I could definitely stand to be corrected on Nick schmaltz, that is some interesting stuff about TT, I was a fan of his and would hope he would’ve worked out here, playing center in the National Hockey League is no easy task, and I think moving him to the right wing with Patrick Kane has turned out to be the right thing to do, as he gets experience in the National Hockey League and it comes with time and playing, I’m sure the transition to center will happen. Let’s hope he keeps up his good play and could offset the loss of Artemi Panerin, speaking of that trade, if you look at both parts of it, we gave up Panerin and Motte, and got back Saad, AA, forsberg, and Morin, Who Bowman flipped for Panik, and I think there was a couple of beer league players also in those trades.
No matter what this roster looks like over the past few years it seems like they play to the level of their competition, they have some tough games coming up, and starting with the Ranger game, for the next six or seven games, I see they go 5 and 2.
Lastly, I do not know what the coaches beef is with Kempny, other than the fact of, not enough spaces on the roster and who do you sit? I just feel that if this kid does not play enough, his agent is not going to get him re-signed here in Chicago next season.
- wonthecup10

If they are not going to play him then who gives a poop. I don't think we have seen enough to make a final judgement but maybe they think they have. And maybe it's just a Q/SB pissin match. I agree about him signing here. Really, at this point, why would he bother.

It had nothing to do with patience.

After the cup win in 15, Teravainen asked to go back home to Finland to celebrate. Hawks management wanted him to stay here - where they could monitor his off season workouts. They reluctantly let him go back to Finland, with a specific workout and nutrition schedule - which he mostly ignored. When he came to camp in the fall, they were more than disappointed with him.

After getting knocked out by St. Louis, they again reluctantly let him go back to Finland for the summer, and again gave him a structured workout and nutrition schedule, which he again chose to ignore. They even sent Timonen - who is considered Finnish hockey royalty - in an attempt to get through to him how important is was for his development to come to training camp stronger. The message did not get through.

When he showed up to camp last fall as weak as he did the previous fall, they decided enough was enough. He is a professional athlete - they were paying his salary, and expected him to take his career seriously. He chose to hang out with his friends and play golf instead. That was the WRONG message to send to your bosses.

That's why he was traded. And I can tell you - most teams around the league knew he was not serious about getting stronger for the NHL game, and his trade value plummeted because of this. They were not going to sink any more money into him at that point - he became expendable.

Now let's fast forward to the current roster. I know wonthecup10 thinks Schmaltz did nothing to get stronger over the summer, and pictures were posted, but he DID increase his core strength - and that's measured more importantly than muscle mass by NHL standards. The same can be said for DeBrincat and Forsling. It may not show with a shirt off, but it does play out with the cardio testing they do, and it does show on the ice.

In fact, large increases in upper body muscle mass can be detrimental to a hockey player - especially when speed and agility are the new "it" factor for young players.
- dahawks8819

Unless I’m misreading your message, your timeline doesn’t make much sense.

He was traded on June 15, 2016 - just after the loss to St. Louis, he never came to camp here last fall....

I don’t doubt your reasons for the trade, but your timeline is way off.

It had nothing to do with patience.

After the cup win in 15, Teravainen asked to go back home to Finland to celebrate. Hawks management wanted him to stay here - where they could monitor his off season workouts. They reluctantly let him go back to Finland, with a specific workout and nutrition schedule - which he mostly ignored. When he came to camp in the fall, they were more than disappointed with him.

After getting knocked out by St. Louis, they again reluctantly let him go back to Finland for the summer, and again gave him a structured workout and nutrition schedule, which he again chose to ignore. They even sent Timonen - who is considered Finnish hockey royalty - in an attempt to get through to him how important is was for his development to come to training camp stronger. The message did not get through.

When he showed up to camp last fall as weak as he did the previous fall, they decided enough was enough. He is a professional athlete - they were paying his salary, and expected him to take his career seriously. He chose to hang out with his friends and play golf instead. That was the WRONG message to send to your bosses.

That's why he was traded. And I can tell you - most teams around the league knew he was not serious about getting stronger for the NHL game, and his trade value plummeted because of this. They were not going to sink any more money into him at that point - he became expendable.

Now let's fast forward to the current roster. I know wonthecup10 thinks Schmaltz did nothing to get stronger over the summer, and pictures were posted, but he DID increase his core strength - and that's measured more importantly than muscle mass by NHL standards. The same can be said for DeBrincat and Forsling. It may not show with a shirt off, but it does play out with the cardio testing they do, and it does show on the ice.

In fact, large increases in upper body muscle mass can be detrimental to a hockey player - especially when speed and agility are the new "it" factor for young players.
- dahawks8819

He added working with a pro weightlifter to his offseason training this past summer. He's been our best or second best forward every game so far this year.

Also lol

...just ...just lol