As it stands now, the only lineup option Hakstol really has is swapping Weise and Lehtera in and out and line juggling. I think he needs more to work with.

You still have not answered my question. I'm telling you that NHL players being paid millions of dollars as professionals should not need to be motivated and given a rah-rah speech to be ready to play and compete. A coach is only as good as his players and that team hung their coach out to dry tonight. With a few exceptions they should be embarrassed of themselves. If this continues, something will need to be done.
- MJL

Your question totally ignores the fact that its on a coach to get players motivated for games sometimes but whatever man there is no point in talking to you. All you are ever going to do is refute what anyone says that doesn't align with your idiotic views. Play a game of hockey in an actual league and come talk to me with your bs opinion afterwards.

It’s really troubling. If I’m a pro I think I either respect a coach because of his track record or he inspires me to want to play for him. So, strike one, he has no pro track record. That makes me skeptical. Now he either needs to be an innovative thinker or he needs to inspire me like him. This guy seems as vanilla as they come and not particularly charming or interesting.
- Dkos

I think we have to be very careful when looking at a coach and trying to paint how he is with what little actual exposure we get. I think he's an even keel guy but I saw a rage in his eyes from the few glimpses we got and I think he's a straight shooter and an even keeled guy that when he's pissed, you'll know it. The real problem is that he doesn't have that many buttons to push. Tight schedule with a lot of games so what is he going to do, skate them into the ground in practice? Scratch players? For who? I think right now he is a coach who isn't getting much from his players including leadership.

Your question totally ignores the fact that its on a coach to get players motivated for games sometimes but whatever man there is no point in talking to you. All you are ever going to do is refute what anyone says that doesn't align with your idiotic views. Play a game of hockey in an actual league and come talk to me with your bs opinion afterwards.
- FreshFlyer

My question doesn't ignore anything. You're simply ignoring the question. If you're going to blame the coach for the team not being motivated to play then I want to know what the coach did in the latter half of the third period when the team finally showed a spark and started to compete. If you look into that, you won't like what you see and might have to admit to the reality.

All you're posting is irrelevant rhetoric and getting personal. That is disqualifying.

I can see it now, hey Simmer, are you motivated for tonight? Nope, coach didn't fire me up, I'm not going to compete tonight. Hey Jake, are you fired up? Nope, coach didn't fire me up, I'm just going to go through the motions. How about you Coots? Filp? Mandog? Nope! That's a consensus, let's go out there and give crap poop effort because we were not sufficiently motivated and fired up to play tonight. All in on 3!

There is a bunch of fans here who would benefit from being in an NHL locker room before games during a season to see some reality.
- MJL

Because apparently you have been in one more often then anyone else right?

MJL is the only person more annoying that Hakstol and Hextall. Dumb and Dumber and MJL. HaHa. Three pieces of garbage nobody needs.
- joegreif17

Because apparently you have been in one more often then anyone else right?
- Buzzo

Apparently I do know the reality.

yeesh

My question doesn't ignore anything. You're simply ignoring the question. If you're going to blame the coach for the team not being motivated to play then I want to know what the coach did in the latter half of the third period when the team finally showed a spark and started to compete. If you look into that, you won't like what you see and might have to admit to the reality.

All you're posting is irrelevant rhetoric and getting personal. That is disqualifying.
- MJL

How do you know he never said anything during a tv time out or (frank)ing yelled at them to get them going give me a break dude. Ask any ex nhl player and they will tell you a coach is meant to be a motivator in the room. I've listened to several ex players speak about the game before on radio and other media outlets and their sentiments are pretty much the same you are the one who refuses to ever admit that your opinion may not be the right one. Like I said earlier go (frank) yourself and by the way basically no one on this board probably wants you even posting here all you ever do is argue and argue because you can never be wrong and let something go right ? Do us all a favour and stop posting man people just want to be able to say their pieces without having you criticize it all the time claiming we are all wrong but you.

this team sucks

How do you know he never said anything during a tv time out or (frank)ing yelled at them to get them going give me a break dude. Ask any ex nhl player and they will tell you a coach is meant to be a motivator in the room. I've listened to several ex players speak about the game before on radio and other media outlets and their sentiments are pretty much the same you are the one who refuses to ever admit that your opinion may not be the right one. Like I said earlier go (frank) yourself and by the way basically no one on this board probably wants you even posting here all you ever do is argue and argue because you can never be wrong and let something go right ? Do us all a favour and stop posting man we others just want to be able to say their pieces without having you criticize it all the time claiming we are all wrong but you.
- FreshFlyer

Where did I say that he never said anything during a TV time out or didn't yell at the players? We'll start with that.

Where did I say that he never said anything during a TV time out or didn't yell at the players? We'll start with that.
- MJL

You said you wanted to know what the coach may have done to get the players playing with some spark at the end of the game like they were I gave you a realistic possibility of what may have happened. So once again go (frank) yourself

christ schenn with 2 goals and 2 assists tonight

what bothers me is no one on this team is fighting

Lindros? he'd kick the poop out of someone right now even Richards would fight

You said you wanted to know what the coach may have done to get the players playing with some spark at the end of the game like they where I gave you a realistic possibility of what may have happened. So once again go (frank) yourself
- FreshFlyer

Yes, I do want to know what he did. I'm sure he did yell at the players and said something to them. Do you think he waited to do that late in the 3rd period or did he yell and say something to the players previous to that. How do you think he felt about the first PP unit when they lazily gave up a shorthanded chance against and he pulled them off the ice after 30 seconds. Do you think when they came back to the bench he asked them how their day was?

This false narrative that they played like they did tonight because the coach didn't motivate them to play is complete nonsense. In my opinion.

think about this guys the eagles have more wins than the flyers

I sense a ban hammer looming.

Well, that escalated quickly...

I sense a ban hammer looming.
- flyer_nutter

Who cares man I have been on these boards for years and barely post, when I do I am just trying to have an innocent conversation about hockey without my opinion being attacked by idiots like MJL almost every post and that is a main factor as to why I rarely post anymore haha tools like this guy thinking they know everything about the game.

Who cares man I have been on these boards for years and barely post, when I do I am just trying to have an innocent conversation about hockey without my opinion being attacked by idiots like MJL almost every post and that is a main factor as to why I rarely post anymore haha tools like this guy thinking they know everything about the game.
- FreshFlyer

All good man. No worries from me.

If you want a silver lining. I would bet he’s an older fellow. Just a vibe.

All good man. No worries from me.

If you want a silver lining. I would bet he’s an older fellow. Just a vibe.
- flyer_nutter

Yeah most likely, just irks me , because talking hockey with some guys on here can be pretty fun but dudes like that have to get all serious and argue every single point to death like just leave it alone haha

My question doesn't ignore anything. You're simply ignoring the question. If you're going to blame the coach for the team not being motivated to play then I want to know what the coach did in the latter half of the third period when the team finally showed a spark and started to compete. If you look into that, you won't like what you see and might have to admit to the reality.

All you're posting is irrelevant rhetoric and getting personal. That is disqualifying.
- MJL

And you’re baiting him. You’re right pros should motivate themselves. The coach did nothing to motivate the players to pickup their play at the end of the game and yet they did pick up their play. They scored one goal and lost 5-2. Yay, the players are unmotivated and the coach can’t to do anything to change that. You win.

And you’re baiting him. You’re right pros should motivate themselves. The coach did nothing to motivate the players to pickup their play at the end of the game and yet they did pick up their play. They scored one goal and lost 5-2. Yay, the players are unmotivated and the coach can’t to do anything to change that. You win.
- Dkos

well you can't trade all the players so might as well fire the coach

So, what is the coach’s role when it comes to Motivation?

Simply, the coach’s role is to create the environment and to provide the opportunity for the athlete to express their motivation in all that they do.
It is the coach’s role to support the athlete and encourage them to unleash their “fire” in preparation and performance.
It is the coach’s role to help athletes discover their own motivation: to find their “fire”.
It is the coach’s role to inspire athletes to feel confident in themselves and to feel empowered to let their “fire” free.
Motivation is a powerful ally for coaches and an important aspect of successful coaching.

http://wgcoaching.com/motivation-coaching/

Nah it's not Hakstols job tho to motivate his players

And you’re baiting him. You’re right pros should motivate themselves. The coach did nothing to motivate the players to pickup their play at the end of the game and yet they did pick up their play. They scored one goal and lost 5-2. Yay, the players are unmotivated and the coach can’t to do anything to change that. You win.
- Dkos

I'm not baiting anyone. I'm just giving my opinion on the game. He came at me.


I think a coach has to have tools to work with to change things. I think he has to have scoring depth throughout a lineup rather than having one line who is giving him consistent offense. Numerous players that have been counted on for secondary offense are not producing. Players are making individual poor plays all over the ice such as Weal not getting the puck deep when the defense is changing behind the play on one goal. I didn't see a single veteran offensive that decided they were going to make a play and turn the tide. I didn't see the fight in the team. A coach needs leadership and a bridge to the players to get buy in. All the motivational speeches in the world aren't likely to change that. I'm not saying the coach is immune form criticism here, I just don't agree with giving him all the criticism and I don't agree with this idea that he didn't motivate them for the game tonight and that's the reason for how they played. If that makes me a bad guy, so be it. I understand the frustration. That effort tonight was appalling. If it continues then Hextall needs to look at the coach and decide if a a change is needed.