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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 8 @ 11:22 PM ET
There’s no such thing
Once u sign a contract, u lose your NCAA eligibility

So the choice is then, NHL or Minors

Teams absolutely DO NOT guarantee a kid that just finished his Freshman year a roster spot

We all knew he’d make the team,
but even Jack didn’t get the “guarantee”

And Casey Mittelstadt is NOT on Jack’s level

Ps.
You’re also nuts to predict 80pts for him this year when Jack only got 71pts as a freshman
And Gudreau as a Junior is a poor counter to that

- jdfitz77


I understand if you sign a contract you can't go back to the college level but they're not going to sign the contract if they're not going to be on the NHL roster.

And if the NHL team lies to that player it builds a bad relationship and it may never be repaired
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 8 @ 11:23 PM ET
What’s that have to do with anything?
I never said trade Pommer


- jdfitz77

sorry, I will stop posting what I hear
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 8 @ 11:24 PM ET
Yes, since what Jack did hadn't been done in 20 years. You're saying not only is he going to do that, but surpass it.
- Wetbandit1

Just because he gets 80 points does that mean he's going to be better than Jack eichel lol let's get that straight
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 8 @ 11:25 PM ET
I was still fine with the pick
Defensive Centers are an important part to a winning team
Girgensons could still be that guy imo
At the time,
I was saying if trade him for O’Reilly
This was right after Girgensons was drafted

My problem wasn’t that Girgs was gonna be a bad player, just that O’Reilly would’ve been an upgrade

Many on here ripped me for saying it would be ok to trade our future Captain

- jdfitz77

problem is as long as pommer and okposo are on the team, skunk will be third line center

pommers play and chemistry with jack clinched top 6 minutes
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 8 @ 11:25 PM ET
Just because he gets 80 points does that mean he's going to be better than Jack eichel lol let's get that straight
- GERBE!!!75PTS

e. kane has more points than p. kane this season
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 8 @ 11:26 PM ET
my guess is he never expected guhle to play over mccabe or scandella this year

24 minutes in rochester is better than 12 in the nhl

- homiedclown



I agree
But you couldn’t u say the same thing about Mittelstadt playing on the top line in Rochester vs playing 3rd line minutes here?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 8 @ 11:28 PM ET
I agree
But you couldn’t u say the same thing about Mittelstadt playing on the top line in Rochester vs playing 3rd line minutes here?

- jdfitz77

no, if the kid makes the sabres, he is a fixture on the top 9

one reason why bailey and baptiste were sent down
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 8 @ 11:29 PM ET
e. kane has more points than p. kane this season
- homiedclown


So lol everyone on this board would trade Kane for kane right now

Hopefully we get a first round pick and a b Prospect

Maybe the the knights will give us glass and a first for him lol
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 8 @ 11:29 PM ET
I understand if you sign a contract you can't go back to the college level but they're not going to sign the contract if they're not going to be on the NHL roster.

And if the NHL team lies to that player it builds a bad relationship and it may never be repaired

- GERBE!!!75PTS


So then u think NHL teams guarantee these kids coming out of College a roster spot?
That only happens at the end of a season when they sign UFAs to burn a year of their ELC

Jack even said he wasn’t given a guarantee...
so what makes u think Mittelstadt will be given one?

What they’ll tell him, is that “he will have every chance to make the roster”

Which translates to...
“You’re gonna gonto the AHL to develop, unless you WOW us”
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 8 @ 11:32 PM ET
So then u think NHL teams guarantee these kids coming out of College a roster spot?
That only happens at the end of a season when they sign UFAs to burn a year of their ELC

Jack even said he wasn’t given a guarantee...
so what makes u think Mittelstadt will be given one?

What they’ll tell him, is that “he will have every chance to make the roster”

Which translates to...
“You’re gonna gonto the AHL to develop, unless you WOW us”

- jdfitz77


I don't believe that special players gets special treatment

Jack was just saying that come on Fitz did you actually believe that ?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 8 @ 11:32 PM ET
sorry, I will stop posting what I hear
- homiedclown



I didn’t dispute what u heard

I asked how Pommer being untouchable had anything to do with me thinking Middlestdt could take his place in TWO years?

Makes total sense they’d wanna keep him on Jack’s wing for now
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 8 @ 11:33 PM ET
I don't believe that special players gets special treatment

Jack was just saying that come on Fitz did you actually believe that ?

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Maybe he was...
but again, Mittelstadt is NOT in Jack’s Class
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 8 @ 11:33 PM ET
Just because he gets 80 points does that mean he's going to be better than Jack eichel lol let's get that straight
- GERBE!!!75PTS


He won't but if he did I'd have to seriously consider it. I don't think you realize just how special what Jack did was.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 8 @ 11:34 PM ET
So then u think NHL teams guarantee these kids coming out of College a roster spot?
That only happens at the end of a season when they sign UFAs to burn a year of their ELC

Jack even said he wasn’t given a guarantee...
so what makes u think Mittelstadt will be given one?

What they’ll tell him, is that “he will have every chance to make the roster”

Which translates to...
“You’re gonna gonto the AHL to develop, unless you WOW us”

- jdfitz77


He's going to score 80 points, so obviously he'll be able to dictate terms.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 8 @ 11:35 PM ET
problem is as long as pommer and okposo are on the team, skunk will be third line center

pommers play and chemistry with jack clinched top 6 minutes

- homiedclown


I don’t think Sam at 3C is necessarily a problem
They just need to play him with some wingers who’ve got talent
Griffith should be in the AHL

Even if it’s just Bailey & Baptiste...
give him some damn help!
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Nov 8 @ 11:36 PM ET
Just because he gets 80 points does that mean he's going to be better than Jack eichel lol let's get that straight
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Last time I checked an 80 point player was better than a 71 point player... mittlestadt is not getting 80 points....
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 8 @ 11:36 PM ET
He's going to score 80 points, so obviously he'll be able to dictate terms.
- Wetbandit1


Well played
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 8 @ 11:37 PM ET
Maybe he was...
but again, Mittelstadt is NOT in Jack’s Class

- jdfitz77


Hes not in class but he's in the class of the Keller's and Johnny hockey and they decided what they wanted

He could easily have the best season ever and if the Sabres don't give him what he wants will just stay another year

College players have all the power if they are good
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Nov 8 @ 11:38 PM ET
I don’t think Sam at 3C is necessarily a problem
They just need to play him with some wingers who’ve got talent
Griffith should be in the AHL

Even if it’s just Bailey & Baptiste...
give him some damn help!

- jdfitz77



Sam actually looked pretty good last game.... I agree get him bailey and baptiste / e-rod and see what happens....
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 8 @ 11:39 PM ET
Hes not in class but he's in the class of the Keller's and Johnny hockey and they decided what they wanted

He could easily have the best season ever and if the Sabres don't give him what he wants will just stay another year

College players have all the power if they are good

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Yes and those guys only scored in the low 40's in their freshman seasons.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 8 @ 11:39 PM ET
Last time I checked an 80 point player was better than a 71 point player... mittlestadt is not getting 80 points....
- gordong


So does that mean Johnny hockey is better than Jack

Cool story bro

Hell maybe we should put Boeser up in Jack's class only 10 pts less
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 8 @ 11:40 PM ET
Yes and those guys only scored in the low 40's in their freshman seasons.
- Wetbandit1

Can't wait till you eat crow
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 8 @ 11:42 PM ET
Hes not in class but he's in the class of the Keller's and Johnny hockey and they decided what they wanted

He could easily have the best season ever and if the Sabres don't give him what he wants will just stay another year

College players have all the power if they are good

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Power to do what though?
U really think Mittelstadt would stay in college for THREE more years and not start getting paid just bc the Sabres night think it’s best for him to go to the AHL for a year?

Very doubtful imo

College players only have the power if they’re willing to stay for all 4yrs & become free agents
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Nov 8 @ 11:45 PM ET
So does that mean Johnny hockey is better than Jack

Cool story bro

Hell maybe we should put Boeser up in Jack's class only 10 pts less

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Yeah he’s better.... (sarcasm) how many point did he have his rookie year in collage answer 44 Jesus you have the dumbest arguments

How is 44 better than 71?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 8 @ 11:45 PM ET
Power to do what though?
U really think Mittelstadt would stay in college for THREE more years and not start getting paid just bc the Sabres night think it’s best for him to go to the AHL for a year?

Very doubtful imo

College players only have the power if they’re willing to stay for all 4yrs & become free agents

- jdfitz77


Just remember he can use a loophole just like stupid cal did

College players have all the power do you think NHL teams want to (frank) around and wait for them ?
Especially high draft choices


I'm not saying this is going to happen to very doubtful that he's going to put up an act like that but if he progresses like he is this year it's likely NHL for him
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