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RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Oct 16 @ 12:14 AM ET
Every game counts. It's not like they're playing that bad, but putting the puck into the chest of the goalie isn't helping.
- Fenrir

They are playing bad hockey for way too many minutes per game. They seem to not care at times, and play risky hockey, in especially making defensive zone giveaway errors. Their bad also includes them not playing for a full 60 minutes. Their shooting of some pucks directly into the goalie's chest is plain "bad" shooting, or due to other forwards not creating havoc in front, in not crashing the offensive crease area enough to make screens, deflections, & create rebound attempts.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Oct 16 @ 12:21 AM ET
No puck luck, bad bounces, whatever you want to say its about results & right now they're not getting them. I do wish it was 25/30 years ago & we could dress some tough guys & they stir sh!t up for a few shifts, we do need some sandpaper element in the lineup cause this team is too vanilla.
- B2B76

You have to create your own puck luck offensively by getting shots to the net with traffic in front, along with creating havoc at the crease. They rarely do so, in part due to not having the types of players that can, & who are willing to sacrifice their body if necessary in the offensive zone. They don't shoot enough when able to, especially when in between the circles from less than 40 feet out, and opt to pass the puck to the sideboards for poorer angle type shots, many of which hit the goalie right in the chest for a face off, instead of a rebound attempt(s).
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Oct 16 @ 12:22 AM ET
how nice ... its gm 6 Jan has been out all week and instead of diagnosing the major holes in the lineup and such..... he focuses on the lynch mob mentality brewing... well its always brewing ...churning..fishing for barbs to hook the victim with...Now its A V's turn in the barrel
i have never seen a NYR coach EVERYONE likes or wants...
I still dont see a complete game effort for 60 min.
last gm the after Nashs goal we laid down for the rest of the period and alot of the 3rd... till down 3-1
gm before fri. HANK gives up a deflect goal of Z bad 's leg.. we fell apart
3rd period was a blitz krieg for Columbus coming in waves ...
Our goalies keep gettin outplayed ,,how bout a stand on your head nite ..Eh !!!!
Gorts & SLats have sat on there thumbs not filling the depth with centers
SHyte ..Johansssen from Wash for 2 #2 picks ..W T F why didnt we get him?
we could have used almost anyone.... Derharnais ? already showing signs ...
Not sold on line up & i dont think team is either ..
D'A ... take his time ... send down & diffuse the situation
D is all the same puffs .. not real tough & lettin them fly sown middle
A Panarin ? walk thru the roses ? terrible goal we gave up after assault after assualt was hittin us ...
A V cant fix a flat lineup not confident and waitn to get beat right now ...
A V should get 20 gm with out reproach not 6 of which half look liked Pre season games ...alot of mistake s on ice is AV making the T O's or boo boo's to let guys wide open ? give the man a chance to breath and fix this..
do we want a good season with P O implications
or do we want to throw out the coach & re build on the fly..no way
team needs players up the middle not new coaches ...L G R

- Dundee13

Let's see:
I called out AV, Gorton and Sather. Took to task the performance of nearly every player in the lineup, save for a precious few. Please stop the argument that all of this is caused due to the players up the middle, it's getting tiresome and not everything is due to the lack of centers. It would be great if they had four studs, but to say it's because of the lack of pivotmen is shortsighted and misses every other issue.

In terms of "Jan has been out all week and instead of diagnosing the major holes in the lineup and such," don't let facts ruin a good rhetoric. I wrote blogs Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, then posted one after the holiday ended last night. I pointed out the flaws, yet didn't feel that the lack of a pivotman is causing all the issues. I also said I wouldn't fire AV, just pointed out what the general view is and also that the constant changes haven't helped, which could be caused by Gorton's roster construction.

But hey, keep taking potshots.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Oct 16 @ 12:26 AM ET
The fact that it was originally called a TD & then the officials reversed it & said it was a fumble & touchback, Pats ball on the 20 I really was speechless. Even Dan Fouts who's usually very vanilla said that was one of the worst calls he ever saw & made no sense. "Paralysis by analysis" he said which was spot on. WTF were they looking at?!
- B2B76

The Patriots in regards to reffing or league ruling matters are the Penguins of the NHL. Just ask Tortorella as to why.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Oct 16 @ 12:33 AM ET
how nice ... its gm 6 Jan has been out all week and instead of diagnosing the major holes in the lineup and such..... he focuses on the lynch mob mentality brewing... well its always brewing ...churning..fishing for barbs to hook the victim with...Now its A V's turn in the barrel
i have never seen a NYR coach EVERYONE likes or wants...
I still dont see a complete game effort for 60 min.
last gm the after Nashs goal we laid down for the rest of the period and alot of the 3rd... till down 3-1
gm before fri. HANK gives up a deflect goal of Z bad 's leg.. we fell apart
3rd period was a blitz krieg for Columbus coming in waves ...
Our goalies keep gettin outplayed ,,how bout a stand on your head nite ..Eh !!!!
Gorts & SLats have sat on there thumbs not filling the depth with centers
SHyte ..Johansssen from Wash for 2 #2 picks ..W T F why didnt we get him?
we could have used almost anyone.... Derharnais ? already showing signs ...
Not sold on line up & i dont think team is either ..
D'A ... take his time ... send down & diffuse the situation
D is all the same puffs .. not real tough & lettin them fly sown middle
A Panarin ? walk thru the roses ? terrible goal we gave up after assault after assualt was hittin us ...
A V cant fix a flat lineup not confident and waitn to get beat right now ...
A V should get 20 gm with out reproach not 6 of which half look liked Pre season games ...alot of mistake s on ice is AV making the T O's or boo boo's to let guys wide open ? give the man a chance to breath and fix this..
do we want a good season with P O implications
or do we want to throw out the coach & re build on the fly..no way
team needs players up the middle not new coaches ...L G R

- Dundee13

That's cruel in taking your Rangers frustration shots out on Jan, without reading his blog here in full, as well as his prior one. He also said in some words during that prior blog that he would leave the blog for us to run, while he would be out until late Saturday or early Sunday. He kept to his words, and told it like it is with this mess here in the Rangers.
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Oct 16 @ 12:55 AM ET
How long have we waited for Kreider to become that power forward he shows glimpses of?
- Fenrir

Never gonna happen, he's the latest in a long line of homegrown players who never reached full potential, Dubi, Cally, Step, its Kreider's turn
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 16 @ 9:09 AM ET
I think the players have to figure it out themselves. Gorton shouldn't panic and start trading away picks or young players. Just roll with what they have and if at the deadline they are still bad, start trading off some of the vets, Nash. Holden, etc. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to get a very high pick next year. I think they will turn it around, but AV needs to make set lines and stick to it.

They have shown in all most every game that they can compete. Set up 4 constant lines and get rid of the dumb 7th defenceman and things will turn around.
Dundee13
New York Rangers
Joined: 08.12.2014

Oct 16 @ 9:30 AM ET
Let's see:
I called out AV, Gorton and Sather. Took to task the performance of nearly every player in the lineup, save for a precious few. Please stop the argument that all of this is caused due to the players up the middle, it's getting tiresome and not everything is due to the lack of centers. It would be great if they had four studs, but to say it's because of the lack of pivotmen is shortsighted and misses every other issue.

In terms of "Jan has been out all week and instead of diagnosing the major holes in the lineup and such," don't let facts ruin a good rhetoric. I wrote blogs Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, then posted one after the holiday ended last night. I pointed out the flaws, yet didn't feel that the lack of a pivotman is causing all the issues. I also said I wouldn't fire AV, just pointed out what the general view is and also that the constant changes haven't helped, which could be caused by Gorton's roster construction.

But hey, keep taking potshots.

- airjan23


hey the title of the article should have sent red flags to you whne you sat back
and reviewed your work ..starting with the A v in hot seat ..
sounds like the NY Post and there inflammatory yet premature titles on papers ... questions?
maybe your own agenda is leaking in here .....
Headlines maybe.. alot of info but you premised with A V
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Oct 16 @ 9:41 AM ET
I think the players have to figure it out themselves. Gorton shouldn't panic and start trading away picks or young players. Just roll with what they have and if at the deadline they are still bad, start trading off some of the vets, Nash. Holden, etc. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to get a very high pick next year. I think they will turn it around, but AV needs to make set lines and stick to it.

They have shown in all most every game that they can compete. Set up 4 constant lines and get rid of the dumb 7th defenceman and things will turn around.

- mdw7413



this is what bothers me the most about AV. too (frank)ing fidgety
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 16 @ 9:54 AM ET
this is what bothers me the most about AV. too (frank)ing fidgety
- mrn22


Yup.

Also need to get Lettieri up here if they don't want Chytil up here. Dude is a center, and has more energy than 3/4 of the team right now. Get rid of the dumb (frank)ing 7 d-men
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Oct 16 @ 9:57 AM ET
hey the title of the article should have sent red flags to you whne you sat back
and reviewed your work ..starting with the A v in hot seat ..
sounds like the NY Post and there inflammatory yet premature titles on papers ... questions?
maybe your own agenda is leaking in here .....
Headlines maybe.. alot of info but you premised with A V

- Dundee13

If you had paid attention to my blogs, I don’t have an agenda. I call it as I see it both ways. It’s says drumbeats getting louder among fan base, it didn’t say I feel AV should be fired. Big difference.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Oct 16 @ 10:06 AM ET
If you had paid attention to my blogs, I don’t have an agenda. I call it as I see it both ways. It’s says drumbeats getting louder among fan base, it didn’t say I feel AV should be fired. Big difference.
- airjan23



I understood Jan, great blog!
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 16 @ 10:14 AM ET
If you had paid attention to my blogs, I don’t have an agenda. I call it as I see it both ways. It’s says drumbeats getting louder among fan base, it didn’t say I feel AV should be fired. Big difference.
- airjan23


What is this, the start of AV's 5th year?

If you are a coach in NYC and start the season 1-5 there are going to be rumblings.

Especially cause they hired Ruff over the summer.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Oct 16 @ 10:36 AM ET
Yup.

Also need to get Lettieri up here if they don't want Chytil up here. Dude is a center, and has more energy than 3/4 of the team right now. Get rid of the dumb (frank)ing 7 d-men

- mdw7413


ya that 7th d bullpoop just screams they have no (frank)ing clue what they wanna do.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Oct 16 @ 10:37 AM ET
What is this, the start of AV's 5th year?

If you are a coach in NYC and start the season 1-5 there are going to be rumblings.

Especially cause they hired Ruff over the summer.

- mdw7413


idk what the answer is for a new coach but I sure hope its not Lindy Ruff guys like him and hitchcock are too stuck in their ways for the new NHL.

What sucks is AV's style should work for the current times but his player usage is what kills
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 16 @ 10:40 AM ET
idk what the answer is for a new coach but I sure hope its not Lindy Ruff guys like him and hitchcock are too stuck in their ways for the new NHL.

What sucks is AV's style should work for the current times but his player usage is what kills

- mrn22


Bingo.

I also agree, don't think Ruff would be the answer.
AmazingSav
New York Rangers
Location: Unfortunately Philly, PA
Joined: 06.23.2014

Oct 16 @ 11:06 AM ET
Bingo.

I also agree, don't think Ruff would be the answer.

- mdw7413


Agreed. HOWEVER, this is still not looking at the consistent lack of being prepared to play, which has spanned this team for a few seasons now. As you mentioned in the past the players need to look at themselves for this. But if thats not working then the coaches need to step in. If that doesn't work still somethings gotta give.

I personally would want to at least start with line consistency with 12 and 6 for a stretch. Maybe bring up Boo and/or Litteri, then go from there.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Oct 16 @ 11:09 AM ET
Agreed. HOWEVER, this is still not looking at the consistent lack of being prepared to play, which has spanned this team for a few seasons now. As you mentioned in the past the players need to look at themselves for this. But if thats not working then the coaches need to step in. If that doesn't work still somethings gotta give.

I personally would want to at least start with line consistency with 12 and 6 for a stretch. Maybe bring up Boo and/or Litteri, then go from there.

- AmazingSav


they need to be done with Carey and Cracknell at the very least. I know DD is not the most popular guy around here and him playing with Nash is (frank)ing stupid but I can at least see his value as a 4c.. the other guys gotta go, let our young kids get some looks
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Oct 16 @ 11:13 AM ET
idk what the answer is for a new coach but I sure hope its not Lindy Ruff guys like him and hitchcock are too stuck in their ways for the new NHL.

What sucks is AV's style should work for the current times but his player usage is what kills

- mrn22

You're right about Ruff and Hitch. Maybe Ted Nolan?
AmazingSav
New York Rangers
Location: Unfortunately Philly, PA
Joined: 06.23.2014

Oct 16 @ 11:15 AM ET
You're right about Ruff and Hitch. Maybe Ted Nolan?
- Fenrir


You shut your filthy mouth. Thats not even funny.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Oct 16 @ 11:16 AM ET
You shut your filthy mouth. Thats not even funny.
- AmazingSav


You're right, Gorton might get that idea.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 16 @ 11:17 AM ET
hey the title of the article should have sent red flags to you whne you sat back
and reviewed your work ..starting with the A v in hot seat ..
sounds like the NY Post and there inflammatory yet premature titles on papers ... questions?
maybe your own agenda is leaking in here .....
Headlines maybe.. alot of info but you premised with A V

- Dundee13


How does that old saying go? If you can't say something nice, shut the f#ck up.
I've generally left you alone with your unintelligible comments, but right now I don't care whether you're handicapped, stoned, ESL or 11 years old. Jan provides us with steady, level-headed and timely insight into what is going on with the Rangers and perhaps more importantly, a forum on which to share our view points and engage with others who share our excitement for all things NYR.
If you just want to make your self feel superior by taking cheap shots at someone, grow a pair of balls and go outside and do it in person instead of from the safety of your keyboard, because no one here wants to hear it.

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 16 @ 11:19 AM ET
they need to be done with Carey and Cracknell at the very least. I know DD is not the most popular guy around here and him playing with Nash is (frank)ing stupid but I can at least see his value as a 4c.. the other guys gotta go, let our young kids get some looks
- mrn22


I have no issue with Desharman on the 4th with no PP time.

Don't even really need young guys. Just need one center from the Pack and they have a full lineup.
disorca
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 07.01.2015

Oct 16 @ 11:33 AM ET
Kreider , Miller, Hayes, Vesey, Buchnevich are better suited on 3rd & 4th lines. we have no talent
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Oct 16 @ 11:59 AM ET
How does that old saying go? If you can't say something nice, shut the f#ck up.
I've generally left you alone with your unintelligible comments, but right now I don't care whether you're handicapped, stoned, ESL or 11 years old. Jan provides us with steady, level-headed and timely insight into what is going on with the Rangers and perhaps more importantly, a forum on which to share our view points and engage with others who share our excitement for all things NYR.
If you just want to make your self feel superior by taking cheap shots at someone, grow a pair of balls and go outside and do it in person instead of from the safety of your keyboard, because no one here wants to hear it.


- Tonybere



This escalated quickly.
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