If we lose tonight, it will be because the coach went against his normal philosophy of keeping the lineup intact after a win. Look, I like Sanheim and want him to do well, and I'm not saying Manning has had anything to do with the wins, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Manning usually makes a couple of mistakes per game(like any D-man out there), but I don't think players should be on pins and needles worrying if they will be scratched after a mistake. Are Manning and Sanheim the only two who can get scratched? Gudas hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire so far. Oh well. Hope the boys can win another one tonight.

If we lose tonight, it will be because the coach went against his normal philosophy of keeping the lineup intact after a win. Look, I like Sanheim and want him to do well, and I'm not saying Manning has had anything to do with the wins, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Manning usually makes a couple of mistakes per game(like any D-man out there), but I don't think players should be on pins and needles worrying if they will be scratched after a mistake. Are Manning and Sanheim the only two who can get scratched? Gudas hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire so far. Oh well. Hope the boys can win another one tonight.
- boxcar65

I want to cut you.

I want to cut you.
- flyer_nutter

Why dont you tell us how you really feel..

No need. When it's 8 years at $7.01m announced on July 5th, 2018 our resident historian will dig it out as proof of how wrong you always are.
- Scoob

I can say the same in that it's shocking that you disagreed with me. It's not the norm. He normally plays a lot better than that. If he played at that level on a regular basis, he would not be in the NHL. He had numerous turnovers and issues with the puck in that game. If in your opinion that is Manning than that contradicts your previous post that he was fine. That level of play is not fine, whether it's the norm for a player or not.
- MJL

What's amusing is you some how expect more....(frank)ing clueless!!!!!

sent you both a PMs it's not as bad as many things he said to me but i dunno if i would get in trouble putting it here
- 2Real

Oh come on, post it.

I like Manning but he had a really bad game.
- nastyflyergirl

Again what do you expect....Manning is a below average defenceman....he played below average. So we are on the same page he should never play ahead of Sanheim or Morin for that matter

Why dont you tell us how you really feel..
- opeth_pa

Cautious optimism. I have to be lured in to watch the boys consistently the last few years. Like a sweet baby deer they need to entice me to come closer.

Playing the kids that are obviously ready, is the bait I need. Give it to me.

i got a pm from MJL once he said i hurt his feelings and he was feeling depressed
- 2Real

Now that's funny.

Oh come on, post it.
- nastyflyergirl

It's what Gunnery Sergeant Hartman said:

"Looks like the best part of you..."

Oh come on, post it.
- nastyflyergirl

Just gonna send it

If we lose tonight, it will be because the coach went against his normal philosophy of keeping the lineup intact after a win. Look, I like Sanheim and want him to do well, and I'm not saying Manning has had anything to do with the wins, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Manning usually makes a couple of mistakes per game(like any D-man out there), but I don't think players should be on pins and needles worrying if they will be scratched after a mistake. Are Manning and Sanheim the only two who can get scratched? Gudas hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire so far. Oh well. Hope the boys can win another one tonight.
- boxcar65

Gudas on a horrible day is slightlty worse than Manning on a great day. So yes, it's Manning and Sanheim right now.

God, the love for Manning due to his "hard worker" status and willingness to get punched in the face repeatedly is mind-boggling.

Gudas on a horrible day is slightlty worse than Manning on a great day. So yes, it's Manning and Sanheim right now.

God, the love for Manning due to his "hard worker" status and willingness to get punched in the face repeatedly is mind-boggling.
- jmatchett383

It’s the Bellemare thing. poopty player, but good soldier.

It’s the Bellemare thing. poopty player, but good soldier.
- flyer_nutter

Yes, but last year, we didn't have a clear NHL-ready upgrade for him. Not so much the case with Manning this year.

Can I get a hooo with a woo?
- flyer_nutter

Under no circumstances.

Off-topic, but guy in the Pens thread saying that Lundqvist should not get into the HHOF because he doesn't have any championships (wrong) and because he has a sub-.500 win% in the playoffs.

Look, I hate the Rangers as much as any red-blooded American neanderthal, but Lundqvist should be in the HHOF when all is said and done.

If we lose tonight, it will be because the coach went against his normal philosophy of keeping the lineup intact after a win. Look, I like Sanheim and want him to do well, and I'm not saying Manning has had anything to do with the wins, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Manning usually makes a couple of mistakes per game(like any D-man out there), but I don't think players should be on pins and needles worrying if they will be scratched after a mistake. Are Manning and Sanheim the only two who can get scratched? Gudas hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire so far. Oh well. Hope the boys can win another one tonight.
- boxcar65

I agree, if they lose tonight, the players on the ice won't have anything to do with it. It will be all because he didn't play Manning who had a poor game last time out. Manning's spot in the lineup should be a lock.

What's amusing is you some how expect more....(frank)ing clueless!!!!!
- landros 2

No, I don't expect more. I expect the player to play to the level that he's capable of playing at and that he's shown in the past. You stated that Manning was fine last game and now you're calling me clueless.

If we lose tonight, it will be because the coach went against his normal philosophy of keeping the lineup intact after a win. Look, I like Sanheim and want him to do well, and I'm not saying Manning has had anything to do with the wins, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Manning usually makes a couple of mistakes per game(like any D-man out there), but I don't think players should be on pins and needles worrying if they will be scratched after a mistake. Are Manning and Sanheim the only two who can get scratched? Gudas hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire so far. Oh well. Hope the boys can win another one tonight.
- boxcar65

So, theoretically speaking, say G and Jake we to both go down with an injury, miss a few games in which we win, you wouldnt bring them back into the lineup, because... if its aint broke, dont fix it?

I agree, if they lose tonight, the players on the ice won't have anything to do with it. It will be all because he didn't play Manning who had a poor game last time out. Manning's spot in the lineup should be a lock.
- MJL

Bingo, MJL, you are right on target. This is Manning's last year here, so I'd like to see him play as much as possible....lol.

Yes, I am a huge fan of his, but I want the team to succeed. I hope Sanheim comes in and lights the world on fire, but the dislike for Manning has always been way over the top on all the social media outlets and forums. All D-men make mistakes every single game, but unfortunately Manning usually makes one major gaffe that looks really bad and sticks out in people's minds. He's a standard #6 D who is good for 15 minutes/game. Believe me, Brandon Manning is not going to be the main reason we win or lose. His corsi has gotten off to a tough start this year, but the past two seasons he has been fine in that area.

No, I don't expect more. I expect the player to play to the level that he's capable of playing at and that he's shown in the past. You stated that Manning was fine last game and now you're calling me clueless.
- MJL

the Manning the other night was what he is.....a below average defenceman.....our coaching staff, which in your eyes knows all, continue to use him....for Brandon Manning Tuesday is par for the course. Not sure what you expect from a AHL/NHL tweener defenceman. He was fine....for Brandon Manning.

Bingo, MJL, you are right on target. This is Manning's last year here, so I'd like to see him play as much as possible....lol.

Yes, I am a huge fan of his, but I want the team to succeed. I hope Sanheim comes in and lights the world on fire, but the dislike for Manning has always been way over the top on all the social media outlets and forums. All D-men make mistakes every single game, but unfortunately Manning usually makes one major gaffe that looks really bad and sticks out in people's minds. He's a standard #6 D who is good for 15 minutes/game. Believe me, Brandon Manning is not going to be the main reason we win or lose. His corsi has gotten off to a tough start this year, but the past two seasons he has been fine in that area.
- boxcar65

I guess I didn't do a good job of it but my post was an attempt at sarcasm. In my opinion your premise of blaming Hakstol if they lose because he sat Manning and played Sanheim, is ridiculous. I agree that some are over the top on Manning but he is a part time 6/7 in this league at best, and he should not be a regular in the lineup.

So, theoretically speaking, say G and Jake we to both go down with an injury, miss a few games in which we win, you wouldnt bring them back into the lineup, because... if its aint broke, dont fix it?
- jak521

No, because those are two high impact players that should be in the lineup at all times. My point was subbing in Sanheim for Manning is really not going to make that much of a difference in the grand scheme of things. Yes, I think Sanheim has a great skill set, but what are you going to say if he looks terrible the next few games???

I just think Hakstol should settle on three pairs of D and let them grow together. You shouldn't be worried if one or two mistakes are going to put you in the rafters the next game.

the Manning the other night was what he is.....a below average defenceman.....our coaching staff, which in your eyes knows all, continue to use him....for Brandon Manning Tuesday is par for the course. Not sure what you expect from a AHL/NHL tweener defenceman. He was fine....for Brandon Manning.
- landros 2

I disagree. Manning had a particularly poor game on Tuesday even for his regular standards. His ice time was indicative of that. The coaching staff is not playing Manning tonight.

No, because those are two high impact players that should be in the lineup at all times. My point was subbing in Sanheim for Manning is really not going to make that much of a difference in the grand scheme of things. Yes, I think Sanheim has a great skill set, but what are you going to say if he looks terrible the next few games???

I just think Hakstol should settle on three pairs of D and let them grow together. You shouldn't be worried if one or two mistakes are going to put you in the rafters the next game.
- boxcar65

So the best way for Sanheim's game to grow is for him to sit in the press box for a dozen straight games or so in order for Manning to play consistently?