serious question to those who want to give their opinion, looking at the roster then and hearing him say he was building from within, at what point did you expect them to be a consistent playoff team and at what point a cup contender? Esp knowing the NHL isn't the NFL or NBA where people are drafted and play immediately. just curious.

- nastyflyergirl



Also the NFL isn't exactly known for quick turn arounds. Franchise qb are hard to find we got one by trading a boat load of picks. Can the flyers do the same for a generational talent ? They constructed a 53 man roster of previous winners and leaders through free agency and trades. Can the flyers do that ? They traded from positions of strength to help solve positions of needed ? Couldn't the flyers do that ?

I get your point. But we should be further along imo.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 22 @ 12:08 PM ET
When Hextall took over after the 13-14 season the roster included current players 28-14-93-17-24-12-47. Beyond that they had Hartnell, Streit, the Schenn brothers, Vinny, Timonen, Coburn, Grossmann, Gustafsson, Hall, McGinn, Rinaldo, Rosehill, VDV, Mason, Emergy, and the contract of Pronger.

He had said when he took over he was going to build from withing. Serious question to those who want to give their opinion, looking at the roster then and hearing him say he was building from within, at what point did you expect them to be a consistent playoff team and at what point a cup contender? Esp knowing the NHL isn't the NFL or NBA where people are drafted and play immediately. just curious.

- nastyflyergirl



Your right.

I had them taking the first step forward in to being a constant playoff team in the 19-20 season.

They still have some roster shuffling to do before they are a complete team.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 22 @ 12:09 PM ET
VladyT got some serious locker room props last night I bet.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 22 @ 12:11 PM ET
Enjoyed seeing him get his ass kicked the other night.
- jmatchett383


missed that, who kicked his ass?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 22 @ 12:11 PM ET
Also the NFL isn't exactly known for quick turn arounds. Franchise qb are hard to find we got one by trading a boat load of picks. Can the flyers do the same for a generational talent ? They constructed a 53 man roster of previous winners and leaders through free agency and trades. Can the flyers do that ? They traded from positions of strength to help solve positions of needed ? Couldn't the flyers do that ?

I get your point. But we should be further along imo.

- Tfaehner



It's not an exact science. Look at Buffalo. They tanked for a generational talent and still seem to be treading water in the bottom of the league.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 22 @ 12:13 PM ET
Unfortunately can't watch tonight, but I'm excited to see what Martel and Morin can do
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 22 @ 12:13 PM ET
they suck. the end.
- hammarby31


The present is bleak hammar, the future is brighter than an infinite amount of suns.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 22 @ 12:13 PM ET
It's not an exact science. Look at Buffalo. They tanked for a generational talent and still seem to be treading water in the bottom of the league.
- J35Bacher



I'm not saying to tank. We're at a point where we have a surplus of picks and prospects already. Can we now add the necessary vets through free agency and make some deals to be more competitive now ? We need quality over quantity at this point. Another thing the eagles did was threw out players who might not be quite ready and let them learn on the job. Who would of thought mills would be a top corner in the NFL and leader off the field?
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Nov 22 @ 12:13 PM ET
When Hextall took over after the 13-14 season the roster included current players 28-14-93-17-24-12-47. Beyond that they had Hartnell, Streit, the Schenn brothers, Vinny, Timonen, Coburn, Grossmann, Gustafsson, Hall, McGinn, Rinaldo, Rosehill, VDV, Mason, Emergy, and the contract of Pronger.

He had said when he took over he was going to build from withing. Serious question to those who want to give their opinion, looking at the roster then and hearing him say he was building from within, at what point did you expect them to be a consistent playoff team and at what point a cup contender? Esp knowing the NHL isn't the NFL or NBA where people are drafted and play immediately. just curious.

- nastyflyergirl

Well by this year I was thinking playoffs in a wild card spot for sure and a first round exit. Next year I pegged as the start of those years where they should be going farther in the playoffs and starting to contend for cups and be one of the top teams in the league.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 22 @ 12:14 PM ET
Wait...Morin got called up for tonight?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 22 @ 12:14 PM ET
Your right.

I had them taking the first step forward in to being a constant playoff team in the 19-20 season.

They still have some roster shuffling to do before they are a complete team.

- J35Bacher



over the next season or two I'd have to think Filppula, Lehtera, Read and Raffl will be gone. the defense is young and that will take time. My question marks are what to do with Simmonds and of course the age old goaltening situation.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Nov 22 @ 12:17 PM ET
Also a good goalie can make a decent team look amazing if Carter Hart is as good as he is expected to be he is going to be a major factor in why this team is a contender in the future.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 22 @ 12:19 PM ET
At least Hextall did something to try and give these guys a spark. I mean they are only 4 point out of a playoff spot right now and that spot belongs to the Islanders which they play the next two games. 2 wins here and they can easily make up some ground. This team can still make the playoffs they just need to have a good showing against their division, a majority of those 4 point division games still need to be played. Hope this lights a fire under this team.
- FreshFlyer


He had to do something. At the very least this is a distraction for a game or two of the dumpster fire the month of November has been. Question is, if they drop both games to the Fishsticks then what? There is growing pains along the road to becoming a contender. Don't let this fool you. This is downright non competitive horsepoop that has been going on the last 5 weeks. This keeps up much longer and there will be a coaching change.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 22 @ 12:19 PM ET
Also the NFL isn't exactly known for quick turn arounds. Franchise qb are hard to find we got one by trading a boat load of picks. Can the flyers do the same for a generational talent ? They constructed a 53 man roster of previous winners and leaders through free agency and trades. Can the flyers do that ? They traded from positions of strength to help solve positions of needed ? Couldn't the flyers do that ?

I get your point. But we should be further along imo.

- Tfaehner



I don't disagree but like you said if you get that QB you are gold. typically kids drafted are in the 20-22 year range. More kids jump from college to the NFL and contribute right away. I view football differently. I mean, honestly how many NHL teams turn it around over the course of a year and consistently win opposed to being a one year wonder (2010 Flyers)?

nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 22 @ 12:24 PM ET
Your right.

I had them taking the first step forward in to being a constant playoff team in the 19-20 season.

They still have some roster shuffling to do before they are a complete team.

- J35Bacher



I'm not even trying to prove a point in being right. Seriously asking the question. I think as fans we can be impatient and unrealistic at times because we all are championship deprived. I get it. I get that a vast majority on here has NEVER seen them win a cup. It sucks. All I know is the old way produced good times and good seasons but not a championship. I want to see a team built that will win for years and get that cup. Now time will tell if the picks Hextall has made are the right ones but until we start seeing them in the lineup I am being patient. I don't want to see them hand out any more Vinny contracts to UFAs.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 22 @ 12:26 PM ET
I don't disagree but like you said if you get that QB you are gold. typically kids drafted are in the 20-22 year range. More kids jump from college to the NFL and contribute right away. I view football differently. I mean, honestly how many NHL teams turn it around over the course of a year and consistently win opposed to being a one year wonder (2010 Flyers)?
- nastyflyergirl



Football players at skill positions tend to come in instantly the rest are usually rotation players. With the exceptions of the high end guys of course. It is different but not as far off as you seem to be implying imo. A 53 man roster is extremely difficult to construct. Would Arizona for instance be enticed (since they're the browns of the nhl) by a high end prospect middle grade prospect and 2 first rounders for a top 3 pick assuming they get 1?
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