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OnTheFly
Joined: 02.03.2010

Nov 5 @ 8:58 PM ET
Avalanche with all these prospects, picks AND now more cap space...it will be an interesting summer for them. Colorado fans should be excited. Predators are the big winner here because they really improved the team big time and not giving up prime dmen. BUT they end up with Turris and not the best player aka Matt Duchene. As for Ottawa, I believe you gave way too much for a slightly upgraded lateral move in my opinion. I don't really understand this move.
1993_Cup_Champs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Heart of Mid-western Ontario
Joined: 07.17.2006

Nov 5 @ 9:02 PM ET
coming from someone that is always trolling in the Sens thread has no value! lol
Bowers is a late 1st pick being 28th overall in a weak draft... he's exactly what i said, a nobody at THIS time...not a Chabot, Hanifin or any other big prospect that were rumored to go for Duchene...Hammond IS trash... A third isn't worth much...a 1st is good, especially in this draft but hoping to be another late 1st...had to give something else instead of Chabot, White or Brown...
I like Turris but if they couldn't commit long term, might as well package him to upgrade the position...now let's hope that Duch has chemistry with the team and can't wait to see him with Stone, Hoff, Ryan and especially Karlsson...and that we can re-sign him if so!

- Raven33


Stone is rfa, karlsson is ufa and dutchy is ufa all at the same time. Better hope they dont have chemistry because your gonna be sad when the sens run out of money after stone and karlsson.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 5 @ 9:03 PM ET



The banana is Nashville.
The girl holding it is Colorado
The girl taking it is Ottawa.


- Unholy-Goalie

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 5 @ 9:03 PM ET
hopefully they will re-sign him...a lot of people were saying that Ryan was bolting for the Flyers and he re-signed...
- Raven33


An asset is an asset. Ottawa did not want to give Turris a long term deal. They obtained an even more valuable asset in return. Not entirely improper to think that trading Duchene next year is solid asset management.

Ottawa traded a first round pick and a second to get Turris, Nobody cares today. It was a great deal and this deal needs a few more years to fully play out.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 5 @ 9:05 PM ET
An asset is an asset. Ottawa did not want to give Turris a long term deal. They obtained an even more valuable asset in return. Not entirely improper to think that trading Duchene next year is solid asset management.

Ottawa traded a first round pick and a second to get Turris, Nobody cares today. It was a great deal and this deal needs a few more years to fully play out.

- spatso

Is this alfies alt account?
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Nov 5 @ 9:08 PM ET
Is this alfies alt account?
- Feds91Stammer


yes
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 5 @ 9:09 PM ET
Is this alfies alt account?
- Feds91Stammer

it goes a lot deeper than that..hang on a sec
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 5 @ 9:09 PM ET
Is this alfies alt account?
- Feds91Stammer

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...p?thread_id=147805&page=9
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 5 @ 9:11 PM ET
I think a lot of people are overlooking how stellar of a prospect Girard is. Dude is legit, made some real fine plays in the game I saw when the Flyers played, and I bet there's a lot of Nashville fans sad to see him go. Seems like the real deal as a 19 yo
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 5 @ 9:11 PM ET
http://www.hockeybuzz.com...p?thread_id=147805&page=9
- Nucker101

oh boy
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Nov 5 @ 9:12 PM ET
An asset is an asset. Ottawa did not want to give Turris a long term deal. They obtained an even more valuable asset in return. Not entirely improper to think that trading Duchene next year is solid asset management.

Ottawa traded a first round pick and a second to get Turris, Nobody cares today. It was a great deal and this deal needs a few more years to fully play out.

- spatso

Ottawa gave up Turris a 2017 1st a 2018 1st and a 3rd for duchene haha. Is duchene really 2 1sts and a 3rd better than turris
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 5 @ 9:13 PM ET
http://www.hockeybuzz.com...p?thread_id=147805&page=9
- Nucker101



2nd best thread on this web site. Some great Leaf and Sens fans talking hockey every day.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 5 @ 9:14 PM ET
Ottawa gave up Turris a 2017 1st a 2018 1st and a 3rd for duchene haha. Is duchene really 2 1sts and a 3rd better than turris
- HealthyScratch6

It is a great trade for everyone in that division outside of OTT
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 5 @ 9:17 PM ET
Ottawa gave up Turris a 2017 1st a 2018 1st and a 3rd for duchene haha. Is duchene really 2 1sts and a 3rd better than turris
- HealthyScratch6


We will have to see if Duchene can help them go deeper into the playoffs than last year.

Turris was an exceptional defensive player. He will be missed.

But, Boucher wants Duchene.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 5 @ 9:18 PM ET
We will have to see if Duchene can help them go deeper into the playoffs than last year.

Turris was an exceptional defensive player. He will be missed.

But, Boucher wants Duchene.

- spatso

I will save you the suspense. The answer is no.

Also Turris is definitely not an exceptional defensive player...
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Nov 5 @ 9:23 PM ET
I think a lot of people are overlooking how stellar of a prospect Girard is. Dude is legit, made some real fine plays in the game I saw when the Flyers played, and I bet there's a lot of Nashville fans sad to see him go. Seems like the real deal as a 19 yo
- Giroux_Is_God


He might not get the buzz around him bc hes just one of many good Preds Prospect, but I agree Girard is no slouch.

Its an interesting set of Dmen that the Avs have collected recently. With Barrie, you have Makar and now Girard who are very undersized but stellar puck moving Dmen.

The continue focused on speed and skill continues with what Sakic has been trying to put together post Roy
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 5 @ 9:23 PM ET
All I keep hearing is about how deep this draft is supposed to be. It may not be loaded with Generational talent, but it's supposed to be the deepest draft as far as all around quality in a very long time, so an extra 1st, 2nd and 3rd will be nice.
- Rinosaur

All I here is the opposite.
Not that deep with high end talent.
Simply decent prospects
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 5 @ 9:24 PM ET
We will have to see if Duchene can help them go deeper into the playoffs than last year.

Turris was an exceptional defensive player. He will be missed.

But, Boucher wants Duchene.

- spatso

No he won't.
HockeyHunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa
Joined: 05.16.2017

Nov 5 @ 9:33 PM ET
??....
Colin White has played shown he can play in the playoffs - and a big game at that. Also Chabot just needs to adjust to a bigger game, he has the speed + hockey sense. I'm not saying either will be top 4 or top 6, but certainly playing in key situations, whether PK or just getting more ice time. With the way Boucher loves his vets, that's a bigger role

- AlfieisKing


Did you watch the sens at all during their playoff games? Colin White dressed for 1 game where he skated for a whopping 2:39. I guess getting on the ice is showing he can play in the playoffs. Mighty big two and a half minutes he played there. Real contributor to their playoff run.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 5 @ 9:34 PM ET
All I here is the opposite.
Not that deep with high end talent.
Simply decent prospects

- Fakepartofme

Most drafts are roughly the same. It is just a talking point every year about the strength of the draft.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 5 @ 9:35 PM ET
Did you watch the sens at all during their playoff games? Colin White dressed for 1 game where he skated for a whopping 2:39. I guess getting on the ice is showing he can play in the playoffs. Mighty big two and a half minutes he played there. Real contributor to their playoff run.
- HockeyHunter

Yeah but those where an elite 2:39 mins.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Nov 5 @ 9:36 PM ET
Sakic has Been asking for the moon and stars for Duchene for almost a year now. Serious question: how’d sakic do here? I️ know very little about what went back to Colorado in this deal.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Nov 5 @ 9:39 PM ET
Dynamic Duchene Stat Dump

2014-15 to 2017-18

All Situations

Duchene(Turris)

G60: 0.96(0.91)

P60: 2.17(2.11)

P160: 1.67(1.7)

- Feds91Stammer

This has to be one of the dumbest comparisons. Duchene will be in a much better position than he was previously - equal to what Turris was in with Ottawa. Playing in a crappy situation; no off to Avs fans.

Coga, if I said that was the 3 way deal you would of threw it back in my face. It's quantity over quality. Bowers will take years, hammond is a toss in (though I hope he does well in COL as a back up). I like the D-man from Nashville but in terms of what was being asked, again, it's quantity over quality. It only becomes quality if Sakic makes good on those picks or Girard becomes a solid top 3D - which is very possible so objectively (as someone said I'm not) I think it's good for all teams. Preds look good too but Turris in 4 years isn't worth 6M
HockeyHunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa
Joined: 05.16.2017

Nov 5 @ 9:39 PM ET
Yeah but those where an elite 2:39 mins.
- Feds91Stammer


Best player on the ice for sure. So good in fact that they decided to dress Chris Neil in the next game instead of White just to give the other team a chance
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Nov 5 @ 9:40 PM ET
This has to be one of the dumbest comparisons. Duchene will be in a much better position than he was previously - equal to what Turris was in with Ottawa. Playing in a crappy situation; no off to Avs fans.

Coga, if I said that was the 3 way deal you would of threw it back in my face. It's quantity over quality. Bowers will take years, hammond is a toss in (though I hope he does well in COL as a back up). I like the D-man from Nashville but in terms of what was being asked, again, it's quantity over quality. It only becomes quality if Sakic makes good on those picks or Girard becomes a solid top 3D - which is very possible so objectively (as someone said I'm not) I think it's good for all teams. Preds look good too but Turris in 4 years isn't worth 6M

- AlfieisKing


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