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PavohnDatsvares
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.03.2016

Oct 21 @ 10:18 PM ET
MTL has Juulson, and some depth D...if I am bergevin I would maybe look into trading Drouin as well (I am sure COL would be interested in reuniting him with McKinnon). Option could be Drouin + Galchenyuk for Duchense and Landeskog? Otherwise, maybe instead of Drouin the do Juulson, 1st in 2017 and somebody like Byron?
- mventres


Not enough. Drouin just arrived in MTL, and he's probably been their best player. No way he's involved in anything for Duchene. Drouin > Duchene.

Also; you do realize the 2017 draft has already happened, right?
Szela93
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Strathroy, ON
Joined: 09.30.2015

Oct 21 @ 11:51 PM ET
And what do these teams possibly have to offer?
Michael OConnor
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North Bay, ON
Joined: 07.01.2015

Oct 22 @ 12:04 AM ET
Not much of an article, just speculation. Colorado is probably asking far too much for Duchene and I doubt Montreal has what it takes to make a run at him. I could see Lehkonen being part of the deal, as well as one of the Canadiens three 2nd round draft picks for 2018. It all depends on how much the Avalanche wan back and whether or not the Canadiens decide they want to start a rebuild. I am sure the Avalanche want youth and picks to help build a strong, young team moving forward.

If I was the Colorado GM, I would ask Montreal for two second round picks as well as Lehkonen or Juulsen. It's time to get Duchene out of the lineup so the team can move forward. He has been on the trading block for over a year now and it's obvious that he wants out.
Brzlnut
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.18.2016

Oct 22 @ 12:00 PM ET
If Barrie is coming back to MTL, I think dealing Mete won't be a problem. MTL has Weber, Petry and Alsner. With Barrie that would make a good top 4.

So, if Duchene and Barrie for Mete, Gally, 1st and another prospect is the cost, I think MTL has to do it. With Price's age/contract it doesn't make sense to trade off pieces and rebuild. Duchene and Pacs, with Drouin could be a pretty good line imo. They do need some sandpaper, so if Landeskog could come for Juulson, I would do that too.

- mventres



So let me get this straight cause english is not my language. You are proposing;

Duchene, Barrie & Landeskog for
Galchenyuk, Mete, Juulsen and a 1st?

I always knew Canadians fans to be a little crazy but this is insane. You are venturing into that Sens fan, Alfie's something territory...
rangerbluelou
New York Rangers
Location: Boca Raton, FL
Joined: 06.20.2011

Oct 22 @ 12:00 PM ET
If Rangers are in on the Colorado sweeps, keep Duchenne and I'll take Mackinnon for Kreider and Skjea and a 3rd rnd pick.
Brzlnut
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.18.2016

Oct 22 @ 12:05 PM ET
Not much of an article, just speculation. Colorado is probably asking far too much for Duchene and I doubt Montreal has what it takes to make a run at him. I could see Lehkonen being part of the deal, as well as one of the Canadiens three 2nd round draft picks for 2018. It all depends on how much the Avalanche wan back and whether or not the Canadiens decide they want to start a rebuild. I am sure the Avalanche want youth and picks to help build a strong, young team moving forward.

If I was the Colorado GM, I would ask Montreal for two second round picks as well as Lehkonen or Juulsen. It's time to get Duchene out of the lineup so the team can move forward. He has been on the trading block for over a year now and it's obvious that he wants out.

- Michael OConnor


Sakic does NOT want prospects. That's been the hold up. He wants NHL ready or very close to NHL ready players. They already did a futures deal with ROR and aren't interested in waiting 2-3 seasons for players to be ready. They hands down won the ROR trade but the pieces are only starting to reach the NHL. Montreal has nothing to offer. They could've had Duchene but traded their only chip in Sergachev. MB is about to lose his job and good thing cause he ruined that Montreal team. Ouch!
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Oct 22 @ 12:48 PM ET
Just deal him already... holy smokes
Delios001
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 22 @ 1:12 PM ET
MTL has Juulson, and some depth D...if I am bergevin I would maybe look into trading Drouin as well (I am sure COL would be interested in reuniting him with McKinnon). Option could be Drouin + Galchenyuk for Duchense and Landeskog? Otherwise, maybe instead of Drouin the do Juulson, 1st in 2017 and somebody like Byron?
- mventres


Trading the just acquired French Canadian legit player for a so so 2nd line centre with a French name ....

that‘s going to upset a lot of people.....
really upset a lot of people....

I mean burning puppets with Bergevin head on it, riots in the street, all that ugly stuff....



CupOnBroadSt.
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.23.2012

Oct 22 @ 1:16 PM ET
Weise Manning Read should help their TANK
- Bonerfide69


The Flyers NEVER tank. That's a Penguins thing.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 22 @ 1:26 PM ET
Big
1993_Cup_Champs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Heart of Mid-western Ontario
Joined: 07.17.2006

Oct 22 @ 1:38 PM ET
Sakic does NOT want prospects. That's been the hold up. He wants NHL ready or very close to NHL ready players. They already did a futures deal with ROR and aren't interested in waiting 2-3 seasons for players to be ready. They hands down won the ROR trade but the pieces are only starting to reach the NHL. Montreal has nothing to offer. They could've had Duchene but traded their only chip in Sergachev. MB is about to lose his job and good thing cause he ruined that Montreal team. Ouch!
- Brzlnut


Make up your mind. You say sakic doesnt want prospects for dutchy but then proceed to say montreal traded their only trade piece in sergachev who was and is still just that, a prospect. You're just as confusing as sakic is.
pidesd
Location: montreal, QC
Joined: 10.22.2017

Oct 22 @ 3:57 PM ET
Just trade Price for whoever needs a goalie for a first liner or a first defensemen and we would be already in a better position for draft and next season with Lindgren and McNiven slowly cooking.

either this or never ever have to win anything for many years to come

And getting an OK goalie is easier than getting a first liner.

There were plenty of teams that were eliminated in recent years not beacuase of the goalie.

Maybe the Blues would do it?

junaka3
Joined: 08.12.2009

Oct 22 @ 5:27 PM ET
If anyone has watch Rangers, they’ve been pretty much rolling 4 sets of wingers around 3 centers. Carrying extra d men imo to either showcase as Trade bait or decide who they want to keep. My guess is Skjei will be part of deal to get Duchene.
Chardcore709
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Passion That Unites Us All , NF
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 22 @ 8:18 PM ET
Forget getting barrie my friend that combination of four would only possibly land you Duchene. Galchenyuk currently is an excuse for a hockey player and barely an nhl caliber player. He might maybe possibly be able to get better as you cant get much worse. He's a serious gamble for any team currently. Juulsen looked like he had some potential last year but seems to be dropping on the habs depth chart. And with that terrible d core and prospect pool that cant be good for anyones future career. And I dont think the avs would even want mccarron in the organization hes a 4th liner at best with very little upside. Ive watched him play a bunch of games live and he lacks character, leadership and isnt a good skater doesnt have a any offence. His only upside if you can call it that is hes big and strong and thats not with this nhl is all about currently. The 1st round pick would be the main part of the deal as that could easily be a 1st overall pick to land a potential franchise player. The other 3 players are all big gambles. That's just telling you the facts on your talent pool from an outside real world perspective!
Chardcore709
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Passion That Unites Us All , NF
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 22 @ 8:22 PM ET
Not much of an article, just speculation. Colorado is probably asking far too much for Duchene and I doubt Montreal has what it takes to make a run at him. I could see Lehkonen being part of the deal, as well as one of the Canadiens three 2nd round draft picks for 2018. It all depends on how much the Avalanche wan back and whether or not the Canadiens decide they want to start a rebuild. I am sure the Avalanche want youth and picks to help build a strong, young team moving forward.

If I was the Colorado GM, I would ask Montreal for two second round picks as well as Lehkonen or Juulsen. It's time to get Duchene out of the lineup so the team can move forward. He has been on the trading block for over a year now and it's obvious that he wants out.

- Michael OConnor



0 chance that deal will happen, if thats the best offer Colorado gets Duchene will be retiring there.
Chardcore709
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Passion That Unites Us All , NF
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 22 @ 8:38 PM ET
Trading the just acquired French Canadian legit player for a so so 2nd line centre with a French name ....

that‘s going to upset a lot of people.....
really upset a lot of people....

I mean burning puppets with Bergevin head on it, riots in the street, all that ugly stuff....

- Delios001


Duchene is better then Drouin and hes a legit 1st line centre. Im not sure how any montreal fan can say Duchene is a 2nd line centre. In Toronto or Edmonton he is, in montreal he's the best centre they've had since Joe Malone! I know your not saying a glorified winger is better then a young experienced proven 1st line centre? Sure Drouin is the best montreal currently has to offer as there other three lines are centered by 4th line centres on almost any other team.
Chardcore709
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Passion That Unites Us All , NF
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 22 @ 8:41 PM ET
So let me get this straight cause english is not my language. You are proposing;

Duchene, Barrie & Landeskog for
Galchenyuk, Mete, Juulsen and a 1st?

I always knew Canadians fans to be a little crazy but this is insane. You are venturing into that Sens fan, Alfie's something territory...

- Brzlnut


Amen...preach it brother, you've seen the light and need to share your word with these poor unknowledgeable fans.
Chardcore709
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Passion That Unites Us All , NF
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 22 @ 8:53 PM ET
Oh Just Duchene & Landeskog for a 4th liner that the Habs have marginalized so bad and Drouin ...
being at the game last night and watching the Habs play... I really didn't see anyone on that team others would be interested in trading for w/o serious additions.
If I'm trading with Habs - Mete is the guy I'm looking for - he was all over the ice making things happen last night....

- dozerD10


Agreed theres a lot of glue huffers on here, galchenyuk would need mete and a 1st rounder minimum and thats just for duchene forget landeskog in the equation...who knows edmonton might do mcdavid and draisaitl if you throw in montoya and one of your 5 8th depth defenceman with galchenyuk!!!
Chardcore709
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Passion That Unites Us All , NF
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 22 @ 8:56 PM ET
I like how in all these hypothetical trades, the throw in on Colorado's side always seems to be Barrie or Landeskog.
- westonie


Yeah exactly colorados throw in are top notch nhlers and game changers. Montreals throw in are ahlers loke mccarron and depth forwards like byron! What a joke! Can people really be this delusional??
Chardcore709
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Passion That Unites Us All , NF
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 22 @ 9:00 PM ET
Soooooo.... Duchene to the Leafs?

Matthews
Duchene
Kadri
Bozak

.... Looking strong down the middle.

- PavohnDatsvares


Yes and by the sounds of habs fans we should be able to land him for eric fehr and if we throw in colin greening we could probably get barrie thrown in as well!!! Good grief charlie brown!
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 22 @ 10:53 PM ET
Habs are on that inevitable rollercoaster. Getting old, too many long-term, big money contracts, and a shallow prospect pool. Their window closed 2 years ago, and they can't seem to deal with the idea that they need to rebuild. Patches, Price and Weber are great veteran players, but they're past their peak and suck up too much salary cap. It reminds me of the Canucks, two years ago. At least they were able to move a couple of older pieces, that allowed them to add a couple of younger players. Habs have done none of this. They are in purgatory and too good to be in the bottom 5 and not good enough to make it into the playoffs. Good luck with that, Habs fans.
Chardcore709
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Passion That Unites Us All , NF
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 22 @ 11:05 PM ET
Habs are on that inevitable rollercoaster. Getting old, too many long-term, big money contracts, and a shallow prospect pool. Their window closed 2 years ago, and they can't seem to deal with the idea that they need to rebuild. Patches, Price and Weber are great veteran players, but they're past their peak and suck up too much salary cap. It reminds me of the Canucks, two years ago. At least they were able to move a couple of older pieces, that allowed them to add a couple of younger players. Habs have done none of this. They are in purgatory and too good to be in the bottom 5 and not good enough to make it into the playoffs. Good luck with that, Habs fans.
- PrinceLH


Great message, high fives all around.
Delios001
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 23 @ 10:52 AM ET
Duchene is better then Drouin and hes a legit 1st line centre. Im not sure how any montreal fan can say Duchene is a 2nd line centre. In Toronto or Edmonton he is, in montreal he's the best centre they've had since Joe Malone! I know your not saying a glorified winger is better then a young experienced proven 1st line centre? Sure Drouin is the best montreal currently has to offer as there other three lines are centered by 4th line centres on almost any other team.
- Chardcore709


As per usual the Toronto-Gloryhunter-Section has no clue what a French Canadian player means to Quebec.


Go look at your Matthews poster above your bed Fanboy, and recount the years without a Cup before you share any of your wisdom.
l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Oct 23 @ 1:07 PM ET
Duchene is better then Drouin and hes a legit 1st line centre. Im not sure how any montreal fan can say Duchene is a 2nd line centre. In Toronto or Edmonton he is, in montreal he's the best centre they've had since Joe Malone! I know your not saying a glorified winger is better then a young experienced proven 1st line centre? Sure Drouin is the best montreal currently has to offer as there other three lines are centered by 4th line centres on almost any other team.
- Chardcore709


He's a 26yo with 2 years on his contract at 6m. The way things are going, he will request upwards to 8mil in 2 years.

Douin is a 22yo with a 5year contract at a better cap hit then Duchene.

Whether Duchene is a better player or not, it's marginal and with the contracts, Drouin > Duchene every day of the week.
Chardcore709
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Passion That Unites Us All , NF
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 23 @ 2:10 PM ET
As per usual the Toronto-Gloryhunter-Section has no clue what a French Canadian player means to Quebec.
Go look at your Matthews poster above your bed Fanboy, and recount the years without a Cup before you share any of your wisdom.

- Delios001


Typical montreal fan puts there own spin on everything that has nothing to do with my comment. I'll explain it to you a little slower this time... How can a montreal fan as you did call Duchene a so so 2nd line centre??? I don't give a shat if he's from the Taliban he's a top line center on a lot of teams and the best centre your team would have had since at least the 70's! You do realize your current 1st line centre is not even a centre. If montreal had any talent at all at centre do you think they would have him playing centre ice? Answer, NO and it has nothing to do with him being French Canadian that there doing that. If a miracle happened and the habs got Duchene do you honestly think Drouin stays as first line centre and they drop Duchene to line two? Or as you stated he's a so so 2nd line centre so I guess they probably put him on the 3rd line and put the superstar known as plekanec on the 2nd.
Also in the future please don't use Matthews name in the same article as drouin as I don't want people thinking he's hanging out with riff raff.
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