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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 18 @ 8:42 PM ET
I agree with you.

I pillow talk hockey with Mrs. Lums all the time. She's so much more interesting than you twats.



....but seriously, I agree, just weird how bent you are about the matter.

- Barb34


I'm fed up with it. I've seen it in my own field, and it makes my skin crawl - and that (specifically listening to women who I respect immensely) has made it more obvious to me in hockey culture.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 18 @ 8:42 PM ET
Just your friendly neighbor seagull.
- Steven_Seagull

AND you hate women...
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 18 @ 8:42 PM ET
Leafs shooting percentage just went down about 30% with that save.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 18 @ 8:43 PM ET
It’s something we have to improve upon here, but saying that, you can disagree with a blogger, you just can’t insult them.

If my daughter wrote hockey blogs here and she was criticized strictly on gender, Hell yes I would be extremely mad.

- LeafMan


So read back and reflect about why male bloggers haven't been criticised for offering things more meaningless than views of themselves eating popcorn. It's a double standard, and it's obvious.

I overemphasised my opposition of MiB to bring this into bring this double standard into focus - the fact that this criticism got picked up but not the gender issue is prrof of that.

EDIT: Hell, Jillian criticised one of Ek's posts and had hers edited and deleted. That's the standard of which I speak.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 18 @ 8:43 PM ET
AND you hate women...

- 21peter






Don’t tell Lums.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Oct 18 @ 8:45 PM ET
So read back and reflect about why male bloggers haven't been criticised for offering things more meaningless than views of themselves eating popcorn. It's a double standard, and it's obvious.

I overemphasised my opposition of MiB to bring this into bring this double standard into focus - the fact that this criticism got picked up but not the gender issue is prrof of that.

- lumlums


Are there examples of such? Sincere question.

When certain bloggers put out crap they get lambasted for it.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 18 @ 8:46 PM ET
Hyman absolutely belongs on the top line.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 18 @ 8:47 PM ET
No Wedge, I see that you criticise them - I also see that you seem to have a different standard for them.

And don't even bring Weinstein into this - you're trying to make yourself into the victim of my contrary opinion here, and that's (frank)ing bullpoop. There are many folks who are misogynistic but have not assaulted women. You demean yourself with that comparison - You're better than that.

- lumlums

Seriously, Lums go take your sensitive guy act somewhere else.

I've coached women's hockey. I've coached girls' hockey for the past five years, and will be involved for the forseeable future. I've done more to advance women and girls in hockey thsn you ever will in your entire life, so feel free to drop your holier-than-thou attitude.

I held Jillian to the exact same standard as the other lazy writers on this board. To suggest that I went out of my way to target her based on her gender is patently false, and insulting to me.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 18 @ 8:47 PM ET
Are there examples of such? Sincere question.

When certain bloggers put out crap they get lambasted for it.

- david22


They do. But they get lambasted for offering meaningless opinions. Jillian got lambasted because everybody expected her to start shotgunning beers with random dudes and she didn't...
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Oct 18 @ 8:47 PM ET
Are there examples of such? Sincere question.

When certain bloggers put out crap they get lambasted for it.

- david22

I thought so too. Unless of course they say something in regards to being a woman in the comment
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Oct 18 @ 8:48 PM ET
They do. But they get lambasted for offering meaningless opinions. Jillian got lambasted because everybody expected her to start shotgunning beers with random dudes and she didn't...
- lumlums

I d be upset at man or woman for turning down beer
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Oct 18 @ 8:48 PM ET



Don’t tell Lums.

- Steven_Seagull

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 18 @ 8:51 PM ET
Lou, let's address the fact that the first female general hocley blogger for a few years was run off the boards because she was a female, and not because of hockey knowledge - she was expected to prove herself to a higher level and be more than just be a fan, while dudes can write bland nonsense.


You have a daughter - would you want her to write here with everybody knowing that she was female?

- lumlums

The woman who wrote about the Habs and women's hockey was very well received here - because she was a good writer and knew her poop.

See the difference?
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Oct 18 @ 8:51 PM ET
Score based reffing is the best reffing.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 18 @ 8:51 PM ET
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Oct 18 @ 8:51 PM ET
The woman who wrote about the Habs and women's hockey was very well received here - because she was a good writer and knew her poop.

See the difference?

- Atomic Wedgie

Tanner gets ripped on continually and he's a dude.
Barb34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.29.2017

Oct 18 @ 8:52 PM ET
I'm fed up with it. I've seen it in my own field, and it makes my skin crawl - and that (specifically listening to women who I respect immensely) has made it more obvious to me in hockey culture.
- lumlums


She didn't even blog for my team and I gave her the hits and read her blogs. She....wait I mean....that writer was better than most on here. I enjoyed her....I mean...I enjoyed said writer's blogs.

The problem for you is the (frank)ing twats on these boards....besides a handful ....are trolls talking poop.

That's an uphill battle my man.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 18 @ 8:52 PM ET
Score based reffing is the best reffing.
- markmark



What the hell was that.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 18 @ 8:52 PM ET
Seriously, Lums go take your sensitive guy act somewhere else.

I've coached women's hockey. I've coached girls' hockey for the past five years, and will be involved for the forseeable future. I've done more to advance women and girls in hockey thsn you ever will in your entire life, so feel free to drop your holier-than-thou attitude.

I held Jillian to the exact same standard as the other lazy writers on this board. To suggest that I went out of my way to target her based on her gender is patently false, and insulting to me.

- Atomic Wedgie


Perfect.

But unless you actually hold them to the same standard your empty actions mean (frank) all.

Hell, to randomly throw a Weinstein reference in there (like you did) - he cast women so surely he cares, right?

And as for allegedly insulting you, I frankly don't give a (frank). your criticism of other writers is based on their presentation of hockey, and your criticism of Jillian is based on her eating popcorn on film. So ask yourself who judges based on gender.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 18 @ 8:53 PM ET
Mcbackup lol
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Oct 18 @ 8:53 PM ET
So read back and reflect about why male bloggers haven't been criticised for offering things more meaningless than views of themselves eating popcorn. It's a double standard, and it's obvious.

I overemphasised my opposition of MiB to bring this into bring this double standard into focus - the fact that this criticism got picked up but not the gender issue is prrof of that.

EDIT: Hell, Jillian criticised one of Ek's posts and had hers edited and deleted. That's the standard of which I speak.

- lumlums


I think your eagerness to crusade for women's rights is causing you to lash out at people that may not deserve it.

I'll be honest, I only read a few of Jillian's blogs and lost interest. It wasn't because she's a woman, but because I simply wasn't that interested in the topic. If she was a third Leaf blogger I'd probably read 90% of her work. Am I a sexist now?

Maybe she did face some unfair criticism though. I don't know. I think you may be a little too eager to go after Wedgie though. You can't just decide on your own that anyone that criticizes a female blogger is doing so purely because they are sexist.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 18 @ 8:53 PM ET
Why didn’t Matthews get any 4 on 4 time?
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 18 @ 8:53 PM ET
Bozak sucks
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 18 @ 8:54 PM ET
Bozak sucks
- daeth



Yes. A lot.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 18 @ 8:54 PM ET
The woman who wrote about the Habs and women's hockey was very well received here - because she was a good writer and knew her poop.

See the difference?

- Atomic Wedgie


I do - she was expected to talk just hockey and she talked just hockey. I see exactly what you mean.
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