Excluding extreme, obscure or racing... keeping it mostly to team sports but still, I think Hockey is more expensive over a career to maintain than Golf.

A set of clubs is expensive but come on.

Helmet, shoulder and chest pads, elbow pads, gloves, jock-strap, cup, girdle, shin and knee pads, skates, stick for a legit hockey player, not a joe schmo buying the cheapest stuff at Richard's Sporting Goods, but an amatuer, semi-professional or professional hockey player, you're looking at close to 10k, if not more. Goalies probably double that.

About 15-20 sticks per season at 300-400 a pop doesn't run cheap, either.

Factor in upkeep, facility fees, team fees and travel x amount of games played, I don't even think it's close. And Der Kaiser is right with his post, actually.
- BeadyEyedDouche

If we're talking legit players. A set of clubs is easily $10K+ plus and you're going to need a new set every 2 or 3 years, greens fees for 5 or 6 days a week, plus a ball for every hole, you can't drive a scuffed ball and hope to learn anything, plus travel.

But when you're a legit hockey player or golfer most, if not all of that poop is paid for. In fact they probably pay you.

Excluding extreme, obscure or racing... keeping it mostly to team sports but still, I think Hockey is more expensive over a career to maintain than Golf.

A set of clubs is expensive but come on.

Helmet, shoulder and chest pads, elbow pads, gloves, jock-strap, cup, girdle, shin and knee pads, skates, stick for a legit hockey player, not a joe schmo buying the cheapest stuff at Richard's Sporting Goods, but an amatuer, semi-professional or professional hockey player, you're looking at close to 10k, if not more. Goalies probably double that.

About 15-20 sticks per season at 300-400 a pop doesn't run cheap, either.

Factor in upkeep, facility fees, team fees and travel x amount of games played, I don't even think it's close. And Der Kaiser is right with his post, actually.
- BeadyEyedDouche

7 rounds of golf a week

averages $40

6 beers a round, $30
Breakfast sandwich and coffee before the round, $10
Hooker on the side of the 8th fairway, $75
Grub after the round $20
dozen golf balls $25
box of naked lady tees, $9


$209 a day, close to $1500 a week

plus clubs and clothes


your move

If we're talking legit players. A set of clubs is easily $10K+ plus and you're going to need a new set every 2 or 3 years, greens fees for 5 or 6 days a week, plus a ball for every hole, you can't drive a scuffed ball and hope to learn anything, plus travel.

But when you're a legit hockey player or golfer most, if not all of that poop is paid for. In fact they probably pay you.
- Wetbandit1

Well, from what I've read, no.

Sean Avery, yes, that Sean Avery, wrote an article a few years ago and broke down where your contract money goes and why so many athletes end up broke.

Basically, about 33% taxed by the US Government, if you play in the States. IDK how Canada works.

So, a $999,999.99 contract becomes $666,666.66. Now, agent fees. 15%? We're looking at 125k. 541k left. Team, travel, trainer and facility fees. 400k left. 50k to the NHLPA. 350k left. 50k to the NHL itself. 300k left.

$300,000 dollars to invest in your life, after signing that 1 million dollar contract and that's if you're lucky. The vast majority of players don't have endorsements and while teams and players do get free stuff, that's not an entire set of equipment. House, vehicle, property taxes, mortgage, investments? Yikes.

Really, we female dog that they're over-paid, and they are, but they don't see over 50% of the "on paper" money, they don't even get to sniff it.

Auston Matthews: 6 goals and 10 points in seven games. He's off and running. The tank for Buffalo has been the most Buffalo thing ever. Eichel is sandwiched between two other players just running circles around him. It's (frank)ing sucks.

7 rounds of golf a week

averages $40

6 beers a round, $30
Breakfast sandwich and coffee before the round, $10
Hooker on the side of the 8th fairway, $75
Grub after the round $20
dozen golf balls $25
box of naked lady tees, $9


$209 a day, close to $1500 a week

plus clubs and clothes


your move
- homiedclown

See: above post.

Auston Matthews: 6 goals and 10 points in seven games. He's off and running. The tank for Buffalo has been the most Buffalo thing ever. Eichel is sandwiched between two other players just running circles around him. It's (frank)ing sucks.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Jack has 9 points in 7 games?

Auston Matthews: 6 goals and 10 points in seven games. He's off and running. The tank for Buffalo has been the most Buffalo thing ever. Eichel is sandwiched between two other players just running circles around him. It's (frank)ing sucks.
- Buffalo--Sabres

McDavid 6 points 5 games.

Non-sense.

hatty

Jack has 9 points in 7 games?
- BeadyEyedDouche

he's no Will Butcher


9 points in 6 games

McDavid 6 points 5 games.

Non-sense.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Draisaitl 1 goal this year
Skunk 2 goals

Jack has 9 points in 7 games?
- BeadyEyedDouche

It's a very small circle that he's running around Jack.

It's a very small circle that he's running around Jack.
- JetpackJesus

More like a small triangle.

he's no Will Butcher


9 points in 6 games
- homiedclown

we lost the lottery twice and in more ways than one each time.

we lost the lottery twice and in more ways than one each time.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Vesey
0 points in 2017-18 season

Vesey
0 points in 2017-18 season
- homiedclown

Clown - stop with the FACTS!

Jack has 9 points in 7 games?
- BeadyEyedDouche

Add in the fact that jack has a bunch of scrubs below the first line (to take any pressure off them)and it’s even more impressive imho.

Put jack on Toronto and he might have 20 points already...

Clown - stop with the FACTS!
- SabreWest

tyler myers leads the jets with a +6
kulikov is second with +4


armia is their worst forward with a -3

pysyk is the worst panther with a -6

ror has 4 points and is a -5

jt compher has 3 points and a +1



zads has as many points as every sabre d man combined not named risto(2)

tyler myers leads the jets with a +6
kulikov is second with +4


armia is their worst forward with a -3
- homiedclown

I overheard the Walrus on the radio say Risto might be in the Tyler Myers category as in we've already seen his best work.............

Fun fact

Buffalo has 3 players in the top 20 in scoring in the nhl....

Toronto has 1.

I overheard the Walrus on the radio say Risto might be in the Tyler Myers category as in we've already seen his best work.............
- dadeadhead

wouldn't surprise me

same for mccabe

Golf vs hockey... You cant be serious. Its not even close.
We are talking kids growing up learning and becoming good enough to make it as a pro. You dont need expensive clubs or balls or membership to learn how to hit the middle of the club face and shape shots. Clubs, a few bucks used. I used to walk the woods at th course and find a hundred ballsa day. Membership at a muni course for a kid, $200 per year. In golf there are no politics involved (which was brought up before) if you go shoot 65 every day you will be on the pga tour no matter how you get it done. There is zero ambiguity or opinion involved.... Show me the scorecard and thats all that matters.
Hockey has so much politics involved its ridiculous. And To play against top competetion to the point where you get noticed without politics is unbelieveably expensive. How this even became a point of contention is beyond me. This is angument you cannot win if you think golf is anywher near as expensive as hockey in any sense of the word.
Try me. I can play devils advocate with the best of them... But dont even need to in this case. Between gas, ice time, and a hotel room you could spend more in one weekend taking your kid to play hockey that i could in a whole year having my kid play golf.

Fun fact

Buffalo has 3 players in the top 20 in scoring in the nhl....

Toronto has 1.
- gordong

but rielly or zaitsev, take your pick, has as many points as all of our d men