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Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 11/18/17 vs. CGY
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 18 @ 3:57 PM ET
A very true and telling statement.

Gotta say that after the games they put together to start the season this is a disappointing string of ugly games that I was hoping was behind them

- mayorofangrytown


They're digging themselves into a hole and they need to turn it around pretty quickly or making the playoffs will be a difficult task.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Nov 18 @ 3:57 PM ET
Geezus man, you really need to grasp reality. They could lose 8-0 and you find something good to say about this team. They are who they are, and that is not a very good team overall. A coach who plays guys who are hurting this team every game and offer nothing in the way of helping them. A GM who everyone mostly has put up on a pedestal as this GOD who will has become the most amazing leader of building this team. Sure he has drafted well, but you can't say he has become a great GM just thru drafting. Until this team starts progressing, I will reserve judgement on him until he is either canned or we become a stable up and coming consistent winning team.
- Buzzo


Drafting and development takes time and he's been somewhat handcuffed based on salary cap constraints. His only real bad signing has been Weise, but by and large, he's set them on the right path going forward. I'd put more criticism on the shoulders of Hakstol. It's now been 2.5 years, and I have yet to identify a real team identity or style of play that the team can build around.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Nov 18 @ 3:57 PM ET
Don't you know the coach can't do anything. Since these guys are well paid they should be self taught how to not go offsides or take really stupid penalties. Coaching is way overrated and takes no responsibility for losses.
- Konalover


Wow, that is a ridiculous thing to say. Actually that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! You know absolutely nothing about this game so why don't you head back to your mother's basement and play with your puppy. Holy poop
The coach is responsible to put the right guys on the ice at the right time and Hakstol has no clue about this part of the game, actually has no clue about anything. Fact is a good coach wins more games that you think, decisions are required that require some insight into the game and what is happening on the ice. Weise does not belong in the lineup, Lehtera and Simmonds are so slow they belong in old timers league.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 18 @ 3:57 PM ET
Results sucked and I only saw the 3rd period and OT but what I saw was more entertaining than a number of recent Flyers games.
- MJL


Calgary doesn’t play much defense
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 18 @ 3:59 PM ET
Calgary doesn’t play much defense
- Just5


Didn't seem like it and they were extremely loose in the parts of the game I saw.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Nov 18 @ 4:00 PM ET
They're digging themselves into a hole and they need to turn it around pretty quickly or making the playoffs will be a difficult task.
- MJL


They will not make the playoffs ever with Hakstol brain dead decision making and roster mangagement. The guy is the biggest joke in the NHL, followed closely by Hextall and oh by the way Schenn has 14 points in the last six games, 25 on the season. Lucky guy he got away from this Hak and Hex train wreck of a manangement team.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 18 @ 4:00 PM ET
Apathy. (frank) em.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 18 @ 4:00 PM ET
Wow, that is a ridiculous thing to say. Actually that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! You know absolutely nothing about this game so why don't you head back to your mother's basement and play with your puppy. Holy poop
The coach is responsible to put the right guys on the ice at the right time and Hakstol has no clue about this part of the game, actually has no clue about anything. Fact is a good coach wins more games that you think, decisions are required that require some insight into the game and what is happening on the ice. Weise does not belong in the lineup, Lehtera and Simmonds are so slow they belong in old timers league.

- joegreif17


He was offering sarcasm.

Why can't you post without insulting people?
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Nov 18 @ 4:01 PM ET
I know this may be cliche to say about the team in the shootout era, but I dread a tie game because I know the odds are they'll lose in either in OT or the shootout.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Nov 18 @ 4:01 PM ET
Didn't seem like it and they were extremely loose in the parts of the game I saw.
- MJL


Exactly and we could not take advantage of a team that got hammered 8-2 in Detroit. They are not good and we are worse until we get a coach, haha Sorry but I despise him with all my heart.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 18 @ 4:01 PM ET
They will not make the playoffs ever with Hakstol brain dead decision making and roster mangagement. The guy is the biggest joke in the NHL, followed closely by Hextall and oh by the way Schenn has 14 points in the last six games, 25 on the season. Lucky guy he got away from this Hak and Hex train wreck of a manangement team.
- joegreif17



Ever? They've already made the playoffs once under Hakstol. Try making an actual point other than spewing nonsense because you don't like the coach and repeatedly mentioning Schenn.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 18 @ 4:03 PM ET
Exactly and we could not take advantage of a team that got hammered 8-2 in Detroit. They are not good and we are worse until we get a coach, haha Sorry but I despise him with all my heart.
- joegreif17


The Flyers scored 4 goals. That's enough to win. Penalties and the PK were the issue. Did you actually watch the game?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 18 @ 4:03 PM ET
He was offering sarcasm.

Why can't you post without insulting people?

- MJL

Irony.
Exhibit A.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Nov 18 @ 4:04 PM ET
He was offering sarcasm.

Why can't you post without insulting people?

- MJL



He was not being sarcastic, but I guess you would not get it. I am choked with this team and it is not the team's fault. Pretty soon the whole team is going to be overcome with a lack of confidence due to a lack of a coach. Mike Babcock would put the Flyers in the playoffs or at least in contention.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 18 @ 4:04 PM ET
The Flyers scored 4 goals. That's enough to win. Penalties and the PK were the issue. Did you actually watch the game?
- MJL

4 goals scored. Obviously the correct lineup/call up decisions were made.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 18 @ 4:04 PM ET
Irony.
Exhibit A.

- flyer_nutter


There is no irony. I comment on opinions, not people.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 18 @ 4:04 PM ET
Great, Phantoms played last night in an away game. Weal cant play, so Jiri (frank)ing Lehtera is back in the lineup.

Cue all the Hextall and Hakstol female dogfests SMH.

My god its like a crazy homeless man screaming at a street light.

- MBFlyerfan


After this game no excuse. Bring vecchionne up. He’s 24 and lighting it up
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 18 @ 4:05 PM ET
There is no irony. I comment on opinions, not people.
- MJL


I smell something.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 18 @ 4:06 PM ET
He was not being sarcastic, but I guess you would not get it. I am choked with this team and it is not the team's fault. Pretty soon the whole team is going to be overcome with a lack of confidence due to a lack of a coach. Mike Babcock would put the Flyers in the playoffs or at least in contention.
- joegreif17


Yes he was absolutely being sarcastic.

Name me one specific issue in this game that you have an issue with Hakstol's coaching. Make an actual point.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Nov 18 @ 4:06 PM ET
He was not being sarcastic, but I guess you would not get it. I am choked with this team and it is not the team's fault. Pretty soon the whole team is going to be overcome with a lack of confidence due to a lack of a coach. Mike Babcock would put the Flyers in the playoffs or at least in contention.
- joegreif17

joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Nov 18 @ 4:07 PM ET
The Flyers scored 4 goals. That's enough to win. Penalties and the PK were the issue. Did you actually watch the game?
- MJL


I sure as hell did and I was not impressed. The coach does not have the players playing disciplined hockey, real simple. I love Gost but if he had done that in Toronto he would have been sat down by the coach. Why Weise on the pp, why first line vs first line in a home game, why Simmonds who cant skate starting OT, I can go on and on but I am sure this is all over your head MJL
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Nov 18 @ 4:08 PM ET
Yes he was absolutely being sarcastic.

Name me one specific issue in this game that you have an issue with Hakstol's coaching. Make an actual point.

- MJL


Go catch a bullet

Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Nov 18 @ 4:08 PM ET
I sure as hell did and I was not impressed. The coach does not have the players playing disciplined hockey, real simple. I love Gost but if he had done that in Toronto he would have been sat down by the coach. Why Weise on the pp, why first line vs first line in a home game, why Simmonds who cant skate starting OT, I can go on and on but I am sure this is all over your head MJL
- joegreif17

no, he wouldn't.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Nov 18 @ 4:10 PM ET
They will not make the playoffs ever with Hakstol brain dead decision making and roster mangagement. The guy is the biggest joke in the NHL, followed closely by Hextall and oh by the way Schenn has 14 points in the last six games, 25 on the season. Lucky guy he got away from this Hak and Hex train wreck of a manangement team.
- joegreif17


Again, I don't know why you bring Hextall into this...he by all measures (Hockey Writers, Pronman, Bleacher Report) has built a top-5 farm system out of what was a desolate wasteland just a few years. He's been restricted by what he can do due to the cap. As far as Schenn, good for him, but it doesn't change my opinion that trading him at peak value wasn't a smart move getting to first round picks back
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 18 @ 4:10 PM ET
Go catch a bullet
- joegreif17

Shots fired.
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