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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:21 PM ET
one game suspension is fine. I am not surprised. Once he left his feet you knew that there would be a suspension.
- canuckfan069

Only his right foot was off the ice a bit.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 20 @ 4:21 PM ET
You only have to look at both hits and make judgment and kassians was worse, the video tells the story but then again the league always makes bad examples of the canucks.
- Bettmanhatesus

I find delusional Canuck fans also make bad examples of the Canucks.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:22 PM ET
But looking forward to Big Bad Buffalo.... any thoughts?
- Beatle_john

7-2 BUF Marky pulled after 4.

Biega!!
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Oct 20 @ 4:25 PM ET
If this was the case then players would turn their backs all the time and there wouldn't be any hitting just an insane amount of holding calls.
- manvanfan


Maybe you misunderstood me, I think there is responsibility on the puck carrier to protect himself which means they cannot expect to be safe if they make plays that leave themselves vulnerable, IE accepting a suicide pass
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Oct 20 @ 4:25 PM ET
Stop whining. You have zero substance.
- Marwood

Itsjustarash
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 08.29.2013

Oct 20 @ 4:26 PM ET
I'm still pissed about the non instigator penalty that should have been called. Even though the Bruins scored all of their pp goals in the final 3 minutes of the pp. The game could have been different if the Canucks would have scored on a 4v4 scenario.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:26 PM ET
I find delusional Canuck fans also make bad examples of the Canucks.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I haven't seen the Kassian hit, but the Gudbranson suspension was warranted, that was a text book dirty hit. He charged, went high, had about 2 feet of height on the guy, and hit him right in the numbers.


I'm thinking we see WEirchoch called up over Biega, he plays the right side as well.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:26 PM ET
Meh, to me his should position never changes until he releases the puck. I agree that there is onus on the player with the puck to protect himself, but Gudbranson had options to make contact and retrieve the puck within the rules - thus the suspension
- WhiteLie


Yeah it's one game and there is also the question of leaving the feet so I don't think Nucks fans should be outraged by the suspension.

I guess it all comes down to the fact that some people see a subtle, yet important, last minute shift by Vatrano and others do not see this and think nothing significant about Vatrano's position changed at the last moment. It would probably take a much more detailed look with multiple camera angles/zooms for those two groups of people to convince each other so it's pretty much an impasse.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:26 PM ET
I'm still pissed about the non instigator penalty that should have been called. Even though the Bruins scored all of their pp goals in the final 3 minutes of the pp. The game could have been different if the Canucks would have scored on a 4v4 scenario.
- Itsjustarash


the game would have been exactly the same, our PP and coverage were a dumpster fire.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 20 @ 4:31 PM ET
the game would have been exactly the same, our PP and coverage were a dumpster fire.
- Crazybagoham


You're a much better poster when you're not drunk.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Oct 20 @ 4:33 PM ET
Yeah it's one game and there is also the question of leaving the feet so I don't think Nucks fans should be outraged by the suspension.

I guess it all comes down to the fact that some people see a subtle, yet important, last minute shift by Vatrano and others do not see this and think nothing significant about Vatrano's position changed at the last moment. It would probably take a much more detailed look with multiple camera angles/zooms for those two groups of people to convince each other so it's pretty much an impasse.

- RonPielep


True. The cases I dont like are when a player shifts like that and in reaction the defender tries to compensate for being beat and does something suspension-worthy. Fans like to blame the victim for turning as opposed to the defender trying to make up for being beat

Regardless, with all the camera angles, I have reasonable faith in the former NHLers running the department to appropriately understand those nuances you mention and decide if the actions were deserving of suspension
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Oct 20 @ 4:33 PM ET
Yeah it's one game and there is also the question of leaving the feet so I don't think Nucks fans should be outraged by the suspension.

I guess it all comes down to the fact that some people see a subtle, yet important, last minute shift by Vatrano and others do not see this and think nothing significant about Vatrano's position changed at the last moment. It would probably take a much more detailed look with multiple camera angles/zooms for those two groups of people to convince each other so it's pretty much an impasse.

- RonPielep


Gudbranson was looking for the hit.

if Vatrano was at 75%, 1/4 turn one way, and it is shoulder on shoulder, 1/4 the other way and it was Guddy hitting numbers.

Guddy done wrong. anticipated and was wrong.

I love the solid checks but I'm guessing it will all slowly be phased out and we will be left with incidental contact, the occasional big hit and the debate will be all about intent.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 20 @ 4:36 PM ET
Gudbranson was looking for the hit.

if Vatrano was at 75%, 1/4 turn one way, and it is shoulder on shoulder, 1/4 the other way and it was Guddy hitting numbers.

Guddy done wrong. anticipated and was wrong.

I love the solid checks but I'm guessing it will all slowly be phased out and we will be left with incidental contact, the occasional big hit and the debate will be all about intent.

- hillbillydeluxe

All players need a chip in their head so we can determine their intent.


It was just a stuck glove.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 20 @ 4:38 PM ET
Maybe you misunderstood me, I think there is responsibility on the puck carrier to protect himself which means they cannot expect to be safe if they make plays that leave themselves vulnerable, IE accepting a suicide pass
- WhiteLie

Ahh okay my bad. Open ice hits suicide passes are probably a no hit zone. Speed through the neutral zone is fun. Along the boards, anyone that turns towards them is there own stupidity.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 20 @ 4:44 PM ET
Yeah it's one game and there is also the question of leaving the feet so I don't think Nucks fans should be outraged by the suspension.

I guess it all comes down to the fact that some people see a subtle, yet important, last minute shift by Vatrano and others do not see this and think nothing significant about Vatrano's position changed at the last moment. It would probably take a much more detailed look with multiple camera angles/zooms for those two groups of people to convince each other so it's pretty much an impasse.

- RonPielep

Actually, no it's not. It was a dirty, undisciplined hit.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Oct 20 @ 4:46 PM ET
Ahh okay my bad. Open ice hits suicide passes are probably a no hit zone. Speed through the neutral zone is fun. Along the boards, anyone that turns towards them is there own stupidity.
- manvanfan


we have gone from preaching, "keep your head up" to don't touch anyone with their head down.

I'm waiting for 3 or 4 digit player numbers that wrap completely around the body.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Oct 20 @ 4:47 PM ET
All players need a chip in their head so we can determine their intent.


It was just a stuck glove.

- A_SteamingLombardi


all a big misunderstanding.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Oct 20 @ 4:48 PM ET
I find delusional Canuck fans also make bad examples of the Canucks.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Then stop being dilusional. What happened to the call on the ice was enough that's what player safety usually says. Its a contact sport and its fast and these things happen but they pick and choose who gets disciplined its so obvious.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 20 @ 4:50 PM ET
Then stop being dilusional. What happened to the call on the ice was enough that's what player safety usually says. Its a contact sport and its fast and these things happen but they pick and choose who gets disciplined its so obvious.
- Bettmanhatesus

I'm not the one saying the league is out to get us.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 20 @ 4:52 PM ET
I'm not the one saying the league is out to get us.
- A_SteamingLombardi

What is it that John Cleese said?
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:52 PM ET

You're a much better poster when you're not drunk.

- A_SteamingLombardi


when am I ever sober?
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Oct 20 @ 4:52 PM ET
I'm not the one saying the league is out to get us.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Anyone can see that
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:55 PM ET
Actually, no it's not. It was a dirty, undisciplined hit.
- Marwood




textbook game misconduct.

I thought the suspension was a little much, considering the Bruins destroyed us in that 5 minute span. But its only a game, top 4 defensemen get these all the time, don't know why ppl are freaking out.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Oct 20 @ 4:56 PM ET


Svechnikov out till Christmas.

Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:57 PM ET
Then stop being dilusional. What happened to the call on the ice was enough that's what player safety usually says. Its a contact sport and its fast and these things happen but they pick and choose who gets disciplined its so obvious.
- Bettmanhatesus


its one game, I know your name precludes panic.... but lets just chillllll
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