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Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Nov 10 @ 7:58 PM ET
ESPN has BOB listed under the likely, maybe hall of Famer status 🤔

http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...layers-future-hall-famers

- funmaster18



ESPN started acknowledging hockey again?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 10 @ 8:02 PM ET
it's a wedge between wyoming and nevada.
- hammarby31

*INHALES*

gahd I admire you
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 10 @ 8:04 PM ET
Pelle.
- hammarby31

Today unfortunately is the day.

I guess I paid my dues with doc.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 10 @ 8:05 PM ET
ESPN started acknowledging hockey again?
- Doc_Sarcasm


They’re trying, I guess
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 10 @ 8:09 PM ET
ESPN has BOB listed under the likely, maybe hall of Famer status 🤔

http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...layers-future-hall-famers

- funmaster18

...trying is right
scorachek
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mount Joy, PA
Joined: 12.22.2013

Nov 10 @ 8:12 PM ET
Brandon Manning is alright in my book. http://www.philly.com/phi...er-at-heart-20171110.html
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 10 @ 8:13 PM ET
...trying is right
- Giroux_Is_God


I read ESPN like I read most main stream news sites. Look for topics that seem to be a story then go read about it somewhere else
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 10 @ 8:16 PM ET
I read ESPN like I read most main stream news sites. Look for topics that seem to be a story then go read about it somewhere else
- funmaster18



that's actually rock solid
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Nov 10 @ 8:17 PM ET
I read ESPN like I read most main stream news sites. Look for topics that seem to be a story then go read about it somewhere else
- funmaster18


All joking aside, I saw where they pilfered Whyshynski from PuckDaddy awhile back.

That was kind of a head scratcher. Like.. you fired basically everyone not named barry melrose from your hockey dept. and now you're deciding maybe that was a mistake?

EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Nov 10 @ 8:25 PM ET
You need to do a lot more research on the Flyers prospects. The Flyers also have 10 picks in the next draft including 2 first round picks.


https://thehockeywriters....arm-systems-2017-ranking/


http://bleacherreport.com...ools-after-the-2017-draft

http://www.nbcsports.com/...yers-farm-system-no-1-nhl

- MJL


Most of the prospects enlisted in those articles are either Defenders, LW, or C. Only RW mentioned is Wade Allison and it seems like he needs to take quite some strides in development before he even sees any time if the NHL.

I may be wrong, but this seems to be the case at hand, so it seems that my initial comment of a lack of solid/stellar RW prospect depth (whether we state it as elite or many) still stands if we are looking at prospects alone, and that you guys have the one of the best defensive (defenders) prospect depth in the entire league. I do apologize for stating offensive as a generic term in the first phrase, I could see why you would have an avenue of misinterpretation with that regard.

However, I didn't know that you guys had that many picks. Damn.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 10 @ 8:27 PM ET
Yes, it's deep, and yes, it's deep for defense. I will say that doesn't preclude trading up, especially with the assets the Flyers have and a pool that might need quality over quantity given 50-contract limit/only so many AHL spots/etc. Flyers pretty much only draft CHL kids too up high, which often starts the clock sooner. If you target a player or two, go for a trade up, always. A deep draft based on consensus doesn't mean you don't have favorites. It's a very good draft to have 2 1sts though, but trading up with one several spots (not 10) sounds good depending.

But I don't believe you've actually seen Zadina. You're lying to me, to all of us, and it hurts bad. So bad. For real doe: given he seems like a top 5 pick right now, I don't think it's too realistic. I haven't seen much of him myself yet though, so I'll get better acquainted at some point to determine where I stand on him exactly.

- Mononoke



This, all of this. Except I don't know who the heck these guys are. I usually don't research players until I know the range of where we're picking. But the point about were starting to get to a quality over quantity point in our organization has been my point nobody wanted to acknowledge for the last month.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 10 @ 8:30 PM ET
Just a question. Say we hadn't traded Ebs for Strome.

Would Ebs + 2nd be enticing enough for Simmonds?
You guys might argue for a 1st but this upcoming draft is looking to be a deep one.

You guys need some solid prospect depth, especially down the right side. The pick could land you a good RW prospect.

Plus Ebs is 3 years younger and he has more offensive prowess than Simmonds.

- EdmHockeyMan



Makes zero sense. On both teams. You spent all that money on lucic to play that type of role Simmonds does here. Ebs is more expensive and a worse player. Simmonds is also the heart of this team on most nights. So no. Just no.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 10 @ 8:32 PM ET
Most of the prospects enlisted in those articles are either Defenders, LW, or C. Only RW mentioned is Wade Allison and it seems like he needs to take quite some strides in development before he even sees any time if the NHL.

I may be wrong, but this seems to be the case at hand, so it seems that my initial comment of a lack of solid/stellar RW prospect depth (whether we state it as elite or many) still stands if we are looking at prospects alone, and that you guys have the one of the best defensive (defenders) prospect depth in the entire league. I do apologize for stating offensive as a generic term in the first phrase, I could see why you would have an avenue of misinterpretation with that regard.

However, I didn't know that you guys had that many picks. Damn.

- EdmHockeyMan


You do also realize we have several players playing their off wing because of our lack of organizational left wings. Lindblom might be our first true blue left wing we've had in years.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Nov 10 @ 8:34 PM ET
You do also realize we have several players playing their off wing because of our lack of organizational left wings. Lindblom might be our first true blue left wing we've had in years.
- Tfaehner


I didn't know that. But I do now.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Nov 10 @ 8:36 PM ET
Makes zero sense. On both teams. You spent all that money on lucic to play that type of role Simmonds does here. Ebs is more expensive and a worse player. Simmonds is also the heart of this team on most nights. So no. Just no.
- Tfaehner


Take Lucic then.

Regardless, I guess it would seem to be no deal, which I understand based upon your point of view on Simmonds. Just a beast of a player. Type of guy you hate to play against but would absolutely love to have on your team. Hard to give that away unless it's for a big overpayment.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 10 @ 8:44 PM ET
Take Lucic then.

Regardless, I guess it would seem to be no deal, which I understand based upon your point of view on Simmonds. Just a beast of a player. Type of guy you hate to play against but would absolutely love to have on your team. Hard to give that away unless it's for a big overpayment.

- EdmHockeyMan


Not only that but on one of the league's best contracts.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Nov 10 @ 8:47 PM ET
I have watched Zadina once but I like him a lot. He does have 30 points in 20 games for the Mooseheads. 16 goals 14 assists.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 10 @ 8:53 PM ET
I have watched Zadina once but I like him a lot. He does have 30 points in 20 games for the Mooseheads. 16 goals 14 assists.
- Mordecai



Just watched a few highlights kid looks really good. But than saw the furthest any analyst has him being taken is 7th overall. Unless we get some lottery luck again don't see that happening. We do have half the Czech national team already so he would probably feel right at home.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Nov 10 @ 8:59 PM ET
Not only that but on one of the league's best contracts.
- Tfaehner


Yeah. That too.

Quit making me feel so jealous!
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 10 @ 9:09 PM ET
ESPN has BOB listed under the likely, maybe hall of Famer status 🤔

http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...layers-future-hall-famers

- funmaster18

18 14 3 10 -- -- 487 55 3.63 432 .887 0 910

has 1 more playoff win than Vezina
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM ET
I have watched Zadina once but I like him a lot. He does have 30 points in 20 games for the Mooseheads. 16 goals 14 assists.
- Mordecai


Forgive me, my child.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Nov 10 @ 9:24 PM ET
Forgive me, my child.
- Mononoke

I love you deeply
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Nov 10 @ 9:26 PM ET
Just watched a few highlights kid looks really good. But than saw the furthest any analyst has him being taken is 7th overall. Unless we get some lottery luck again don't see that happening. We do have half the Czech national team already so he would probably feel right at home.
- Tfaehner

Simmonds could net a high pick in a trade. Zadina is listed as a LW tho. If we're trading Simmonds I would definitely prefer a natural RW coming back
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 10 @ 9:29 PM ET
Brandon Manning is alright in my book. http://www.philly.com/phi...er-at-heart-20171110.html
- scorachek


Agreed.

I'm not sure if he fits in the top 6 on this team going forward, but it's obvious that he plays with a lot of heart.

poop, it's obvious Hakstol and the organization likes the ManDog. I thought it was cool that Manning was trying to raise money for burn victims, given his background.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 10 @ 9:30 PM ET
I love you deeply
- Mordecai


I love you both, but you two need to get a room.

/no judgement from me
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