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77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Nov 17 @ 2:37 PM ET
Not for whether it's a major or minor.

So yes a rule would need to change

- dragonoffrost


There is precedent in the NHL for changing penalty calls based on play review.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 17 @ 2:38 PM ET
new blog
drunkberg
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 17 @ 2:54 PM ET
Not for whether it's a major or minor.

So yes a rule would need to change

- dragonoffrost


Also the timing of it was bad, it appeared that they looked at the jumbtron and heard the crowd then assessed the major. Maybe that wasn't the reality but that's the way it looked on tv.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 17 @ 2:54 PM ET
There is precedent in the NHL for changing penalty calls based on play review.
- 77rams


Based on conference of officials on ice is the rule. Not Video.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Nov 17 @ 3:08 PM ET
Based on conference of officials on ice is the rule. Not Video.
- dragonoffrost


Happened in a game between Toronto and Florida.

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 17 @ 3:09 PM ET


Personally, I don't have a problem with the officials being permitted to look at the reply to assist in determining if the infraction was intentional, then doling out the appropriate sanction.

- 77rams


I have a huge problem with it.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
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Nov 17 @ 3:28 PM ET
Happened in a game between Toronto and Florida.
- 77rams


Go figure
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Nov 17 @ 3:35 PM ET
Go figure
- dragonoffrost


Sums it up about right.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 5:33 PM ET
They have video reply now.
- 77rams


By rule penalties are not reviewable. If the refs or linesman actually used the replay on the jumbotron to make the rule, that was essentially reviewing the call.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 5:39 PM ET
Of course you don't...so say they come up and struggle...that just means he wasn't actually ready?

What if there's an injury and the player gets called up and does well (i.e. ghost) does that mean he actually was ready?

The point is that not every single Phantom is still there because they are developing in a way that they couldn't continue that development at the NHL level. Based on what you are saying is Hextall's philosphy, Ghost magically became ready to play in the NHL as soon as Mark Streit was injured.

What actually happened was that an opportunity presented itself for Ghost to succed on the power play and he showed that his skillset could translate to the NHL once he got the opportunity. Watching Lindblom, the skills are obviously there, and there is a clear opportunity to add skill to the top 9 (especially when Patrick was out)

- YuenglingJagr


Every single Phantom is still there because that's where Hextall wants them to be. That is the point. Who would be blamed is completely irrelevant. If Lindblom's skills were obvious to Hextall he wouldn't have sent him down to the AHL to work on what he thinks he needs to work on. Every player is an individual. Hextall has repeatedly said that he's never seen a player who was hurt by too much AHL time but he has seen plenty who have been hurt by being rushed to the NHL. It's obvious that he just isn't going to do it unless he is forced to or until he thinks a player is ready. Of course he is not infallible in his decision making.
In the pre season it was clear to me that while Lindblom's play away from the puck was solid and NHL caliber, his play with the puck and his offensive assertiveness was not there. That was in pre season action.
The Flyers knew long before Gostisbehere was called up that his puck skills and offensive game was NHL caliber. It's not always about could a player continue his NHL development in the NHL but rather where is the best place for the player to continue his development. What wasn't available before the injury to Streit?
You've missed the boat by a mile. At this point the Flyers would rather Lindblomb get top ice time in the AHL than to get 3rd line ice time, and some games even less in the NHL.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 5:42 PM ET
I don’t know if I believe this. From every little glimpse into behind the scenes of pro sports that I’ve seen they’re as any of us.
- Dkos


This is one of the silliest statements I've read on here.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 18 @ 9:27 AM ET
Suggests as that’s just his opinion or he hears something?
- Buzzo


He and John Boruk just got done a round table discussion on what they think they will do
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