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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 14 @ 4:04 PM ET
Keep him down. He needs to prove himself. I don’t know much but I do know that lehtera is proven. Weise is proven. And Martel is not proven.

And that’s all I need to know

- Just5


Yes, they're proven. As is Michael Leighton. "Proven" does not mean "good" or even "adequate." Nick Schultz was "proven" and is now unemployed 6 months later.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Nov 14 @ 4:07 PM ET
Do the flyers score tonight?
Does a defenseman pot one?
Does Sanheim get his first NHL goal?
Does someone other than the ginger line score?
Does Simmonds wake up?
Do the Flyers keep Zucker off of the scoresheet?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 14 @ 4:08 PM ET


When they're all standing, cooking them. Man, that would fire me up if I was playing in that game. Kind of fires me up now. Love it.

- Giroux_Is_God

and then they lost
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 14 @ 4:09 PM ET
This exactly. And one of the things certain fans dont take in to consideration when talking about call ups and roles.
- MBFlyerfan

You don't think they could've found a spot for him to play with Patrick out?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 14 @ 4:10 PM ET
Do the flyers score tonight?
Does a defenseman pot one?
Does Sanheim get his first NHL goal?
Does someone other than the ginger line score?
Does Simmonds wake up?
Do the Flyers keep Zucker off of the scoresheet?

- Pixote Andolini

yes
yes
no
yes
he will sleepwalk
yes
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 14 @ 4:10 PM ET


When they're all standing, cooking them. Man, that would fire me up if I was playing in that game. Kind of fires me up now. Love it.

- Giroux_Is_God


Such bullpoop they blew the play dead. The puck was in motion, Pronger was just assessing the play and waiting for a safe opportunity to break out. No rules were broken.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 14 @ 4:12 PM ET
Do the flyers score tonight?
Does a defenseman pot one?
Does Sanheim get his first NHL goal?
Does someone other than the ginger line score?
Does Simmonds wake up?
Do the Flyers keep Zucker off of the scoresheet?

- Pixote Andolini


yes
yes
no
yes
no
no
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 14 @ 4:24 PM ET
You don't think they could've found a spot for him to play with Patrick out?
- YuenglingJagr


For martel? I don't see him filling his role. Vecchione would of made sense though
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 14 @ 4:27 PM ET
For martel? I don't see him filling his role. Vecchione would of made sense though
- Tfaehner

I dont mean a direct replacement for Patrick himself, just saying I think there were games they could've fit him in the lineup had the felt like it and it wouldn't be in a "checking" role
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 14 @ 4:31 PM ET
I dont mean a direct replacement for Patrick himself, just saying I think there were games they could've fit him in the lineup had the felt like it and it wouldn't be in a "checking" role
- YuenglingJagr


I do hate that good guy lehtera is being placed in the lineup cause of his contract. He's just not good. Wish they'd buy him out so I'm not subjected to him for another year.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 14 @ 4:34 PM ET
I loved the flyers response especially the bench yelling at the Tampa players
- Tfaehner

image how much better it would have been if they won the game
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 14 @ 4:45 PM ET
I do hate that good guy lehtera is being placed in the lineup cause of his contract. He's just not good. Wish they'd buy him out so I'm not subjected to him for another year.
- Tfaehner

Certainly wouldn't be opposed to it. I am fine with him being the 13th or 14th forward (takes over for Matt Read) as well, but I don't see many places for him in the lineup for the rest of this season and the next
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 14 @ 4:48 PM ET
Certainly wouldn't be opposed to it. I am fine with him being the 13th or 14th forward (takes over for Matt Read) as well, but I don't see many places for him in the lineup for the rest of this season and the next
- YuenglingJagr


If vecchione and lindblom make this team Weise is your 13th man. That's if we don't bring filp back on a lesser deal
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Nov 14 @ 4:53 PM ET
I do hate that good guy lehtera is being placed in the lineup cause of his contract. He's just not good. Wish they'd buy him out so I'm not subjected to him for another year.
- Tfaehner


They are not going to buy him out unless they need cap space, which they don't. Better to have him in the press box or minors where they can use him if they need him and don't carry dead cap space for two years.

I know this doesn't fit the "lets get all the kids in now" movement, but it is the smart hockey move for the team.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 14 @ 4:55 PM ET
Not sure I am feeling good about TK with Lehtera and Filp... we will see though.
- dragonoffrost


There will be no perfect solutions until Nolan Patrick returns. My honest opinion is, just keep the lines the way they were because Konecny, Filppula and Simmonds at minimum, producing or not, are a pretty good second line.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 14 @ 4:56 PM ET
They are not going to buy him out unless they need cap space, which they don't. Better to have him in the press box or minors where they can use him if they need him and don't carry dead cap space for two years.

I know this doesn't fit the "lets get all the kids in now" movement, but it is the smart hockey move for the team.

- jaws1955

The dead cap space won't matter too much because they have plenty of it. The roster spot is more important. He doesn't have a NMC, so they could just waive him if needed. It doesn't hurt to keep him around at all, but buying him out still saves the Flyers money and allows other players to fill roster spots.

I suspect they will keep him around, but I am fine with either move
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Nov 14 @ 5:00 PM ET
If vecchione and lindblom make this team Weise is your 13th man. That's if we don't bring filp back on a lesser deal
- Tfaehner


I hope we don't see Filp back. That was a good trade to unload Streit and get Filp for one year. We needed some steady depth at forward. They signed Veccs before they lucked into Patrick. We have an ass load of centers here, as shown by Weal playing center tonight. I don't want any more extensions for guys over 28 now. Let the kids ease in and lets see what we have. I can see three more rooks playing here before years end, if all works out.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 14 @ 5:03 PM ET
would you like to be 2010 Leighton? we are taking volunteers
- YuenglingJagr


yes, because somebody has to. i will carry that flag.
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Nov 14 @ 5:06 PM ET
The dead cap space won't matter too much because they have plenty of it. The roster spot is more important. He doesn't have a NMC, so they could just waive him if needed. It doesn't hurt to keep him around at all, but buying him out still saves the Flyers money and allows other players to fill roster spots.

I suspect they will keep him around, but I am fine with either move

- YuenglingJagr


If they waive him he goes to LHV, unless someone wants to sit him in their press box in case of emergency. You still get some cap relief but he still has a contract. He may go at the draft or the deadline next year. Don't see much market for trading him though. Too much cap hit. Hexy has not shown much appetite for losing assets for nothing. If it comes to eating salary or keeping him, I think he stays.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 14 @ 5:11 PM ET
yes, because somebody has to. i will carry that flag.
- hammarby31

So noble
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 14 @ 5:12 PM ET
Yes, they're proven. As is Michael Leighton. "Proven" does not mean "good" or even "adequate." Nick Schultz was "proven" and is now unemployed 6 months later.
- jmatchett383


Most people did expect Schultz to keep playing into his forties like Jagr. Ended too soon.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 14 @ 5:13 PM ET
If they waive him he goes to LHV, unless someone wants to sit him in their press box in case of emergency. You still get some cap relief but he still has a contract. He may go at the draft or the deadline next year. Don't see much market for trading him though. Too much cap hit. Hexy has not shown much appetite for losing assets for nothing. If it comes to eating salary or keeping him, I think he stays.
- jaws1955



The only real reason to keep him and Weise ad 13th 14th men is that we don't have a lot of nhl ready talent past vecchione and lindblom. Well until somebody steps up and we debate why they aren't in next year.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Nov 14 @ 5:28 PM ET
yes, because somebody has to. i will carry that flag.
- hammarby31

The hero we deserve
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 14 @ 5:38 PM ET
yes, because somebody has to. i will carry that flag.
- hammarby31

Thank you for your service
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 14 @ 5:40 PM ET
"one hot dog please!"

*vendor throws hot dog*

*looks around*

"where is it?!"

- Streit2ThePoint


This was a great post
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