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Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Nov 13 @ 4:43 PM ET
I said this in July knowing we would be in this position now. You laughed at me if I recall correctly. Well here we are.
- Cptmjl

if he isnt signing, i think he is
bgainesDM
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 4:43 PM ET
Trade will be tough unless Isles allow the team to sign JT. Team like Tampa would have good players to give the Isles. No idea about the Sharks or St. Louis in terms of players?
- ses111


Unless Kucherov is in the deal, not interested. So, you can go ahead and get Tampa out of the equation.

It may take until June 30th, but he will re-sign.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 13 @ 4:44 PM ET
if he isnt signing he needs to tell them so they get something. as it stands now teams wont give you a ton unless hes a rental at deadline or they stand a shot at resigning him
- Upstate_isles


I have no issue if JT is unhappy with how things have gone with the Isles, but I would have a huge issue if he says nothing and just walks away on July 1. That would be a BS move to do. Isles have to trade him to teams that can re-sign him and allow teams to sign him at the time of the trade.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 13 @ 4:44 PM ET
if he isnt signing, i think he is
- Upstate_isles

If we continue playing inconsistently but get the RFP do you think he's staying with us?
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Nov 13 @ 4:46 PM ET
Unless Kucherov is in the deal, not interested. So, you can go ahead and get Tampa out of the equation.

It may take until June 30th, but he will re-sign.

- bgainesDM

idk i think it is the arena cause he wants to know he can buy a home settle down with his fiancee and have a kid and not move in two years. he seems like that kind of guy
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 13 @ 4:46 PM ET
Unless Kucherov is in the deal, not interested. So, you can go ahead and get Tampa out of the equation.

It may take until June 30th, but he will re-sign.

- bgainesDM


I would think Isles would ask for Kucherov. I know I would. I still think JT re-signs, but it's not 100%.
bgainesDM
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 4:47 PM ET
idk i think it is the arena cause he wants to know he can buy a home settle down with his fiancee and have a kid and not move in two years. he seems like that kind of guy
- Upstate_isles


See? Now, that's what we call realism.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 13 @ 4:47 PM ET
C'Mon man any team that's looking to trade for JT is looking to add to what they already have.
- bgainesDM


And what if someone who want's to add him needs to get rid of salary to do it?

Come on thats so myopic when it comes to trading JT. What if Toronto truly wants to add him? They offer Marner to start and who knows.
bgainesDM
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 4:47 PM ET
I would think Isles would ask for Kucherov. I know I would. I still think JT re-signs, but it's not 100%.
- ses111


I don't think Tampa would get rid of somebody that could be better than JT down the road.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 13 @ 4:47 PM ET
I have no issue if JT is unhappy with how things have gone with the Isles, but I would have a huge issue if he says nothing and just walks away on July 1. That would be a BS move to do. Isles have to trade him to teams that can re-sign him and allow teams to sign him at the time of the trade.
- ses111

Well lets be honest. With everything we have to go on at this point he is being an arsehole. "I'm in no rush " "it's a big decision". Givemeafucjingbreak. He knew about his impending FA from the onset. If he walks he's a scummer and Snow is an even bigger idiot for letting it happen and not doing anything about it like getting a big return like he could have in the summer.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Nov 13 @ 4:48 PM ET
If we continue playing inconsistently but get the RFP do you think he's staying with us?
- Cptmjl

yes, i think eberle and barzal show this team is deeper and take some pressure off of him. add a top d man and solidify the net and this team is as good as any. right now they can beat any team in the league they just need a piece or two
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 13 @ 4:48 PM ET
I would think Isles would ask for Kucherov. I know I would. I still think JT re-signs, but it's not 100%.
- ses111

Tampa wouldn't trade kucherov for Tavares right now most likely.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 13 @ 4:48 PM ET
I challenge you to a Nok hockey scrimmage!!!!!!
- Upstate_isles



Fixed* Keep it straight!
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 13 @ 4:49 PM ET
Tampa wouldn't trade kucherov for Tavares right now most likely.
- Cptmjl


I don't think tampa is breaking up their team right now honestly. Looks like its clicking on all cylinders down there right now.
bgainesDM
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 4:49 PM ET
And what if someone who want's to add him needs to get rid of salary to do it?

Come on thats so myopic when it comes to trading JT. What if Toronto truly wants to add him? They offer Marner to start and who knows.

- nyisles7


Have you seen the way Marner's been playing the last 3 weeks. Way too inconsistent for my taste. No thank you. What it took for Minnesota to get Hanzal at the deadline last year as a rental is nothing compared to what the price will be for JT.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Nov 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
Well lets be honest. With everything we have to go on at this point he is being an arsehole. "I'm in no rush " "it's a big decision". Givemeafucjingbreak. He knew about his impending FA from the onset. If he walks he's a scummer and Snow is an even bigger idiot for letting it happen and not doing anything about it like getting a big return like he could have in the summer.
- Cptmjl

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
yes, i think eberle and barzal show this team is deeper and take some pressure off of him. add a top d man and solidify the net and this team is as good as any. right now they can beat any team in the league they just need a piece or two
- Upstate_isles

You didnt read what I said. IF WE CONTINUE TO PLAY INCONSISTENTLY but get the RFP do you think he will resign anyway? Continue to play like crap get it?
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Nov 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
C'Mon man any team that's looking to trade for JT is looking to add to what they already have.
- bgainesDM

They're called prospects. IF JT were to be traded, my guess would be a couple top prospects, several draft picks and an established roster player. You have to give to get. Nobody is going to trade a top player in the league for a handful of draft picks spread over 2-4 years. Look what blowjob Sakic got for Duch. To me, JT is a better player than Duch. Of course, time becomes a factor. If Snow is looking at the trade deadline to trade him, the bounty might be slightly less than expected. Personally, I think he plays out the season and leaves via free agency. That would be Garth. Lose the best player he ever drafted for nothing.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 13 @ 4:51 PM ET
Tampa wouldn't trade kucherov for Tavares right now most likely.
- Cptmjl


I'm a huge fan of Kucherov and especially with his playoff track record. I'm not sure of a deal with Johnson and others does anything? I know Johnson is not on JT's level.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Nov 13 @ 4:52 PM ET
You didnt read what I said. IF WE CONTINUE TO PLAY INCONSISTENTLY but get the RFP do you think he will resign anyway? Continue to play like crap get it?
- Cptmjl

actually dalas game aside they have played consistently and out worked the other team halak just blows (games)
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 13 @ 4:52 PM ET
I don't think tampa is breaking up their team right now honestly. Looks like its clicking on all cylinders down there right now.
- nyisles7

I think Yzerman would move mountains to add JT. Initially wgem you look at it you say its most ljkely not going to happen but whem a gm wants a player like tavares they make it happen. We've all seen this before
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 13 @ 4:53 PM ET
yes, i think eberle and barzal show this team is deeper and take some pressure off of him. add a top d man and solidify the net and this team is as good as any. right now they can beat any team in the league they just need a piece or two
- Upstate_isles


I think a guy like Barzal is a huge help along with Eberle and hopefully Beau and Ho Sang. Pulock and some of the young D could help as well. Goalie will need to be settled.
bgainesDM
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 4:54 PM ET
They're called prospects. IF JT were to be traded, my guess would be a couple top prospects, several draft picks and an established roster player. You have to give to get. Nobody is going to trade a top player in the league for a handful of draft picks spread over 2-4 years. Look what blowjob Sakic got for Duch. To me, JT is a better player than Duch. Of course, time becomes a factor. If Snow is looking at the trade deadline to trade him, the bounty might be slightly less than expected. Personally, I think he plays out the season and leaves via free agency. That would be Garth. Lose the best player he ever drafted for nothing.
- Isleshockeyman




You gotta be kidding me. Regardless if it's Garth or any other GM, no GM will let him walk for nothing if the Isles are guaranteed to stay in NY. Unless they're dead buried in February, he will not ask for a trade nor leave.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 13 @ 4:54 PM ET
They're called prospects. IF JT were to be traded, my guess would be a couple top prospects, several draft picks and an established roster player. You have to give to get. Nobody is going to trade a top player in the league for a handful of draft picks spread over 2-4 years. Look what blowjob Sakic got for Duch. To me, JT is a better player than Duch. Of course, time becomes a factor. If Snow is looking at the trade deadline to trade him, the bounty might be slightly less than expected. Personally, I think he plays out the season and leaves via free agency. That would be Garth. Lose the best player he ever drafted for nothing.
- Isleshockeyman

Well that's Snow's MO isn't it? He pretty much never gets a return on players that are leaving via free agency. Hence why I said trade him in July or we're (frank)ed. Well we're most likely (frank)ed.
bgainesDM
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 4:54 PM ET
actually dalas game aside they have played consistently and out worked the other team halak just blows (games)
- Upstate_isles


And this time they only have 2 goalies.
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