MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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If you are seriously trying to say that it isn't a part of the coaches job to motivate his players than you really know nothing whatsoever about the game of hockey. And please stop posting like everything you say about this team is completely right and only your opinion is the right one. You don't know (frank)ing poop you probably have never even played the game it's annoying dude - FreshFlyer
Your dodging my question again. If you seriously think that an NHL coach needs to motivate his players to play with passion or we get that nonsense that we got in tonights game than you don't know jack squat about this game. If this group of players needs motivation from the coach to compete on a game by game basis then that is a problem for the GM who has to look at his players, rather than a coaching issue.
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joegreif17
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Location: Hockeyville, BC Joined: 05.10.2009
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Pathetic performance! Sloppy and this Flyer team is probably worse off than Vegas or the Yotes. For the record after two periods tonight B. Schenn has 3 more points
That is 18 points in his last 8 games. We give him away for potential that is years away if ever. No fun watching these misfits and I am pretty much done until Hakstol is fired. It should happen by Xmas and that will be my Xmas present |
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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Professional athletes being paid millions of dollars to play a game should not need to be motivated to play. A coach can only put the choices he has in the lineup. He isn't being given much to work with throughout the lineup with a lot of players coming up small. He would need to hold a lot of players accountable after this game. If this continues we know who will be held accountable. - MJL
In fairy land world professional athletes dont need to get motivation from coaches. But these guys are human. It’s a fact of sports that coaches are viewed as the general....the leader....the guy you trust and do what he says because you trust that guy....you trust his message ....do you see that in Hakstol? I sure as (frank) don’t. |
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fls13
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 03.24.2009
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Bring some young guys up, nothing to lose at this point. Getting young players experience is always a good thing and having Morin, Vecchione and Martel in the line up now will only benefit the Flyers more in the future. Scratch Lehtera and Raffl plug those two in on forward and put in Morin for Alt. - FreshFlyer
Management has to do something. You can't let this current slump they're in ride. The team needs something different up front and I would have swapped Alt out for Morin as soon as he got healthy. |
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I understand building through the draft and building the farm. We should have some $$ next year. Any chance Hextall tries to get some UFA help or is that still 2 years away? |
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joegreif17
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Location: Hockeyville, BC Joined: 05.10.2009
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MJL is the only person more annoying that Hakstol and Hextall. Dumb and Dumber and MJL. HaHa. Three pieces of garbage nobody needs. |
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Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Dauphin, MB Joined: 02.07.2011
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If you are seriously trying to say that it isn't a part of the coaches job to motivate his players than you really know nothing whatsoever about the game of hockey. And please stop posting like everything you say about this team is completely right and only your opinion is the right one. You don't know (frank)ing poop you probably have never even played the game it's annoying dude - FreshFlyer
Exactly, that is why I never even wasted my time trying to explain this to him. He is obviously clueless on what a coaches job is.
I remember when we poop the bed in games, our coach tearing a strip down our backs and before games we would get pump up motivational speeches and if we did not perform on the ice, we would sit a shift or two, then get told if you want to get back on the ice or miss another shift, work your ass off! |
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Dkos
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Gritty, PA Joined: 01.15.2007
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Your dodging my question again. If you seriously think that an NHL coach needs to motivate his players to play with passion or we get that nonsense that we got in tonights game than you don't know jack squat about this game. If this group of players needs motivation from the coach to compete on a game by game basis then that is a problem for the GM who has to look at his players, rather than a coaching issue. - MJL
A coach that the players don’t respect or like can do the opposite of motivating a team. I’m not saying that’s what’s happening here, but this team certainly looks like it has lost interest in competing. I don’t really see much evidence of this coach improving things. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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In fairy land world professional athletes dont need to get motivation from coaches. But these guys are human. It’s a fact of sports that coaches are viewed as the general....the leader....the guy you trust and do what he says because you trust that guy....you trust his message ....do you see that in Hakstol? I sure as (frank) don’t. - landros 2
The leaders are really the players and every good team has players that are a bridge between the coach and the team. Players have to have buy in for a coach for it to work. Right now, they don't present as a well coached team or a team that is confident. Tonight's effort is very disturbing. If they don't come out with some real fire in the next few games then if I was Hextall it would be something I'd have to look at because you can't let what happened tonight fester. They were a dead, emotionless team tonight and you can't trade the team.
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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A coach that the players don’t respect or like can do the opposite of motivating a team. I’m not saying that’s what’s happening here, but this team certainly looks like it has lost interest in competing. I don’t really see much evidence of this coach improving things. - Dkos
That's true and a team can tune out a coach and tonight's game showed some signs of that. We have to see what happens in the next few games.
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FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.17.2011
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Your dodging my question again. If you seriously think that an NHL coach needs to motivate his players to play with passion or we get that nonsense that we got in tonights game than you don't know jack squat about this game. If this group of players needs motivation from the coach to compete on a game by game basis then that is a problem for the GM who has to look at his players, rather than a coaching issue. - MJL
Why even have a coach then if the players can motivate themselves. And of course you could never acknowledge the opinion of others being right when yours is clearly wrong in this case. Go fukkk yourself , how can you honestly tell me a coach isn't a motivator to players. Clearly you haven't played a game of hockey in your (frank)ing life man . A good coach knows how to push the buttons of players to get them going in situations like this. I have not seen any indication Hakstol is the type to do that which is an issue for me.
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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I will say, whenever the day comes Varsity is fired. Richard pics for all. |
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FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.17.2011
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Exactly, that is why I never even wasted my time trying to explain this to him. He is obviously clueless on what a coaches job is.
I remember when we poop the bed in games, our coach tearing a strip down our backs and before games we would get pump up motivational speeches and if we did not perform on the ice, we would sit a shift or two, then get told if you want to get back on the ice or miss another shift, work your ass off! - Buzzo
Exactly, as a coach you need to do stuff like this to push the buttons of your players. That is motivating in itself. Hakstol doesn't look like the type who even yells at these guys, like (frank) show some emotion out there |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Exactly, that is why I never even wasted my time trying to explain this to him. He is obviously clueless on what a coaches job is.
I remember when we poop the bed in games, our coach tearing a strip down our backs and before games we would get pump up motivational speeches and if we did not perform on the ice, we would sit a shift or two, then get told if you want to get back on the ice or miss another shift, work your ass off! - Buzzo
That's what the problem was tonight. Hakstol didn't make a pumped up motivational speech and the players were not sufficiently motivated and they refused to play with any passion or intensity tonight because of that. Any way we can maybe send Hakstol an email and let him know this? Maybe they can show a few clips from Hoosiers or Rudy before tomorrow's game. or maybe some Knute Rockne clips. |
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ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I like cold beverages, NJ Joined: 04.09.2008
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I understand building through the draft and building the farm. We should have some $$ next year. Any chance Hextall tries to get some UFA help or is that still 2 years away? - jstross
Have you seen his track record of Free Agent signings?
I prefer Hextall not sign anyone this summer.
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KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people Joined: 01.10.2008
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on the bright-side, elliott's gaa went down and his Sv% went up |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Why even have a coach then if the players can motivate themselves. And of course you could never acknowledge the opinion of others being right when yours is clearly wrong in this case. Go fukkk yourself , how can you honestly tell me a coach isn't a motivator to players. Clearly you haven't played a game of hockey in your (frank)ing life man . A good coach knows how to push the buttons of players to get them going in situations like this. I have not seen any indication Hakstol is the type to do that which is an issue for me. - FreshFlyer
You still have not answered my question. I'm telling you that NHL players being paid millions of dollars as professionals should not need to be motivated and given a rah-rah speech to be ready to play and compete. A coach is only as good as his players and that team hung their coach out to dry tonight. With a few exceptions they should be embarrassed of themselves. If this continues, something will need to be done.
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FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.17.2011
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That's what the problem was tonight. Hakstol didn't make a pumped up motivational speech and the players were not sufficiently motivated and they refused to play with any passion or intensity tonight because of that. Any way we can maybe send Hakstol an email and let him know this? Maybe they can show a few clips from Hoosiers or Rudy before tomorrow's game. or maybe some Knute Rockne clips. - MJL
Just because you are getting millions to play a game doesn't mean a coach getting the boys fired up before a game is something that should be overlooked. It's his job to get the players amped for the game in my opinion and he obviously didn't do that. |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Crazy thoughts.
-I don’t like Hak to go yet, but Lappy is out on his ass. That would be something I would do now.
G-C-V
Lindblom-Patrick-Konecny
Weal-Vech-Simmonds
Leier-Laughton-Martel
Raffl is your extra
Prov-Hägg
Morin-Ghost
Sanheim-whoever
Slot Mac in when he’s healthy and re-evaluate when Gudas is allowed to play.
Roll out autobots. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Just because you are getting millions to play a game doesn't mean a coach getting the boys fired up before a game is something that should be overlooked. It's his job to get the players amped for the game in my opinion and he obviously didn't do that. - FreshFlyer
I can see it now, hey Simmer, are you motivated for tonight? Nope, coach didn't fire me up, I'm not going to compete tonight. Hey Jake, are you fired up? Nope, coach didn't fire me up, I'm just going to go through the motions. How about you Coots? Filp? Mandog? Nope! That's a consensus, let's go out there and give crap poop effort because we were not sufficiently motivated and fired up to play tonight. All in on 3!
There is a bunch of fans here who would benefit from being in an NHL locker room before games during a season to see some reality. |
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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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What a disappointing game to attend... Neuvirth was horrible. Have no clue what the (frank) is going on with Simmonds; he was flat out bad tonight. Only life he showed is when Provy got decked late in the final minutes of the 3rd. It also would be great if we shot the puck, and when we do, at least hit the net or come close to it. Countless times shots went wide and far and countless times we shot the puck right at Markstrom. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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What a disappointing game to attend... Neuvirth was horrible. Have no clue what the (frank) is going on with Simmonds; he was flat out bad tonight. Only life he showed is when Provy got decked late in the final minutes of the 3rd. It also would be great if we shot the puck, and when we do, at least hit the net or come close to it. Countless times shots went wide and far and countless times we shot the puck right at Markstrom. - arichardson22
Get with the program, it's all on the coach. Sorry you had to be present for that nonsense. |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Get with the program, it's all on the coach. Sorry you had to be present for that nonsense. - MJL
Yup. That’s exactly what they said. All on the coach.
wiener. |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Are you like this at home? Dear lord that’s disturbing. |
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Dkos
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Gritty, PA Joined: 01.15.2007
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That's true and a team can tune out a coach and tonight's game showed some signs of that. We have to see what happens in the next few games. - MJL
It’s really troubling. If I’m a pro I think I either respect a coach because of his track record or he inspires me to want to play for him. So, strike one, he has no pro track record. That makes me skeptical. Now he either needs to be an innovative thinker or he needs to inspire me like him. This guy seems as vanilla as they come and not particularly charming or interesting. |
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