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KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 11 @ 11:45 AM ET
Letang and Crosby are two worst +/- in the league at -16 and -14 hahahhahahahahahahahahh
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Nov 11 @ 11:52 AM ET
Although maybe not a popular sentiment, but I would switch Raffl with Martel.
- Konalover


Martel likely would be a poor fit to play Raffl's role. He'd either replace (or sub) for Weal or Konecny. That would be his role if he plays in the NHL: he has to be put in situations where you are looking to produce offense.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Nov 11 @ 11:52 AM ET
Letang and Crosby are two worst +/- in the league at -16 and -14 hahahhahahahahahahahahh
- KINGKENZO

Aren't those the same (frank)ers that won the last 2 cups...?
I would happily see G and Provy at minus 100 following two Cups.






Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 11 @ 11:52 AM ET
Raffl is not quite lighting the scoresheet, he has the same amount of points as Matt Read in 12 more games....0
- Konalover



I wonder if leier Laughton weal might be able to jump start weal
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 11 @ 11:55 AM ET
Aren't those the same (frank)ers that won the last 2 cups...?
I would happily see G and Provy at minus 100 following two Cups.

- Konalover

yeah, those two cups are keeping the puck out of the net this year
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Nov 11 @ 11:59 AM ET
Martel likely would be a poor fit to play Raffl's role. He'd either replace (or sub) for Weal or Konecny. That would be his role if he plays in the NHL: he has to be put in situations where you are looking to produce offense.
- bmeltzer

I totally understand your logic about Martel.
I think I'm being a bit glib about Raffl due to his lack of any offense.
I would just like to see Raffl as guy that last year made a few sweet power moves for goals. I'd even take a shin pad goal or 2 from Raffl.





Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Nov 11 @ 12:07 PM ET
yeah, those two cups are keeping the puck out of the net this year
- KINGKENZO

Absolutely, every goal scored against them takes a little chunk from each of those Cups.
While we continue to hope and pray and pray and pray for at least another shot to play for a Cup 2010 or win a cup so long ago I have to take my shoes off to do the math.
I hope we have guys all our team +40 and again sadly we won't be playing for a Cup.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 11 @ 12:34 PM ET
Absolutely, every goal scored against them takes a little chunk from each of those Cups.
While we continue to hope and pray and pray and pray for at least another shot to play for a Cup 2010 or win a cup so long ago I have to take my shoes off to do the math.
I hope we have guys all our team +40 and again sadly we won't be playing for a Cup.

- Konalover


Flyers may have a decent shot in a few years, if one of the goalie prospects turns out well and the D develops as expected.

Need some more star power up front, wont win with a bunch of average-ish 200 foot guys. Need another young upper tier guy other than (hopefully) Patrick.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 11 @ 12:44 PM ET
Flyers may have a decent shot in a few years, if one of the goalie prospects turns out well and the D develops as expected.

Need some more star power up front, wont win with a bunch of average-ish 200 foot guys. Need another young upper tier guy other than (hopefully) Patrick.

- flyer_nutter


Tra la la trade up in this year's draft ? 😂
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 11 @ 12:48 PM ET
Tra la la trade up in this year's draft ? 😂
- Tfaehner


I’m down. Again, need more star power up front. Once G and V are geriatrics who makes up the talent of the forward core?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 11 @ 12:49 PM ET
With Patrick out, I'd think about tweaking the lines a bit. Yeah, I know coaches rarely make changes after wins, but they are really a one line team right now. Sure the 4th line generates chances, but the line lacks a good finisher to take advantage of them. With that in mind, I'd try:

The usual top line

TK-Filppula-Weal
TK was really driving play last game and Weal is always strong on the puck and has good skills. Perhaps putting them together gives the Flyers another line that can generate some offense at ES

Leier-Laughton-Simmonds
Leier and Laughton have been relentless on the forecheck and maybe Simmonds can crash the net and give them someone to finish.

Raffl-Lehtera-Weise
I'd rather have a decent possession player with size like Raffl with these 2 than a speedy skill guy like Weal. Hopefully this line will at least hold its own in the 8-10 minutes it's out there.

- BiggE


I'd roll with that to try to get the other lines going
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 11 @ 12:51 PM ET
I'd roll with that to try to get the other lines going
- nastyflyergirl


I’d simply add in Colin Mac and that kid with the hot streak down in the A to the 4th line. I don’t buy that he needs a top 9 only role to make it.

Lehtera and Weise shouldn’t see the ice at all.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 11 @ 12:52 PM ET
I like it except I would switch Raffl and Leier.
- MJL



be fun watching Leier shot out of a cannon and lapping Lehtera and Weiss
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 11 @ 12:53 PM ET
Letang and Crosby are two worst +/- in the league at -16 and -14 hahahhahahahahahahahahh
- KINGKENZO



I remember thinking Crosby looked cooked at the beginning of last year (or was it the season before)....look how that ended up.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 11 @ 12:54 PM ET
Konec-Fil-Simmonds
Raffl-Laughton-Weal
Martel-Mac-Leier
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 11 @ 12:55 PM ET
I wonder if leier Laughton weal might be able to jump start weal
- Tfaehner



be a really undersized line
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 11 @ 1:09 PM ET
I’m down. Again, need more star power up front. Once G and V are geriatrics who makes up the talent of the forward core?
- flyer_nutter


Couturier
Konecny
Patrick
Lindholm
Voroybiev
Frost
Allison
Ratcliffe.

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 11 @ 1:11 PM ET
Couturier
Konecny
Patrick
Lindholm
Voroybiev
Frost
Allison
Ratcliffe.

- MJL


I dunno man, it’s possible one of them becomes one but I think you need that ever elusive star quality you know? Doesn’t have to be McDavid but you know what I mean.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 11 @ 1:16 PM ET
I dunno man, it’s possible one of them becomes one but I think you need that ever elusive star quality you know? Doesn’t have to be McDavid but you know what I mean.
- flyer_nutter

Rubtsov has the wheels and skills to possibly be that guy, Frost has potential too.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 11 @ 1:20 PM ET
be fun watching Leier shot out of a cannon and lapping Lehtera and Weiss
- nastyflyergirl


Weiss is not slow. Need to have balance on a line.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 11 @ 1:23 PM ET
I dunno man, it’s possible one of them becomes one but I think you need that ever elusive star quality you know? Doesn’t have to be McDavid but you know what I mean.
- flyer_nutter


The question you asked is "who makes up the talent of the forward core?". I know you think everything is doom and gloom with the Flyers.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
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Nov 11 @ 1:24 PM ET
Weiss is not slow. Need to have balance on a line.
- MJL



No he isn't slow but he isn't quick either.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
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Nov 11 @ 1:25 PM ET
The question you asked is "who makes up the talent of the forward core?". I know you think everything is doom and gloom with the Flyers.
- MJL



Dear lord.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
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Nov 11 @ 1:27 PM ET
Rubtsov has the wheels and skills to possibly be that guy, Frost has potential too.
- BiggE


I do like that a lot of these guys have speed. Thats an area they needed to improve on for a long time.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 11 @ 1:28 PM ET
No he isn't slow but he isn't quick either.
- nastyflyergirl


He's a plus skater and certainly skates well enough to play on a 4th line in the NHL.
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