Not going to get into, but even if you disagree, I think you can see why people with morals would be upset.
- james_tanner1

A comment like that insinuates that people who are not upset do not have morals.
Again, not true, and again showing your political bias.

Why arent the same people who claim to be morally upset with Trump at his comments also upset at those who are not respectful of the national anthem, and why are they not upset at the perps who refuse to listen to the police ? Instead we blame the police officers who routinely put themselves in harms way. That doesn't mean there isnt a bad apple among the millions of good police officers out there, but again you cant even agree to disagree with people without finding a way to slam those who disagree (by insinuating they lack morals). Get over yourself. Those who support Trump are not necessarily racist and those who do not are not morally better than those who do.
Stick to hockey please

A comment like that insinuates that people who are not upset do not have morals.
Again, not true, and again showing your political bias.

Why arent the same people who claim to be morally upset with Trump at his comments also upset at those who are not respectful of the national anthem, and why are they not upset at the perps who refuse to listen to the police ? Instead we blame the police officers who routinely put themselves in harms way. That doesn't mean there isnt a bad apple among the millions of good police officers out there, but again you cant even agree to disagree with people without finding a way to slam those who disagree (by insinuating they lack morals). Get over yourself. Those who support Trump are not necessarily racist and those who do not are not morally better than those who do.
Stick to hockey please
- Amanion

PM and I'll be happy to answer any questions you have/.

Holy fvck 2 days later n u spit this mumble jumble, par for the course danny tanner

Not going to get into, but even if you disagree, I think you can see why people with morals would be upset.
- james_tanner1

This might be the most insulting, boorish thing I've ever read on this site. How narrow minded to think that someone who doesn't agree with a team visiting a building as a sign of respect makes them without morals.

James, we don't agree on a lot of things, but this is just straight up insulting, and I don't like Donald Trump or his politics at all.

And whats wrong with that James? Whats wrong with visiting the White House?
You media types act like its some heinous crime for the Penguins or anyone else to NOT viscerally hate Trump.
1) its about RESPECT for the office, not necessarily the man occupying it. You people were furious when Tim Thomas skipped meeting Obama because he didnt agree with his politics. Then, it was about respecting the office. Now when the Pens respect the office, you demand they skip because YOU hate Trump yourself.
2) I find it hypocritical that the media took issue with Tim Tebow for kneeling and praying after a score, but has ZERO issue with spoiled millionaire football players taking a knee during the National Anthem.
3) Who do you hate more, the Penguins or Trump???
- Amanion

Who had a (frank)ing problem with Tebow?
Most found it humourus not offensive. The other aspect was that he wasn't doing it in protest of Christians being held down by the man. So not really the same thing.

Who had a (frank)ing problem with Tebow?
Most found it humourus not offensive. The other aspect was that he wasn't doing it in protest of Christians being held down by the man. So not really the same thing.
- mlindsay

NFL threatened to fine him if he didn't stand....

NFL threatened to fine him if he didn't stand....
- Tfaehner

NFL was penalizing touchdown celebrations at the time.

Tanner weren't you a Coyotes fan? You sure know how to pick the losers.

NFL was penalizing touchdown celebrations at the time.
- BINGO!

the nfl typically doesn't care for any kind of individual player expression.

This might be the most insulting, boorish thing I've ever read on this site. How narrow minded to think that someone who doesn't agree with a team visiting a building as a sign of respect makes them without morals.

James, we don't agree on a lot of things, but this is just straight up insulting, and I don't like Donald Trump or his politics at all.
- jmatchett383

Hey you don't have to like what I say or agree with it. That's the beauty of being a free thinking individual.

Hey you don't have to like what I say or agree with it. That's the beauty of being a free thinking individual.
- james_tanner1

cool story bro

Hey you don't have to like what I say or agree with it. That's the beauty of being a free thinking individual.
- james_tanner1

The irony here...

The fact that you get paid to say what you just did is ludicrous. You are a narrow minded petulant brat, and the fact that you dont feel any shame is mind boggling.

The irony here...

The fact that you get paid to say what you just did is ludicrous. You are a narrow minded petulant brat, and the fact that you dont feel any shame is mind boggling.
- jmatchett383

But he totally destroys Drumpf on the reg bro.

But he totally destroys Drumpf on the reg bro.
- smellmyfinger

that's cause he's the greatest hero the world has ever seen

that's cause he's the greatest hero the world has ever seen
- Tumbleweed

He's not the hero HB deserves, but the one it needs.

He's not the hero HB deserves, but the one it needs.
- smellmyfinger

our very own passive-aggressive political freedom fighter. attempting to eliminate free thought, one-key stroke at a time.

our very own passive-aggressive political freedom fighter. attempting to eliminate free thought, one-key stroke at a time.
- Tumbleweed

Remember, goals scored are a social construct.

Remember, goals scored are a social construct.
- smellmyfinger

our very own passive-aggressive political freedom fighter. attempting to eliminate free thought, one-key stroke at a time.
- Tumbleweed

We can have free thought, as long as we agree with him. If we don't, then we're ammoral people. Hmmm...putting people on one of 2 sides based on a choice they make...reminds me a lot of a current US politician...

We can have free thought, as long as we agree with him. If we don't, then we're ammoral people. Hmmm...putting people on one of 2 sides based on a choice they make...reminds me a lot of a current US politician...
- jmatchett383

Oooh, ooooh it's Kid Rock isn't it?

Looks like I figured out how to melt a conservative snowflake.

Now that is irony.

Why arent the same people who claim to be morally upset with Trump at his comments also upset at those who are not respectful of the national anthem
- Amanion

These two things are not related in the slightest. One has to do with a President who's morals come into question because he does not condemn white supremacists and marginalizes minorities & immigrants, and the other has to do with people questioning patriotism in regards to the anthem thing.

Get your arguments straight if you want to attempt to win one.

FYI, I'm neither Republican nor Democrat and the way I see it, a terrible person is a terrible person. If someone is actually still supporting Trump, they either have their heads so far stuck in partisan politics they might as well just sign an automatic renewal to the Republican party, or they're just sore that the Dems had a two-term president they couldn't defeat.

We've sadly reached such a perversion of our system in this country that to support it gets viewed like redneck patriotism and protesting is looked at as treason.

Republicans didn't seem to give a hoot when certain members of congress did not stand for Obama during the state of the union... Noooo, that's ok to do it where laws are actually made, but during a football game? TREASON!

You know why I didn't care when they tried to disrespect Obama? BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF OUR COUNTRY'S DNA!

The beauty of our country is that you can love it at it's core despite how bad things are while telling it to go eff itself at the same time. Kind of like how we feel about family members lol

Neal before Zod!

People who don't respect their president, no matter what mistakes he makes, are not worthy of living in a country. The sjw crap response at every fart Trump lets has to stop, it's destroying more than doing good.

These two things are not related in the slightest. One has to do with a President who's morals come into question because he does not condemn white supremacists and marginalizes minorities & immigrants, and the other has to do with people questioning patriotism in regards to the anthem thing.

Get your arguments straight if you want to attempt to win one.

FYI, I'm neither Republican nor Democrat and the way I see it, a terrible person is a terrible person. If someone is actually still supporting Trump, they either have their heads so far stuck in partisan politics they might as well just sign an automatic renewal to the Republican party, or they're just sore that the Dems had a two-term president they couldn't defeat.

- Rinosaur

The way I see it you either are uninformed or just choose to ignore the facts. Support or don't support whoever you want but don't label or criticize those that do based on ignorance.

http://www.latimes.com/po...1502728449-htmlstory.html

"The Department of Justice has opened a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that killed one innocent Americans and wounded 20 others. To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend’s racist violence, you will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered. As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence. It has no place in America. And as I have said many times before, no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws. We all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same Almighty God. We must love each other, show affection for each other and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry and violence. We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.

Racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans. We are a nation founded on the truth that all of us are created equal. We are equal in the eyes of our Creator. We are equal under the law. And we are equal under our Constitution."

Donald J. Trump

As someone who is somewhere between a moderate conservative and a classical liberal, what I have seen since Obama was first elected, to now, has shown me how absolutely insidious and divisive the left has become. The far left has even overrun normal moderate liberals that you can have a conversation with. They are falling all over themselves to make Trump look bad, but are making those of us in the middle here see them for what they really are. Do you really want our future to be what you are seeing on the UC Berkeley campus? Is that desirable to you? Because that is where we are headed.

In the past I was naive, I went to a liberal arts school, I voted for Obama. I fell for it all and was programmed to think a certain way. Over the past decade, I eventually opened a small business, traveled the USA and abroad, and was exposed to many different world views, that evolved and augmented my own. I started challenging things that were held as concrete and as a business person started asking pragmatic questions about liberal policies. I looked at the fiscal side of what we are doing here in the country. I started looking at who the beneficiaries of the TPP was and how we are going to support these policies long term. Over time, I started having a little bit of a different viewpoint, even though the core of what I felt about human rights is still the same.

You know what I got from most of my liberal "friends" and family when I tried having these discussions? Shouted - even screamed down and labeled terrible things. Agree with me or you are a “racist” or a “Nazi”?

Absolutely no racist, nor have I ever been, I just disagree. In my opinion if you inaccurately label a good person something vile, with no actual evidence, just to "win", you are a terrible person.

I often see people use the handy Asimov quote: “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” To insinuate their opinion/analysis is more evolved than others, and therefor they don’t even have to take it into consideration. This is what the left is doing when they divisively use racial and moral twisting of meanings to win arguments they wouldn’t otherwise.

James - you, yourself said something on here I thought was quite profound; it was that no matter what your opinion is, there is someone out there that is more intelligent than you with an alternative one.

In my opinion, arrogance in thinking is just as dangerous and irresponsible as ignorance.

Some of us that have totally different views than you politically still enjoy reading what you write, but when you carelessly paint all people of certain viewpoint with a certain brush, it is insulting to us and we don’t care for it. I would personally appreciate it if you took that more into consideration when you infer who is where on your own conception of a moral or intellectual scale.