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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 24 @ 12:04 PM ET
That's a fantastic story but in it lies the double standard.

3 boys + 400 condoms = proud daddy

3 girls + 400 condoms = mortified daddy

- bloatedmosquito


having healthy sex is healthy. For everyone. Should be proud daddy in both cases.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 24 @ 12:09 PM ET
That's why I didn't post before what I think it would take . I am not a fan of OJ so I don't mind if he gets shopped around but Benning seems to like him so that is what matters.
- VANTEL


Toews and monahan for Weber?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 24 @ 12:09 PM ET
having healthy sex is healthy. For everyone. Should be proud daddy in both cases.
- neem55


Very mature attitude.

Do you have daughters?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 24 @ 12:10 PM ET
I dont mind sweetening the pot on with an expiring contract like Gudbranson, particularly if he indicates he wont be sticking around, but would have to be a really good/safe return to include any picks in the top 3 rounds for me.

That being said, if we are willing to part with certain players at this stage of a rebuild, I cannot image they have much value beyond some team getting desperate. If our awful D deems Hutton/Stecher expendable, who would see that as good value without throwing in other assets?

- WhiteLie



We are all just spitballin but this is a decision year. We are at the end of an era with the twins expired contract so I think JB thinks he needs to make a move. There is no one in the farm system that is two years away for taking over top line duties .

I like the young guys and I think they all took a step up and now they need to find two more replacements.

I think they can do it, I don't see a need to extend the twins as a security blanket any more. Time for the next chapter
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 24 @ 12:12 PM ET
We are all just spitballin but this is a decision year. We are at the end of an era with the twins expired contract so I think JB thinks he needs to make a move. There is no one in the farm system that is two years away for taking over top line duties .

I like the young guys and I think they all took a step up and now they need to find two more replacements.

I think they can do it, I don't see a need to extend the twins as a security blanket any more. Time for the next chapter

- VANTEL


LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 24 @ 12:13 PM ET
Stetcher and Hutton are garbage.
- Marwood

Sam Reinhart is nothing to call home about either imo. His skating isn't what it should be to be an NHL center. Why would they want to trade him if he were so good?

Just my two cents on Reinhart.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 24 @ 12:13 PM ET
We are all just spitballin but this is a decision year. We are at the end of an era with the twins expired contract so I think JB thinks he needs to make a move. There is no one in the farm system that is two years away for taking over top line duties .

I like the young guys and I think they all took a step up and now they need to find two more replacements.

I think they can do it, I don't see a need to extend the twins as a security blanket any more. Time for the next chapter

- VANTEL


It could be incredibly exciting or a complete disaster. I just hope they have the most capable people in place to manage this team through it.

I'm not convinced yet that they do.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 24 @ 12:15 PM ET
Sam Reinhart is nothing to call home about either imo. His skating isn't what it should be to be an NHL center. Why would they want to trade him if he were so good?

Just my two cents on Reinhart.

- LeftCoaster


He scored 20 goals as a 20 year old
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 24 @ 12:16 PM ET
Sam Reinhart is nothing to call home about either imo. His skating isn't what it should be to be an NHL center. Why would they want to trade him if he were so good?

Just my two cents on Reinhart.

- LeftCoaster


This team needs a slow centre like it needs a hole in the head.

I think JB has mentioned improving team speed is one of his main goals. I'm going to guess that any upcoming moves will involve players with exceptional speed.

Well I hope...
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 24 @ 12:18 PM ET
This team needs a slow centre like it needs a hole in the head.

I think JB has mentioned improving team speed is one of his main goals. I'm going to guess that any upcoming moves will involve players with exceptional speed.

Well I hope...

- bloatedmosquito


Can that be developed?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 24 @ 12:19 PM ET

That's why I like being the boss.

- A_SteamingLombardi


You do things that you know aren't right because that's what the boss wants,
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 24 @ 12:21 PM ET
He scored 20 goals as a 20 year old
- Pres.cup

I know but as a winger and almost half his goals come on special teams. He's not garbage, I just don't think he's what the Canucks need. Actually last year 9 of his 17 goals came on the PP.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Oct 24 @ 12:22 PM ET
It's not that different from us. We have 11 guys on the roster that were brought up through our system, and that is including Demko right now and Tanev and Stecher who were college free agent signings
- nucks_94


Yeah I included college free agents as free agent signings and didnt include for prospects traded for, so Canucks would be at 9. Just thought it was an interesting distinction to the drafting notion to have so very few players on a good team be home grown.

Contrasting to other good teams like Tampa, who has 11/24, or Washington 14/24. I am too lazy to check the rest, but pretty interesting to see who's core is built from drafting and who traded to get to where they are
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 24 @ 12:25 PM ET
Yeah I included college free agents as free agent signings and didnt include for prospects traded for, so Canucks would be at 9. Just thought it was an interesting distinction to the drafting notion to have so very few players on a good team be home grown.

Contrasting to other good teams like Tampa, who has 11/24, or Washington 14/24. I am too lazy to check the rest, but pretty interesting to see who's core is built from drafting and who traded to get to where they are

- WhiteLie

Only once in awhile do you get lucky enough to come across an idiot GM who'll give you Tyler Seguin for Loui Eriksson.

Not the norm!
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 24 @ 12:26 PM ET
Very mature attitude.

Do you have daughters?

- bloatedmosquito

Nope! But I hope to. I grew up in a house where this was an appreciated concept. You're a bit grossed out by it as a kid, but as an adult I appreciate what my parents were like to all the kids equally. Hippies FTW!
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Oct 24 @ 12:27 PM ET
Am I the only one that wonders what you all see in Sam Reinhart? The only thing is he was drafted 2nd overall in 2014. He had only 47 points last yr playing with Jack Eichel. He’s been a minus player ever since he’s been in the league and he’s averaging 4 penalties a yr. he’s not a big enough producer to be only offensive. Overrated! Just like his other brothers.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 24 @ 12:28 PM ET
Am I the only one that wonders what you all see in Sam Reinhart? The only thing is he was drafted 2nd overall in 2014. He had only 47 points last yr playing with Jack Eichel. He’s been a minus player ever since he’s been in the league and he’s averaging 4 penalties a yr. he’s not a big enough producer to be only offensive. Overrated! Just like his other brothers.
- Kaynine

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 24 @ 12:28 PM ET
Nope! But I hope to. I grew up in a house where this was an appreciated concept. You're a bit grossed out by it as a kid, but as an adult I appreciate what my parents were like to all the kids equally. Hippies FTW!
- neem55


neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 24 @ 12:29 PM ET
Sam Reinhart is nothing to call home about either imo. His skating isn't what it should be to be an NHL center. Why would they want to trade him if he were so good?

Just my two cents on Reinhart.

- LeftCoaster


I think he's more suited to play winger and has shown very high hockey IQ playing the left sideboards on the powerplay (something we haven't had... maybe ever, no Nassy play left or right sideboard?). I think he's got legit top6 NHL talent, which is more than I can say for Sven. Not worth selling the house for but hutton or sven and a 2nd I would do. There's a reason the kid went 2oa.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Oct 24 @ 12:29 PM ET
We are all just spitballin but this is a decision year. We are at the end of an era with the twins expired contract so I think JB thinks he needs to make a move. There is no one in the farm system that is two years away for taking over top line duties .

I like the young guys and I think they all took a step up and now they need to find two more replacements.

I think they can do it, I don't see a need to extend the twins as a security blanket any more. Time for the next chapter

- VANTEL


I am ok with another losing season beyond this one to wait for other prospects to be ready, I dont like the scorched earth rebuild but I also dont want to overpay UFA's with term and money. It'll be interesting season and offseason, especially if ownership isnt sold on JB
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 24 @ 12:30 PM ET
Can that be developed?
- VanHockeyGuy


And there is the gamble. I think you have to consider age, years in the league, and physical ability of the player.

Pretty big gamble at this point.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Oct 24 @ 12:32 PM ET
Only once in awhile do you get lucky enough to come across an idiot GM who'll give you Tyler Seguin for Loui Eriksson.

Not the norm!

- LeftCoaster


St.Louis might be another team with low numbers as well, though I think that is a result of trading away players once they were established, to try and get them over the hump.

I also just like giving ammo to those who want to argue with you about drafting
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 24 @ 12:33 PM ET
Only once in awhile do you get lucky enough to come across an idiot GM who'll give you Tyler Seguin for Loui Eriksson.

Not the norm!

- LeftCoaster

erat for Forsberg was worse
I hope JB is being aggressive in at least calling about young players. lots of lockerroom issues drive good young guys out.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 24 @ 12:33 PM ET
I think he's more suited to play winger and has shown very high hockey IQ playing the left sideboards on the powerplay (something we haven't had... maybe ever, no Nassy play left or right sideboard?). I think he's got legit top6 NHL talent, which is more than I can say for Sven. Not worth selling the house for but hutton or sven and a 2nd I would do. There's a reason the kid went 2oa.
- neem55

Personally I'd pass and draft that talent or develop it. Henrik used to set up on the halfwall on the PP, collected a lot of points from there. Maybe Pettersson can be that guy?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 24 @ 12:38 PM ET
Only once in awhile do you get lucky enough to come across an idiot GM who'll give you Tyler Seguin for Loui Eriksson.

Not the norm!

- LeftCoaster


Ehrhoff for White

Lou for Bert


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