All the Leafs have to do is show the P.A. some game tape and they will understand.
- markmark

Savage...and yet he's still the best defender on the Marlies

In all my years of watching hockey I have never seen a defenseman just stand there and wait for a pick moving towards him at a snails pace and then promptly fumbles it and gives it away or fans on passing with great consistency.

I don’t need to mention his name. Frustrating to watch, need to move him out asap.

He'd be fine on our 3rd pair...


- Garnie

He's (frank)ing awful. Like AWFUL

Or the Leafs can trade someone and feel confident they have a viable option for 2 years for cheap.
- Aaron_85

None of the management think Leivo is a serious option. I think they've proved that over the last 26 months or so

I think a really good trade for the Leafs would be

Gardiner, Rasanen, 2018 1st, Pickard, 2018 3rd

For Vatanen

Sincerely,
Ottawa fans

I think a really good trade for the Leafs would be

Gardiner, Rasanen, 2018 1st, Pickard, 2018 3rd

For Vatanen

Sincerely,
Ottawa fans
- Aetherial

they dont pick until the fourth round this draft. brutal. trying to give away our picks now too

In all my years of watching hockey I have never seen a defenseman just stand there and wait for a pick moving towards him at a snails pace and then promptly fumbles it and gives it away or fans on passing with great consistency.

I don’t need to mention his name. Frustrating to watch, need to move him out asap.
- LeafMan

I concur.

Lou would need a little divine intervention for that to happen.

I think a really good trade for the Leafs would be

Gardiner, Rasanen, 2018 1st, Pickard, 2018 3rd

For Vatanen

Sincerely,
Ottawa fans
- Aetherial

that's an oy-vey

Yep Gardiner is Jekyll and Hyde. One shift you think he'll be better than Karlson, the next shift he'll hand the biscuit off like it's Halloween.

they dont pick until the fourth round this draft. brutal. trying to give away our picks now too
- systemtool

Must be going for it this year, will make a big splash at the TDL

Blue Jackets have a bright future. I see this team winning a cup at some point.

just checked out of curiosity. our defense isn't really small as a group.

Andreas Borgman (D) L 6'0"/191lbs
Connor Carrick (D) R 5'11"/195lbs
Jake Gardiner (D) L 6'2"/200lbs
Ron Hainsey (D) L 6'3"/210lbs
Roman Polak (D) R 6'2"/235lbs
Morgan Rielly (D) L 6'1"/215lbs
Nikita Zaitsev (D) R 6'2"/195lbs
- Tumbleweed

weird to think Borgman is the smallest guy out there.

weird to think Borgman is the smallest guy out there.
- Feeling Glucky?

Listed as 215 on last years SHL page.

Might be like 6'8 Marner.

I concur.

Lou would need a little divine intervention for that to happen.
- dmnted

Ya him along with bozak and jvr..with leivo signed I think it's him gone(jvr)..if it is leivo? ..then maybe part of a package to Arizona. .for Hammer

Ya him along with bozak and jvr..with leivo signed I think it's him gone(jvr)..if it is leivo? ..then maybe part of a package to Arizona. .for Hammer
- MR.Hunter

Komarov and JVR are both up for contracts, and the Leafs have plenty of wingers ready to step up, Leivo included. I think they're both going to walk, unless there's a way to trade JVR for a top-4 D.

Komarov and JVR are both up for contracts, and the Leafs have plenty of wingers ready to step up, Leivo included. I think they're both going to walk, unless there's a way to trade JVR for a top-4 D.
- Feeling Glucky?

Leafs should keep cap space for Tavares next summer

Leafs should keep cap space for Tavares next summer
- Symba007

On one hand, I know you're joking.

And I also know we need D more than more forwards.


But can you imagine?

Leafs need to move on from Gardiner. Liljegren will fill in nicely when he's gone next year. Also keep Komarov for cheap and trade Hyman. Someone will pay a lot for him. Trade JVR for sure

On one hand, I know you're joking.

And I also know we need D more than more forwards.


But can you imagine?
- Feeling Glucky?

I don't want to

Leafs need to move on from Gardiner. Liljegren will fill in nicely when he's gone next year. Also keep Komarov for cheap and trade Hyman. Someone will pay a lot for him. Trade JVR for sure
- Arctic_AARDVARK

why would Komagod sign for cheap?

why would Komagod sign for cheap?
- Symba007

He loves Toronto. He's buddies with Naz. Wants to win a cup.

He loves Toronto. He's buddies with Naz. Wants to win a cup.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

and money doesn't matter?

and money doesn't matter?
- Symba007

He'll get paid obvs.

I don't want to
- Symba007

oh, but you have, haven't you?

Don’t insult me. Try 115.
- Steven_Seagull

With two left hands