I 100% disagree, I've seen him shoot in crazy tight space and still managed to score. and yes easily top 10 in the league.
- Maverick1818

his shot totals don't come anywhere near the top guys in the league.

if you can't get your shot off, your not top 10.

his shot totals don't come anywhere near the top guys in the league.

if you can't get your shot off, your not top 10.
- Tumbleweed

That is the dumbest argument I think I've ever heard. Shot totals have absolutely nothing to do with how good your shot is

That is the dumbest argument I think I've ever heard. Shot totals have absolutely nothing to do with how good your shot is
- Maverick1818

part of having a good shot is getting it off quickly. you can have the best shot in the world, but if it takes 5 seconds to line it up its useless.

he's not top 10. sorry.

part of having a good shot is getting it off quickly. you can have the best shot in the world, but if it takes 5 seconds to line it up its useless.

he's not top 10. sorry.
- Tumbleweed

hahahahaha k you believe what ever you want

hahahahaha k you believe what ever you want
- Maverick1818

1. Ovechkin
2. Stamkos
3. Seguin
4. P.Kane
5. Taresenko
6. Matthews
7. Pastrnak
8. Tavares
9. Crosby
10. Kucherov

Plus more. Sorry. Not top 10.

part of having a good shot is getting it off quickly. you can have the best shot in the world, but if it takes 5 seconds to line it up its useless.

he's not top 10. sorry.
- Tumbleweed

Ovechkin
Stamkos
Benn
Kucherov
Mathews
Tarensenko
Eichel
Laine
Kane
Crosby

Yeah, These ten in my opinion have better shots. I love hoff, but I think he's being overinflated in this discussion.

There's probably a few others most would put above.

1. Ovechkin
2. Stamkos
3. Seguin
4. P.Kane
5. Taresenko
6. Matthews
7. Pastrnak
8. Tavares
9. Crosby
10. Kucherov

Plus more. Sorry. Not top 10.
- Tumbleweed

You literally just listed some of the leagues top players. Anyone could do that. out of those players you listed the only ones with better shots than Hoffman are Ovi, Stamkos, Sequin Kucherov and Travarse.

You clearly need to watch Hoffman play.

Ovechkin
Stamkos
Benn
Kucherov
Mathews
Tarensenko
Eichel
Laine
Kane
Crosby

Yeah, These ten in my opinion have better shots. I love hoff, but I think he's being overinflated in this discussion.

There's probably a few others most would put above.
- david22

i actually think hoffman and stone are pretty good wingers.

but top 10 shot in the league for a guy that hasn't broken 30 is a bit much.

You literally just listed some of the leagues top players. Anyone could do that. out of those players you listed the only ones with better shots than Hoffman are Ovi, Stamkos, Sequin Kucherov and Travarse.

You clearly need to watch Hoffman play.
- Maverick1818

the guy hasn't broken 30 goals.

gtfo.

the guy hasn't broken 30 goals.

gtfo.
- Tumbleweed

Pretty lame argument. thats like saying Duchene hasn't scored 30 in two years so he's not one of the best skaters in the league.

Stats don't always match play or skills

4 points out of 6 is better then treadi g water. . Not bad at all. Just need to get that powerplay going and the Sens would be doing as good as anybody. It will start to click . Its nice to get these hiccups out of their team game earlier then later.

I now know the Sens are the most hated team in the league. Thats what happens when your a regularly succesfull team . However it has also made the Sens fans jaded

Pretty lame argument. thats like saying Duchene hasn't scored 30 in two years so he's not one of the best skaters in the league.

Stats don't always match play or skills
- Maverick1818

goals don't matter, especially when we're talking about the best shooters in the league.

is this james tanner trolling me?

4 points out of 6 is better then treadi g water. . Not bad at all. Just need to get that powerplay going and the Sens would be doing as good as anybody. It will start to click . Its nice to get these hiccups out of their team game earlier then later.

I now know the Sens are the most hated team in the league. Thats what happens when your a regularly succesfull team . However it has also made the Sens fans jaded
- spazzbot

Yep pretty satisfied with that.

Real test coming up this weekend though. Looking forward to watching Gaudreau this friday.

Mcdavid too.

goals don't matter, especially when we're talking about the best shooters in the league.

is this james tanner trolling me?
- Tumbleweed

next you are going to try telling me that Matthews is better than Mcdavid lol

next you are going to try telling me that Matthews is better than Mcdavid lol
- Maverick1818

nice deflection

goals don't matter when determining the best shooters in the league.

i've heard it all now.

you need to watch a few games that don't involve ottawa.

nice deflection

goals don't matter when determining the best shooters in the league.

i've heard it all now.

you need to watch a few games that don't involve ottawa.
- Tumbleweed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUikJ3mGebA

Terrible music, but you get the idea

he'll demand +6 years. someone will give it to him.

dorion will probably trade turris and a 2nd to chicago for anisimov to get out from paying him.
- Tumbleweed

I don't know. He has number 1 center minutes... Not sure he would get those on another team. 4 years or 6 years seems pretty close in maturity. You offer him more years with less pay or less years with more pay. That's usual hickey economics. I'm not assuming I know what he wants but I don't think he's ever question leaving the team.

Nice link! Music was ok too. Hoffman is amazing.
I love our team it's full of really great players and I like all of them.
People talk too much $hit around here... it's October for god's sake!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUikJ3mGebA

Terrible music, but you get the idea
- Maverick1818

Nice link! Music was ok too. Hoffman is amazing.
I love our team it's full of really great players and I like all of them.
People talk too much $hit around here... it's October for god's sake!
- sgoodwin

I don't think teams or fans really take Ottawa seriously, We went really far int he playoffs last year, one goal away from the finals and are still considered an underdog this year.

Only works to our benefit I think.