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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 17 @ 6:05 PM ET
In a cap world you don't have time to sit on your hands though. When your window opens you have to play in the now.

I don't even know that we ever win a cup, but I do know that what we have now is our window. People talk about McDavid and LD, but Talbot is the key for me. The goaltending he showed us last year is what will help us win a cup. How long is that goaltending going to last? 2-3 years? Maybe LB will cominh in and better someday, but (frank) someday. That's what this team banked on for years was slow and steady doing nothing while everyone else passed us.

- Lahey


Oilers were Grossly mismanaged for the better part of a decade, though. Hard to blame the process when the process didn't really exist. For a long time the Oilers had no clear plan. They just lost games and fired coaches over and over again.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
Klef is a number one imo. Not elite but definitely a top 31 dman in the league.

Larsson is a second pair guy. To be a top pair guy you need at least a little offensive ability. To me he and Sekera would make a great second pair. Nurse and Benning 3rd. We still need a rh two way guy for top pair imo.

- Iggysbff

I'd have to look, but even I said he was the 31st guy. I'm more wondering if he can be a top 10 guy. If he gets into that top 10 or elite status then things drastically change for this club.

I don't know that I agree about Larsson not being a top pairing guy. Look at who was playing top pairing in PIT last playoffs. Dumolin and Hainsey. In fact look at the offense. Schultz 13 in 25 then Cole with 9 points.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 17 @ 6:07 PM ET
I'd have to look, but even I said he was the 31st guy. I'm more wondering if he can be a top 10 guy. If he gets into that top 10 or elite status then things drastically change for this club.

I don't know that I agree about Larsson not being a top pairing guy. Look at who was playing top pairing in PIT last playoffs. Dumolin and Hainsey. In fact look at the offense. Schultz 13 in 25 then Cole with 9 points.

- Lahey


Pittsburgh had no business getting by Washington.

they did that on skill and pure dumb luck.
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Oct 17 @ 6:08 PM ET
Please - no one could predict injuries...
- saskoil21


But last year was the outlier, I don't know how so many people were blind to the fact we were injury free to all key personnel last year, and the odds of that happening again this year were infinitesimal, especially considering our injury history.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 6:09 PM ET
You can have Faulk in... Two years.
- BINGO!

Just when we can no longer afford him. Perfect
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Oct 17 @ 6:12 PM ET
I'd have to look, but even I said he was the 31st guy. I'm more wondering if he can be a top 10 guy. If he gets into that top 10 or elite status then things drastically change for this club.

I don't know that I agree about Larsson not being a top pairing guy. Look at who was playing top pairing in PIT last playoffs. Dumolin and Hainsey. In fact look at the offense. Schultz 13 in 25 then Cole with 9 points.

- Lahey

Top pairing is pretty loosely defined these days. As an example, it's my opinion that Hjalmarsson in his Chicago days is a "top pairing guy" in the sense that he plays and performs well while facing the best the opposition has to throw at him. However, to some he's a "second pairing guy".

Despite the difference in title, it's likely agreed upon that he's at least as valuable as a top pairing guy and likely more important than Seabrook is (to further the Blackhawks comp).
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Oct 17 @ 6:21 PM ET
Pittsburgh had no business getting by Washington.

they did that on skill and pure dumb luck.

- BINGO!


Goaltending stole that series for them two years in a row.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Oct 17 @ 6:27 PM ET
Top pairing is pretty loosely defined these days. As an example, it's my opinion that Hjalmarsson in his Chicago days is a "top pairing guy" in the sense that he plays and performs well while facing the best the opposition has to throw at him. However, to some he's a "second pairing guy".

Despite the difference in title, it's likely agreed upon that he's at least as valuable as a top pairing guy and likely more important than Seabrook is (to further the Blackhawks comp).

- MaximumBone


To me I don't really get too hung up on is a guy a 2 or 3. Most in that range are interchangeable.
Both important. Larsson has a role here for sure just as Hjalmarsson did in Chicago. But we only have one and not the other. If we had Larsson and a "Seabrooke type" as well we'd be much better off.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Oct 17 @ 6:45 PM ET
To me I don't really get too hung up on is a guy a 2 or 3. Most in that range are interchangeable.
Both important. Larsson has a role here for sure just as Hjalmarsson did in Chicago. But we only have one and not the other. If we had Larsson and a "Seabrooke type" as well we'd be much better off.

- Iggysbff

I'd argue that Sekera is pretty close to that Seabrook-type. Not a direct comparable but close enough.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Oct 17 @ 6:53 PM ET
Two teams struggling for offense means one's bound to break out tonight. Considering the depth the Canes are rolling, likely safe to assume it'll be them.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 6:57 PM ET
Two teams struggling for offense means one's bound to break out tonight. Considering the depth the Canes are rolling, likely safe to assume it'll be them.
- MaximumBone

Yep

Canes lack of star power is made up for quality depth and some really underrated players.
U add a stud forward to that group and they’d be a beast.

The met is so good, but I still think they’re a playoff team
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 17 @ 6:58 PM ET
Yep

Canes lack of star power is made up for quality depth and some really underrated players.
U add a stud forward to that group and they’d be a beast.

The met is so good, but I still think they’re a playoff team

- HB77


Hope is that Necas can be that guy. He was way, way better than what anyone anticipated at training camp.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 7:00 PM ET
Hope is that Necas can be that guy. He was way, way better than what anyone anticipated at training camp.
- BINGO!

I was just gonna say aho might be...
(Turn into a superstar I mean. He’s already hella good)

Don’t know a thing about necas
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Oct 17 @ 7:51 PM ET
#FreeJero
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Oct 17 @ 7:53 PM ET
😂

When we’re 20 games in, I hope to be back to jumpin on his dik



Side note- just sat through a 2 hr lecture and don’t think I heard one word my prof said. Thanks for nothing hockeybuzz

- HB77


Hopefully I can say the same in 20 games, but honestly, after that Eberle trade and the Russell signing..... Just not some good asset management in my opinion.

As for your side note,
That's the power of Hockeybuzz!
What are you majoring in atm if you mind me asking?

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 8:00 PM ET
Hopefully I can say the same in 20 games, but honestly, after that Eberle trade and the Russell signing..... Just not some good asset management in my opinion.

As for your side note,
That's the power of Hockeybuzz!
What are you majoring in atm if you mind me asking?

- EdmHockeyMan
environmental science
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Oct 17 @ 8:06 PM ET
environmental science
- HB77



Green technology, Elon Musk, warm oceans, Al Gore. There, I caught you up on your lecture.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Oct 17 @ 8:10 PM ET
Klef is a number one imo. Not elite but definitely a top 31 dman in the league.

Larsson is a second pair guy. To be a top pair guy you need at least a little offensive ability. To me he and Sekera would make a great second pair. Nurse and Benning 3rd. We still need a rh two way guy for top pair imo.

- Iggysbff


The good thing about both defenders is that, IMO, they still have room to grow. They are still young, they both have fantastic contracts, and they are on a team where they are given opportunities to do so.

As for Klefbom, last season truly showed just how good he is. He is definitely a #1 defender in my point of view.

As for Larsson, respectively, I still see him as a #2 defender. He has that offensive ability (it ain't flashy, but rather "gets the job done") to be able to post 30 and possibly plateau at 40 if he is given PP time (our PP as of this season is 8.3% so far; something has got to click or McLellan better be making some changes and putting Larsson out there; he has been quite active offensively as of late) and more offensive zone starts. Even plateauing at 30 points given his profile and conditions is still great for a top pair defender. Is he worth Hall if that is the case, nope. Still unbelievable that Subban got traded away the same day we traded Hall (which was who a lot of people thought Hall should have fetched), but that is old news.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 8:14 PM ET
Green technology, Elon Musk, warm oceans, Al Gore. There, I caught you up on your lecture.
- smellmyfinger

Lol

Don’t conflate subjective social sciences with objective actual science
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Oct 17 @ 8:17 PM ET
Lol

Don’t conflate subjective social sciences with objective actual science

- HB77



That and i forgot to say sustainability
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Oct 17 @ 8:20 PM ET
Green technology, Elon Musk, warm oceans, Al Gore. There, I caught you up on your lecture.
- smellmyfinger


Hehe, more like





HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 8:22 PM ET
That and i forgot to say sustainability
- smellmyfinger

Yep. U did
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Oct 17 @ 8:22 PM ET
environmental science
- HB77


Sounds like heaps of fun. You planning on doing masters after undergrad or straight to the workforce?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 8:28 PM ET
Sounds like heaps of fun. You planning on doing masters after undergrad or straight to the workforce?
- EdmHockeyMan

Masters in land use management or resource and environmental
Planning probably

Not sure tho. Might see what offers I get first
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Oct 17 @ 8:36 PM ET
Masters in land use management or resource and environmental
Planning probably

Not sure tho. Might see what offers I get first

- HB77


Knew a cousin who did an undergrad in Political Science and then did a masters in land use management with a focus on asset prioritization or safety or whatever you wanna call it. Finished the masters in 2 years and safe to say, he is now working in a government position as a project asset analyst or whatever you guys call it. Seems pretty good to me. Benefits, job security, and a good salary.

Needlesstosay, if I were you, do the masters. I've been hearing nothing but good things about doing a masters. Its only 2 years unlike a PH.D and it greatly increases your chances of employment and you get a bigger salary too.
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