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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Nov 20 @ 11:08 PM ET
That's why you had to write multiple posts/paragraphs to make your point.


- J-P


I think it's another kind of alert but Howard doesn't like when we use the "R" word so...
Chardcore709
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Passion That Unites Us All , NF
Joined: 10.03.2006

Nov 20 @ 11:20 PM ET
That's why you had to write multiple posts/paragraphs to make your point.


- J-P


Cant say I get the point your trying to make. But that red goal light just gave me some kindoff dejavu feeling...oh yeah that was saturday night, my bad!
Chardcore709
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Passion That Unites Us All , NF
Joined: 10.03.2006

Nov 20 @ 11:20 PM ET
That's why you had to write multiple posts/paragraphs to make your point.


- J-P


Cant say I get the point your trying to make. But that red goal light just gave me some kindoff dejavu feeling...oh yeah that was saturday night, my bad!
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Nov 20 @ 11:23 PM ET
This must be a drunken post? You can get high draft picks and blue chip prospects for this list of rejects? If you can you should be hired tomorrow and bergevin fired instantly. Send in your resume and get on the first bus to the bell centre.

You guys have to give it up with galchenyuk as of right now he lands you a third round pick at best. Alzner could have been signed by anyone for nothing in the off season and hes still on a new contract withnsome term which most teams arent going to buy into. He might get you a 4th round pick, maybe a third from a bad gm thats desperate. Patches will get you a late 1st round pick and maybe even a number 7 dman like the habs like so much. Byron might get you a 5th round pick. Plekanec has a terrible conttact he is good on d but no one wants that cap hit for 2 million dollar player. Those are the type contracts teams give assets along with to get rid of contracts. And what are you talking about with mitchell and davidson these are ahl players that no one is trading for. But your expecting blue chip prospects and top draft picks?

I have to ask, you do know what blue chip prospect means right? Most teams dont have more then a couple and some teams like yours currently have none.

What you need to do is is take a day off and maybe sit down and watch the leafs vs canadians game from saturday night and take a look at some blue chip prospects do there thing.

- Chardcore709


I was going to make a humerous response with leafs equivalents to show how stupid the stuff you say is, but the bolded makes it pretty clear you're just blatantly trolling.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Nov 20 @ 11:30 PM ET
Oh Ive always been as friendly and pleasant as this. I am glad your finally admitting they suck as thats the first step. Just a month or so you were stanley cup favs and division winners in here. And who really gives a shat about the past, that's what it is the past. Next thing youll be telling me how its only been 25 years since you won a cup I suppose. La de da, hahaha...
- Chardcore709


I'd love to see who made that claim... the reality is a month ago we (Habs fans) were rightfully complaining about the lack of #1C and #2D.
Chardcore709
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Passion That Unites Us All , NF
Joined: 10.03.2006

Nov 20 @ 11:53 PM ET
I was going to make a humerous response with leafs equivalents to show how stupid the stuff you say is, but the bolded makes it pretty clear you're just blatantly trolling.
- apex123


Hey you can give all the examples you want of leafs but I didnt put a list out there of players that can land me blue chip players and high draft picks that included ahl caliber players. You have to expect to get slammed on that and if you read back I wasnt the first. Im sure you can even agree that mitchell and davidson are not bringing you back jack.

I do have to ask you though since my trades were so outlandish what do you think galchenyuk gets you? A young player that is a centre that cant play centre, spends most of the past two years on the wing of the 3rd and 4th line by two different coaches. That has had a knee injury at a young age which is never good. As played with no heart over the past years and has to be one if the worst defensive forwards in the league, he is downright awful. He makes phil kessel look like scott stevens. The only person I could compare him to would maybe be yakupov.

Then what do you think a 5'9, 28 year old byron lands you? On most teams he is a third liner who in his career averages your team about 25 points a year? Most third lines are shut down lines and hes certainly not a shut down player and not talented enough to be top 6.

And I like patches and he's usually a solid player and I said you can land a 1st for him but its most likely a later pick as most teams that would trade for him are going to be top contenders. Would ve silly for a bottom feeding team to give up at a chance at a top 5 pick for a seasoned vet. Maybe you get a low end nhl dman or forward with him or maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick or something if you find the perfect deal.

I love debating and talking hockey and im obviously not a habs supporter and a solid leafs fan. I like giving people the gears a little but I can also take it when people give it back. And habs fans have no issues doing that when things are going good for there team. You can call it trolling if you want but thats the cowardly soar thing to do. I generate discussions and good back and forth banter, maybe thats just me.

I would love for you to tell me what your thinking as Id be interested in hearing what your opinions are as well. No matter how right or wrong you might be.
Chardcore709
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Passion That Unites Us All , NF
Joined: 10.03.2006

Nov 21 @ 12:09 AM ET
I'd love to see who made that claim... the reality is a month ago we (Habs fans) were rightfully complaining about the lack of #1C and #2D.
- apex123


What I remember hearing a lot of habs fan say was they had there 1st line centre in drouin and he was going to be the 2nd coming and was going to be a dominate player this year. I like the kid to a degree in that he does have some talent, he did show immaturity in tampa and was never consistent which puts up some red flags. But sometimes those things can fix themselves as players mature. Of course some players cant turn it around and it never changes.

And as for dmen most people were saying alzner was going to be a game changer and a much better choice then markov and mete was the new nhl dman and were expecting unrealistic first line numbers from the kid. Im still not 100% convinced on him but he does show some great offensive glimpes of talent at times and is still young.

If you want go back and read some of the post from the preseason you might surprise youself in what you read. Even brandons article right before the season started talked about how this looked like one of the best offensive lineups montreal as iced to start a season in many years in which every line had scoring depth. You might also enjoy my response to that one, some good reading. Check it out...
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Nov 21 @ 12:29 AM ET
Hey you can give all the examples you want of leafs but I didnt put a list out there of players that can land me blue chip players and high draft picks that included ahl caliber players. You have to expect to get slammed on that and if you read back I wasnt the first. Im sure you can even agree that mitchell and davidson are not bringing you back jack.

I do have to ask you though since my trades were so outlandish what do you think galchenyuk gets you? A young player that is a centre that cant play centre, spends most of the past two years on the wing of the 3rd and 4th line by two different coaches. That has had a knee injury at a young age which is never good. As played with no heart over the past years and has to be one if the worst defensive forwards in the league, he is downright awful. He makes phil kessel look like scott stevens. The only person I could compare him to would maybe be yakupov.

Then what do you think a 5'9, 28 year old byron lands you? On most teams he is a third liner who in his career averages your team about 25 points a year? Most third lines are shut down lines and hes certainly not a shut down player and not talented enough to be top 6.

And I like patches and he's usually a solid player and I said you can land a 1st for him but its most likely a later pick as most teams that would trade for him are going to be top contenders. Would ve silly for a bottom feeding team to give up at a chance at a top 5 pick for a seasoned vet. Maybe you get a low end nhl dman or forward with him or maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick or something if you find the perfect deal.

I love debating and talking hockey and im obviously not a habs supporter and a solid leafs fan. I like giving people the gears a little but I can also take it when people give it back. And habs fans have no issues doing that when things are going good for there team. You can call it trolling if you want but thats the cowardly soar thing to do. I generate discussions and good back and forth banter, maybe thats just me.

I would love for you to tell me what your thinking as Id be interested in hearing what your opinions are as well. No matter how right or wrong you might be.

- Chardcore709


I'm not defending mentioning Alzner, Plekanec, and Davidson in the sentance as blue chip prospects. That said, in a theoretical Plekanec trade with cap retention, I fully expect us to get at min a 2nd rounder for a guy like Plekanec; we as hockey fans have seen idiocy like shipping multiple 2nd round picks for pylons like Douglas Murray at the trade deadline or Hanzal as a comparable. Galchenyuk's value is at it's lowest right now; in pure trade value I consider him worth a second and a 3rd. This would be stupid, however, as there is a far better potential reward than risk with keeping him. Also there is no confusion about what position he plays since this summer, he's a winger and that's that. Byron has been an excellent versatile forward for the over the last two years. I value him more than Shaw and certainly (frank)ing Larry (Lars Eller) who fetched 2 2nds (I got a big laugh out of that). The value you put on Pacioretty is absurd. He's a better scorer and far better defensively than Kessel who fetched far more than "a late first and 7th dman" which is really where you lost all credibility whatsoever; your hatred for the habs isn't indicative of their actual value. Not to mention how good his contract is. As for hockey chirps I'm certainly no saint with that (quite the opposite), but when you suddenly come out of the woodwork with the habs doing bad and the Leafs finally turning it around (after I dont even know many years of mediocrity) talking all of this poop and claiming Pacioretty isn't worth poop it really makes you look like a troll. Also I wouldn't get too excited about your Leafs yet; more likely than not that weak D group is going to show in the playoffs if it doesn't show in a mid season collapse.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Nov 21 @ 1:21 AM ET
What I remember hearing a lot of habs fan say was they had there 1st line centre in drouin and he was going to be the 2nd coming and was going to be a dominate player this year. I like the kid to a degree in that he does have some talent, he did show immaturity in tampa and was never consistent which puts up some red flags. But sometimes those things can fix themselves as players mature. Of course some players cant turn it around and it never changes.

And as for dmen most people were saying alzner was going to be a game changer and a much better choice then markov and mete was the new nhl dman and were expecting unrealistic first line numbers from the kid. Im still not 100% convinced on him but he does show some great offensive glimpes of talent at times and is still young.

If you want go back and read some of the post from the preseason you might surprise youself in what you read. Even brandons article right before the season started talked about how this looked like one of the best offensive lineups montreal as iced to start a season in many years in which every line had scoring depth. You might also enjoy my response to that one, some good reading. Check it out...

- Chardcore709


I think a cautious optimism was more the consensus with Drouin, rather than a he'll be the next Guy Lafleur. Many people, my self included didnt know what to expect from Alzner. Some of the stuff I heard from Capitals fans made me nervous. When I'm actually in an objective mind set and not pissed off about stupid/awful moves Bergevin has done and how's he's constructed the team, I have to admit the team they have right now is decent, other than the fact their goaltending falls of the cliff after Price. Lindgren played well with adrenaline flowing through his veins, but obviously that can't be maintained. If they even had something like a typical year of Corey Crawford in net they could very easily be in a playoff spot. I don't think Brandon's early season optimism was completely absurd if Price wasn't playing like hot garbage; we've come first in the Atlantic with very similar teams before ie last year. And there is no way any Habs fans in their right mind made the assertion going into the season we were a cup favorite.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Nov 21 @ 7:54 AM ET
Good morning, buzzers boys (and girls?)!

By the way, can't this troll be banned once and for all? I can't go on the maple leafs thread and act like he does. Far from that.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:24 AM ET
Hey you can give all the examples you want of leafs but I didnt put a list out there of players that can land me blue chip players and high draft picks that included ahl caliber players. You have to expect to get slammed on that and if you read back I wasnt the first. Im sure you can even agree that mitchell and davidson are not bringing you back jack.

I do have to ask you though since my trades were so outlandish what do you think galchenyuk gets you? A young player that is a centre that cant play centre, spends most of the past two years on the wing of the 3rd and 4th line by two different coaches. That has had a knee injury at a young age which is never good. As played with no heart over the past years and has to be one if the worst defensive forwards in the league, he is downright awful. He makes phil kessel look like scott stevens. The only person I could compare him to would maybe be yakupov.

Then what do you think a 5'9, 28 year old byron lands you? On most teams he is a third liner who in his career averages your team about 25 points a year? Most third lines are shut down lines and hes certainly not a shut down player and not talented enough to be top 6.

And I like patches and he's usually a solid player and I said you can land a 1st for him but its most likely a later pick as most teams that would trade for him are going to be top contenders. Would ve silly for a bottom feeding team to give up at a chance at a top 5 pick for a seasoned vet. Maybe you get a low end nhl dman or forward with him or maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick or something if you find the perfect deal.

I love debating and talking hockey and im obviously not a habs supporter and a solid leafs fan. I like giving people the gears a little but I can also take it when people give it back. And habs fans have no issues doing that when things are going good for there team. You can call it trolling if you want but thats the cowardly soar thing to do. I generate discussions and good back and forth banter, maybe thats just me.

I would love for you to tell me what your thinking as Id be interested in hearing what your opinions are as well. No matter how right or wrong you might be.

- Chardcore709

1. Your
2. There
3. Their
4. They're
5. You're

You can keep telling yourself that your posts aren't trolling. And you can keep telling all of us, that you aren't trolling, and you're just creating discussion and that's the only goal of your posts (and by posts, I mean novels) and that you're a hockey fan who likes to generate debate. But I will tell you, that the next time you come in here with your War and Peace length trolling pieces, I will ban you for a lengthy period. And you can go crying to the powers that be, just like you did the last time, and the same thing will be done about it - NOTHING. Your name is among those that get "special" attention in these parts, and so there's no post that you make, that isn't flagged and reviewed. I know, I know - you're not scared, HB sucks, two-bit operation, the refs are awful here, blah, blah, blah, First Amendment (that's always my favorite on a privately owned site).

This is your final warning.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:25 AM ET
who was behind this ban?
- SeinfeldvNewman

You were.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:26 AM ET
Oh your talking about the team that beat you a few days ago in there first regular season win of the year? Looks like your team helped give them some confidence. Of course if you watched the games you probably saw the leafs get robbed with a goal called back with 3 mins left in the game. Plus lets face it aussie is from there they probably let them have that one out of pity and he laid back most of the night and put it on cruise control.

And I should point out that making a point that the leafs loss to a bad team tonight but yet beat your team 6-0 two days ago does not help your case in any way, just so you know.

- Chardcore709

So the coach of your awesome team was wrong? They lost because of the "terrible" call? The call that happens to almost every team, every single night?

You're just a fan creating discussion.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:26 AM ET
Yeah, that's what I read in their thread...what a bunch of (frank)ing whiny female genitalias...
- BashCH

Damn refs!!!
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:37 AM ET
1. Your
2. There
3. Their
4. They're
5. You're

You can keep telling yourself that your posts aren't trolling. And you can keep telling all of us, that you aren't trolling, and you're just creating discussion and that's the only goal of your posts (and by posts, I mean novels) and that you're a hockey fan who likes to generate debate. But I will tell you, that the next time you come in here with your War and Peace length trolling pieces, I will ban you for a lengthy period. And you can go crying to the powers that be, just like you did the last time, and the same thing will be done about it - NOTHING. Your name is among those that get "special" attention in these parts, and so there's no post that you make, that isn't flagged and reviewed. I know, I know - you're not scared, HB sucks, two-bit operation, the refs are awful here, blah, blah, blah, First Amendment (that's always my favorite on a privately owned site).

This is your final warning.

- hscesq


This is a nice warning but my morning would feel more complete if Adam gives him just a 2 or 3 lines uncensored reply.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:40 AM ET
This is a nice warning but my morning would feel more complete if Adam gives him just a 2 or 3 lines uncensored reply.
- Not_Yan

I do understand. But I can't do those. I had to edit this one several times as it is!
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Nov 21 @ 8:48 AM ET
Damn refs!!!
- hscesq


Should make a new wheel of excuses for the Leafs and just insert "Damn Refs! Ref's fault, It was the Refs!...etc"
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Nov 21 @ 8:49 AM ET
I haven't been entirely honest with all of you.


I'm actually a super hot girl.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:50 AM ET
Should make a new wheel of excuses for the Leafs and just insert "Damn Refs! Ref's fault, It was the Refs!...etc"
- BashCH

If only 3M hadn't joined The Resistance, he would be able to create it.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Nov 21 @ 8:50 AM ET
I do understand. But I can't do those. I had to edit this one several times as it is!
- hscesq


That guy makes Bushkorn and Stee look like Mensa members...
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:50 AM ET
I do understand. But I can't do those. I had to edit this one several times as it is!
- hscesq


The deleted words are still there in spirit.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Nov 21 @ 8:51 AM ET
The deleted words are still there in spirit.
- Not_Yan


Just like dt's optimism
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Nov 21 @ 8:52 AM ET
If only 3M hadn't joined The Resistance, he would be able to create it.
- hscesq

One day you will you understand how he reshaped the world for the better.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Nov 21 @ 8:52 AM ET
I haven't been entirely honest with all of you.


I'm actually a super hot girl.

- dt99999



...
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Nov 21 @ 8:52 AM ET
Just like dt's optimism
- BashCH


it's keeping me alive.
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