We can debate what bowman should ve done like when sharp came off his 32 goal season I believe in 2014 that's when he should ve been traded or at the draft to Dallas for supposedly two 2nd rounders and prospect or signing bickell to the contract when it shoyld ve been a 1 year deal prove it or trading seabrook after the winning in 15th or not screwing up the rfa's paper filing to late that cost the hawks half the team
etc.. To me its very quiet with the hawks in reference to trade rumors and knowing that they need help at d and center, so Justin or anyone else that have sources anything going on as far as things brewing?
- Scott1977

It really would of been nice to have Danault on the 3rd line, of all the trades to me that one stung the most, young, works hard every shift, cost controlled player for 2 guys who didn't contribute in the playoffs

Really curious to see how the boys match up tomorrow? This will be a game where they will have to be disciplined with the puck and position.

I really like how fast they are playing in both directions around the puck, much more of this.

If Kempny sucks to much for Q to play him as a defenseman, can we please see him as a 4th line forward, he's obviously talented, and maybe he needs to go the path of Brett Burns instead of the traditional route.

We can debate what bowman should ve done like when sharp came off his 32 goal season I believe in 2014 that's when he should ve been traded or at the draft to Dallas for supposedly two 2nd rounders and prospect or signing bickell to the contract when it shoyld ve been a 1 year deal prove it or trading seabrook after the winning in 15th or not screwing up the rfa's paper filing to late that cost the hawks half the team
etc.. To me its very quiet with the hawks in reference to trade rumors and knowing that they need help at d and center, so Justin or anyone else that have sources anything going on as far as things brewing?
- Scott1977

I would bet everything I own if I were a gambler that Bowman planned to wait until roughly at least the one quarter mark of season to see what he had on defense. I believe that Bowman expects Murphy to be ok. The reality is, the defense would be better if Samuelson had total call.

I understand that Q has to be driven to grab points so whom does he want as best chance to win each night. It could be very close who grabs the last wild card. If Chicago does not get in, or loses in first round, I think Q is asked to step down keep paycheck and do some scouting.

Then it will be Stan who is on the clock.

Really curious to see how the boys match up tomorrow? This will be a game where they will have to be disciplined with the puck and position.

I really like how fast they are playing in both directions around the puck, much more of this.

If Kempny sucks to much for Q to play him as a defenseman, can we please see him as a 4th line forward, he's obviously talented, and maybe he needs to go the path of Brett Burns instead of the traditional route.
- BetweenTheDots

I would even put him in front of net.
Excellent ideas you provide
Kempny will never get a fair chance, a few stretches of at least 5 gp consecutive because he is trusted least by Q. The forward idea is right up Q alley of strategy.

I would bet everything I own if I were a gambler that Bowman planned to wait until roughly at least the one quarter mark of season to see what he had on defense. I believe that Bowman expects Murphy to be ok. The reality is, the defense would be better if Samuelson had total call.

I understand that Q has to be driven to grab points so whom does he want as best chance to win each night. It could be very close who grabs the last wild card. If Chicago does not get in, or loses in first round, I think Q is asked to step down keep paycheck and do some scouting.

Then it will be Stan who is on the clock.
- jhawk59

I think and just my opinion if there os another first round exit or miss the playoffs both are gone and maybe a rebuild starts

If you want a bump defensively try to pry Julius Honka out of Dallas.

It seems like they don't realize just how good he is. His underlying numbers are tremendous and Dallas seems determined not to play him for some reason.
- BINGO!

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Eventually Honka will be some other team's gain. By chance of injury maybe he gets to play. Tell you what, they are playing a lot of young defensemen and maybe Honka is one too many young guys in lineup at same time. Of course I respect your report of the question whether they like him/his ability for their team

I just harken back to this thought: scouts see a lot of AHL. They know about Honka.

And this btw too: Johns is ok, never going to be really good and is injury prone.

I think and just my opinion if there os another first round exit or miss the playoffs both are gone and maybe a rebuild starts
- Scott1977

You know the Doobie Brothers did a song, "Long Train Running."

The Blackhawks train is near the end of the Metra line and they won't be able to bring any more passengers on board whom could make a difference. Seriously. Maybe it helps them get in playoffs is best case scenario. Hossa won't get new meds and return for playoffs, right?

They need so much to go right to win a playoff series. And their head coach despite some good coaching is also his own worse enemy. Q has to stop the PP non sense all these years. Finally Seabrook is off and Forsling on. I would seriously consider Kempny dress as a utility forward/dman. Rather his shot and athleticism than Keith on pp

Not enough to be recalled.
- DarthKane

Yeah because Patrick Sharp is on pace for 16 points.

Yeah because Patrick Sharp is on pace for 16 points.


- Goalie-33

At some point soon, Sharp either needs to contribute or be in the press box. With young guys like Hinostroza, Highmore or Kampf ready (or seemingly ready) to make the jump, Sharp's leash should be getting shorter.

Yeah because Patrick Sharp is on pace for 16 points.


- Goalie-33

Sharp has hit more posts than times you post on each thread
between him and Saad they could each easily have 5 more
goals each.

The Blues are good.

The Blues are good.
- EnzoD

The oilers are bad.

Completely were masked by overacheiving goaltending from Talbot an a Hart season from McDavid with Maroon and Draisaitl riding his coattails

The oilers are bad.

Completely were masked by overacheiving goaltending from Talbot an a Hart season from McDavid with Maroon and Draisaitl riding his coattails
- Stan_Bowman

They aren't perhaps the fast rising young team they were painted to be after last playoffs, but I would not call them bad. What is not clicking for them now? Well for an opening comment I look at their defensemen and think, not bad, but where is at least one top pair offensive guy? I have doubt Nurse will be a top guy. Where is Sekera- hurt. The defensemen are not bad but K Russell is not your top offensive puck mover. Nugent Hopkins should be used to upgrade the defense position. That being said, why hasn't he been enough to offset the big time attention McDavid receives. It just seems like Edm will step back before they go forward. Maybe Darth Kane can add some analysis.

They aren't perhaps the fast rising young team they were painted to be after last playoffs, but I would not call them bad. What is not clicking for them now? Well for an opening comment I look at their defensemen and think, not bad, but where is at least one top pair offensive guy? I have doubt Nurse will be a top guy. Where is Sekera- hurt. The defensemen are not bad but K Russell is not your top offensive puck mover. Nugent Hopkins should be used to upgrade the defense position. That being said, why hasn't he been enough to offset the big time attention McDavid receives. It just seems like Edm will step back before they go forward. Maybe Darth Kane can add some analysis.
- jhawk59

Their defense is missing two top pairing dmen for starters. Larsson is ideally a no.3 dman and their bottom 6 forward depth is not good either

Their defense is missing two top pairing dmen for starters. Larsson is ideally a no.3 dman and their bottom 6 forward depth is not good either
- Stan_Bowman

In Edm and Chicago top talented forward has to be a force. When they aren't, the team is poop.

It all starts with defense. The defense has to be good enough, not great, but good enough. The forwards and a system can help. But a netminder cannot be great each time out plus playoffs without getting burned out. Better watch that in Edm and Chicago

It looks like Vinny almost has about a point the game down there, I did not know he’s a little bit under 6 foot tall, and almost 2 bills,I thought he was one of these little poops that was about 5 foot 5,150pounds, I have to agree with some that sooner or later he probably should get recalled, also have to agree on Patrick Sharp, and Ryan Hartman better start putting up some more points Also, or he better be looking over his shoulder.

Stephen Johns and Danault both having solid games tonight in the Dallas Montreal game

Can’t help but think Hitch is on the clock in Dallas

Teravinin more points than any Hawk - to this point in the season

Teravinin more points than any Hawk - to this point in the season
- Colbyboy

Over half his points (10 out of 19) in the last 4 games.

Let’s see what his numbers are going forward.

Teravinin more points than any Hawk - to this point in the season
- Colbyboy

So what!!!!!!!!!!

So what!!!!!!!!!!
- powerenforcer

I think he got a bad rep around here ,with JJ leading the way . .He was the Captain of the Finish Jr. team and carried them on his back to the gold . Had a solid playoff in 15 . Wish we could have been a little more patience with him ,and found another way of unloading Bickell .

I think he got a bad rep around here ,with JJ leading the way . .He was the Captain of the Finish Jr. team and carried them on his back to the gold . Had a solid playoff in 15 . Wish we could have been a little more patience with him ,and found another way of unloading Bickell .
- oldduffman

It had nothing to do with patience.

After the cup win in 15, Teravainen asked to go back home to Finland to celebrate. Hawks management wanted him to stay here - where they could monitor his off season workouts. They reluctantly let him go back to Finland, with a specific workout and nutrition schedule - which he mostly ignored. When he came to camp in the fall, they were more than disappointed with him.

After getting knocked out by St. Louis, they again reluctantly let him go back to Finland for the summer, and again gave him a structured workout and nutrition schedule, which he again chose to ignore. They even sent Timonen - who is considered Finnish hockey royalty - in an attempt to get through to him how important is was for his development to come to training camp stronger. The message did not get through.

When he showed up to camp last fall as weak as he did the previous fall, they decided enough was enough. He is a professional athlete - they were paying his salary, and expected him to take his career seriously. He chose to hang out with his friends and play golf instead. That was the WRONG message to send to your bosses.

That's why he was traded. And I can tell you - most teams around the league knew he was not serious about getting stronger for the NHL game, and his trade value plummeted because of this. They were not going to sink any more money into him at that point - he became expendable.

Now let's fast forward to the current roster. I know wonthecup10 thinks Schmaltz did nothing to get stronger over the summer, and pictures were posted, but he DID increase his core strength - and that's measured more importantly than muscle mass by NHL standards. The same can be said for DeBrincat and Forsling. It may not show with a shirt off, but it does play out with the cardio testing they do, and it does show on the ice.

In fact, large increases in upper body muscle mass can be detrimental to a hockey player - especially when speed and agility are the new "it" factor for young players.

It had nothing to do with patience.

After the cup win in 15, Teravainen asked to go back home to Finland to celebrate. Hawks management wanted him to stay here - where they could monitor his off season workouts. They reluctantly let him go back to Finland, with a specific workout and nutrition schedule - which he mostly ignored. When he came to camp in the fall, they were more than disappointed with him.

After getting knocked out by St. Louis, they again reluctantly let him go back to Finland for the summer, and again gave him a structured workout and nutrition schedule, which he again chose to ignore. They even sent Timonen - who is considered Finnish hockey royalty - in an attempt to get through to him how important is was for his development to come to training camp stronger. The message did not get through.

When he showed up to camp last fall as weak as he did the previous fall, they decided enough was enough. He is a professional athlete - they were paying his salary, and expected him to take his career seriously. He chose to hang out with his friends and play golf instead. That was the WRONG message to send to your bosses.

That's why he was traded. And I can tell you - most teams around the league knew he was not serious about getting stronger for the NHL game, and his trade value plummeted because of this. They were not going to sink any more money into him at that point - he became expendable.

Now let's fast forward to the current roster. I know wonthecup10 thinks Schmaltz did nothing to get stronger over the summer, and pictures were posted, but he DID increase his core strength - and that's measured more importantly than muscle mass by NHL standards. The same can be said for DeBrincat and Forsling. It may not show with a shirt off, but it does play out with the cardio testing they do, and it does show on the ice.

In fact, large increases in upper body muscle mass can be detrimental to a hockey player - especially when speed and agility are the new "it" factor for young players.
- dahawks8819

Wrroonnnggg

Stan had to dump Bickells deal & cost us TT

Plain & simple

Funny stuff though

It had nothing to do with patience.

After the cup win in 15, Teravainen asked to go back home to Finland to celebrate. Hawks management wanted him to stay here - where they could monitor his off season workouts. They reluctantly let him go back to Finland, with a specific workout and nutrition schedule - which he mostly ignored. When he came to camp in the fall, they were more than disappointed with him.

After getting knocked out by St. Louis, they again reluctantly let him go back to Finland for the summer, and again gave him a structured workout and nutrition schedule, which he again chose to ignore. They even sent Timonen - who is considered Finnish hockey royalty - in an attempt to get through to him how important is was for his development to come to training camp stronger. The message did not get through.

When he showed up to camp last fall as weak as he did the previous fall, they decided enough was enough. He is a professional athlete - they were paying his salary, and expected him to take his career seriously. He chose to hang out with his friends and play golf instead. That was the WRONG message to send to your bosses.

That's why he was traded. And I can tell you - most teams around the league knew he was not serious about getting stronger for the NHL game, and his trade value plummeted because of this. They were not going to sink any more money into him at that point - he became expendable.

Now let's fast forward to the current roster. I know wonthecup10 thinks Schmaltz did nothing to get stronger over the summer, and pictures were posted, but he DID increase his core strength - and that's measured more importantly than muscle mass by NHL standards. The same can be said for DeBrincat and Forsling. It may not show with a shirt off, but it does play out with the cardio testing they do, and it does show on the ice.

In fact, large increases in upper body muscle mass can be detrimental to a hockey player - especially when speed and agility are the new "it" factor for young players.
- dahawks8819

I could definitely stand to be corrected on Nick schmaltz, that is some interesting stuff about TT, I was a fan of his and would hope he would’ve worked out here, playing center in the National Hockey League is no easy task, and I think moving him to the right wing with Patrick Kane has turned out to be the right thing to do, as he gets experience in the National Hockey League and it comes with time and playing, I’m sure the transition to center will happen. Let’s hope he keeps up his good play and could offset the loss of Artemi Panerin, speaking of that trade, if you look at both parts of it, we gave up Panerin and Motte, and got back Saad, AA, forsberg, and Morin, Who Bowman flipped for Panik, and I think there was a couple of beer league players also in those trades.
No matter what this roster looks like over the past few years it seems like they play to the level of their competition, they have some tough games coming up, and starting with the Ranger game, for the next six or seven games, I see they go 5 and 2.
Lastly, I do not know what the coaches beef is with Kempny, other than the fact of, not enough spaces on the roster and who do you sit? I just feel that if this kid does not play enough, his agent is not going to get him re-signed here in Chicago next season.

It had nothing to do with patience.

After the cup win in 15, Teravainen asked to go back home to Finland to celebrate. Hawks management wanted him to stay here - where they could monitor his off season workouts. They reluctantly let him go back to Finland, with a specific workout and nutrition schedule - which he mostly ignored. When he came to camp in the fall, they were more than disappointed with him.

After getting knocked out by St. Louis, they again reluctantly let him go back to Finland for the summer, and again gave him a structured workout and nutrition schedule, which he again chose to ignore. They even sent Timonen - who is considered Finnish hockey royalty - in an attempt to get through to him how important is was for his development to come to training camp stronger. The message did not get through.

When he showed up to camp last fall as weak as he did the previous fall, they decided enough was enough. He is a professional athlete - they were paying his salary, and expected him to take his career seriously. He chose to hang out with his friends and play golf instead. That was the WRONG message to send to your bosses.

That's why he was traded. And I can tell you - most teams around the league knew he was not serious about getting stronger for the NHL game, and his trade value plummeted because of this. They were not going to sink any more money into him at that point - he became expendable.

Now let's fast forward to the current roster. I know wonthecup10 thinks Schmaltz did nothing to get stronger over the summer, and pictures were posted, but he DID increase his core strength - and that's measured more importantly than muscle mass by NHL standards. The same can be said for DeBrincat and Forsling. It may not show with a shirt off, but it does play out with the cardio testing they do, and it does show on the ice.

In fact, large increases in upper body muscle mass can be detrimental to a hockey player - especially when speed and agility are the new "it" factor for young players.
- dahawks8819

Exactly how I remember it. Might have been nice if Bickel had been diagnosed earlier, but l think TT let himself become expendable due to his habits. Another example of a guy who didn't like working out earlier in his career is Chelios, but he went on to have legendary summer workout routines later in his career. TT has the tools and it seems the scouts were right, just needed someone to put their foot up his ass. Guess he just wasn't ready when he was here.