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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 18 @ 8:27 AM ET
If Tavares doesn’t sign in NYI or Toronto I hope he goes to a Minnesota or some team like that. Play twice a year. No repercussions to not signing him. Until leafs beat him in the final and it hits him.... right in the feels... that the choice was the Leafs all along. And he picked the wrong team and goes on ltir for sadness
- GOLEAFS71

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 18 @ 8:46 AM ET
Leafs need to move on from Gardiner. Liljegren will fill in nicely when he's gone next year. Also keep Komarov for cheap and trade Hyman. Someone will pay a lot for him. Trade JVR for sure
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Seiously, fellas:

Lilybust is not going to be able to replace Gardiner's minutes next year. He's a mid-first pick. Very rare that guys like that are effective d-men in the NHL in their first couple of years.

More likely he will be a flaming train wreck for his first few years - that's kinda the norm for offensive defencemen.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 18 @ 9:00 AM ET
Seiously, fellas:

Lilybust is not going to be able to replace Gardiner's minutes next year. He's a mid-first pick. Very rare that guys like that are effective d-men in the NHL in their first couple of years.

More likely he will be a flaming train wreck for his first few years - that's kinda the norm for offensive defencemen.

- Atomic Wedgie

It's extremely rare for a rookie defense at any pick to replace top 4 mins. They usually get an insane amount of offensive zone starts and are sheltered heavily. We are looking at 3-4 years until he is a top 4 defense
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 18 @ 9:02 AM ET
He's no way near as good as McDavid.

He'll get paid more than McDavid.

Lou's a rookie

- walshyleafsfan

He hates playing for the Leafs

He will want to sign the minimum to get to FA and for the max amount of dollars

But in the end he is a 2nd line center who is going to be on a sophomore slump
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 18 @ 9:31 AM ET
What's the word on Matthews for tonight? I am wondering if he comes back, will the rest of our boys take there foot off the pedal? I have a feeling they will 'let up' mentally upon the saviours return to the line up. I don't want that to happen, especially against les habs... I would like a good trashing tonight...


Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 18 @ 10:01 AM ET
The Canadiens are coming off arguably their worst performance of the season — a 5-4 loss to the lowly Arizona Coyotes — and they may be shorthanded going into this game. Max Pacioretty, Jonathan Drouin and Jordie Benn all missed practice Friday with the flu and coach Claude Julien said he has no idea whether they will be available to face the Leafs. This game ends a six-game homestand for the Canadiens, who are 2-2-1 in that stretch.

If drouin, Ben and Craporetty can't play and Matthews can
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Nov 18 @ 10:32 AM ET
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winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Nov 18 @ 10:35 AM ET
Seiously, fellas:

Lilybust is not going to be able to replace Gardiner's minutes next year. He's a mid-first pick. Very rare that guys like that are effective d-men in the NHL in their first couple of years.

More likely he will be a flaming train wreck for his first few years - that's kinda the norm for offensive defencemen.

- Atomic Wedgie


How rookies play on their respective teams has much to do with the team on which they land. If this was the mid 70's or 80's crappy Leafs- rushing every d-man into the NHL team (example Randy Carlyle in 76-78 was a a bust on a terrible Leaf team then went to the Pens and won a Norris) - then I might be inclined to agree with you. This team is loaded with talent, it makes a difference - Liljegren will be up come playoff time and contributing - just like Marner was last year - contrary to most of the speculation around these parts.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Nov 18 @ 10:50 AM ET
What's the status of him?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Nov 18 @ 10:54 AM ET
What's the status of him?
- weirdoh

Bust
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Nov 18 @ 10:57 AM ET
What's the status of him?
- weirdoh

Gametime
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Nov 18 @ 11:02 AM ET
Bust
- walshyleafsfan



I know that, but I meant tonight.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Nov 18 @ 11:02 AM ET
Gametime
- ClarksonDavid



Bust
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 18 @ 11:06 AM ET
How rookies play on their respective teams has much to do with the team on which they land. If this was the mid 70's or 80's crappy Leafs- rushing every d-man into the NHL team (example Randy Carlyle in 76-78 was a a bust on a terrible Leaf team then went to the Pens and won a Norris) - then I might be inclined to agree with you. This team is loaded with talent, it makes a difference - Liljegren will be up come playoff time and contributing - just like Marner was last year - contrary to most of the speculation around these parts.
- winsix


Extremely unlikely

He will get heavily sheltered like any rookie d man.
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Nov 18 @ 11:22 AM ET
It's extremely rare for a rookie defense at any pick to replace top 4 mins. They usually get an insane amount of offensive zone starts and are sheltered heavily. We are looking at 3-4 years until he is a top 4 defense
- Santo_44

Yep..look at Rielly
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Nov 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
How rookies play on their respective teams has much to do with the team on which they land. If this was the mid 70's or 80's crappy Leafs- rushing every d-man into the NHL team (example Randy Carlyle in 76-78 was a a bust on a terrible Leaf team then went to the Pens and won a Norris) - then I might be inclined to agree with you. This team is loaded with talent, it makes a difference - Liljegren will be up come playoff time and contributing - just like Marner was last year - contrary to most of the speculation around these parts.
- winsix

Maybe! ..but I think Dermott and possibly Rosen might be ahead in development? .but one thing for sure is .if he's not ready? ..he ain't playing!
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Nov 18 @ 11:28 AM ET
Bust
- walshyleafsfan

Busty mcbust! ..should of picked Laine! ..or even better! Pajarvimirgdjv
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Nov 18 @ 12:26 PM ET
If Carlson hit FA I hope the leafs would be licking their chops. He'd be an amazing add.
- Santo_44

Trade for Hjalmarsson, sign Carlson as a ufa and trade gardiner.

rielly carlson
hjalmarsson zaitsev
borgman hainsey
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Nov 18 @ 1:34 PM ET
Trade for Hjalmarsson, sign Carlson as a ufa and trade gardiner.

rielly carlson
hjalmarsson zaitsev
borgman hainsey

- HealthyScratch6

I had such high expectations for Nielson,I thought he would be a lot farther along.Loved his physicality in Lethbridge.You have to be patient with those young defenders though he could still turn into a beauty.Maybe down the road Babcock and the Leafs could help him develop more.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Nov 18 @ 1:39 PM ET
it's been a while since we had a game with some good fights.
tonight might be a good occasion
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Nov 18 @ 1:51 PM ET
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Nov 18 @ 1:53 PM ET

- nbboy

nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Nov 18 @ 2:00 PM ET
[quote=MaximusAurelius]

This is why you have a Martin on the team, there will be times you will need him.

I do agree though that the fourth line would look a lot better with some skill on it.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Nov 18 @ 2:08 PM ET
[quote=MaximusAurelius]

This is why you have a Martin on the team, there will be times you will need him.

I do agree though that the fourth line would look a lot better with some skill on it.

- nbboy


I'd like a 4th line with at least 2 guys that can fight.
Martin has good value for the team; people that don't understand that don't know their hockey.
Next year I could see Leafs' 4th line being

Martin - Moore - Komarov

(Edit: Komarov obviously isn't a figher).
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 18 @ 2:49 PM ET

- MaximusAurelius



the unfortunate thing in that whole affair was the "Turtleneck" came away unscathed... after starting the whole in the first place.
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