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PtotheY
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 11 @ 3:36 PM ET
When was the last time this occurred?

- Fakepartofme


Last year LOL!
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Oct 11 @ 3:41 PM ET
To get things back on track as this is a Sens blog on a trade rumour site, Elliot Friedman had an opinion that Turris did not dress for 3 pre-season games due to trade/contract talks. This comes after Bob Mackenzie and Darren Dreger both said that they would be surprised to see Turris comes to terms here in Ottawa

With all of the love for Turris in this fan base, I am surprised there is not more talk about it.

You can’t afford to have him walk in the summer really but it is hard to see if he is worth signing for 8 years for more than 6 million or so per season. I sort of get the impression that Dorion and company wants more for their buck if they are locking long term on a centre. Let’s face it, he is not elite should not be handed a blank check like Karlsson should be.

Personally, I’d like to see a modest 3-4 year contract signed in the range of 5-6.5 mill per season and I think the Sens would to as well.

I think its worthy discussion. He may fetch a decent package via trade especially if Brown or White make strides in the early going. But probably too soon to bank on that. Interesting times.
PtotheY
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 11 @ 3:41 PM ET
Wait.

Did you just try to place Hoffman in with Ovie and Stammer's elite shots and goal scoring ability?... Uuuuuuummm, no.

Hoffman is a solid player, but he's definitely not in the same class as those two. Sorry.

- As_I_See_It


He's not in the same class, but his shot is in the top 10 of the league and is up there with Kucherov, Stamkos and Ovi. Just saying.. He already hit 4 posts in the season, no goals mind you, but 4 posts!! Wait until' he finds his scoring touch again and those will be in the net. He has to through a lil' monkey off his back.
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Oct 11 @ 3:42 PM ET
It looks increasingly as though Claesson will almost certainly be the new partner for Karlsson, once he's back from injury. Ceci and Phaneuf put in their standard 22-24min last night, while Claesson put in over 26min on a night where they managed to play all of Borowiecki, Wideman, Chabot, and Jaros in lesser roles. Personally, I have no real problem with dressing 7 defencemen, but I do wish they'd stop flip-flopping around with Chabot's development. There's really been nothing going on that someone like Harpur couldn't handle in terms of covering the #6 spot.

All-in-all, it's not a bad early start to the season for a team that was supposed to be lost and hopeless without Karlsson in the lineup. Interesting to see both Brassard and Ryan out of the gate quickly, as they were in the playoffs. If both really have figured out how to thrive within Boucher's system, that could make the Senators far more of a legitimate 2 scoring line team than most people were expecting.
PtotheY
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 11 @ 3:43 PM ET
To get things back on track as this is a Sens blog on a trade rumour site, Elliot Friedman had an opinion that Turris did not dress for 3 pre-season games due to trade/contract talks. This comes after Bob Mackenzie and Darren Dreger both said that they would be surprised to see Turris comes to terms here in Ottawa

With all of the love for Turris in this fan base, I am surprised there is not more talk about it.

You can’t afford to have him walk in the summer really but it is hard to see if he is worth signing for 8 years for more than 6 million or so per season. I sort of get the impression that Dorion and company wants more for their buck if they are locking long term on a centre. Let’s face it, he is not elite should not be handed a blank check like Karlsson should be.

Personally, I’d like to see a modest 3-4 year contract signed in the range of 5-6.5 mill per season and I think the Sens would to as well.

I think its worthy discussion. He may fetch a decent package via trade especially if Brown or White make strides in the early going. But probably too soon to bank on that. Interesting times.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


Yeah I agree, your numbers seem pretty fair for 3-4 years contract.

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 11 @ 3:51 PM ET
To get things back on track as this is a Sens blog on a trade rumour site, Elliot Friedman had an opinion that Turris did not dress for 3 pre-season games due to trade/contract talks. This comes after Bob Mackenzie and Darren Dreger both said that they would be surprised to see Turris comes to terms here in Ottawa

With all of the love for Turris in this fan base, I am surprised there is not more talk about it.

You can’t afford to have him walk in the summer really but it is hard to see if he is worth signing for 8 years for more than 6 million or so per season. I sort of get the impression that Dorion and company wants more for their buck if they are locking long term on a centre. Let’s face it, he is not elite should not be handed a blank check like Karlsson should be.

Personally, I’d like to see a modest 3-4 year contract signed in the range of 5-6.5 mill per season and I think the Sens would to as well.

I think its worthy discussion. He may fetch a decent package via trade especially if Brown or White make strides in the early going. But probably too soon to bank on that. Interesting times.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


he'll demand +6 years. someone will give it to him.

dorion will probably trade turris and a 2nd to chicago for anisimov to get out from paying him.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Oct 11 @ 3:53 PM ET
To get things back on track as this is a Sens blog on a trade rumour site, Elliot Friedman had an opinion that Turris did not dress for 3 pre-season games due to trade/contract talks. This comes after Bob Mackenzie and Darren Dreger both said that they would be surprised to see Turris comes to terms here in Ottawa

With all of the love for Turris in this fan base, I am surprised there is not more talk about it.

You can’t afford to have him walk in the summer really but it is hard to see if he is worth signing for 8 years for more than 6 million or so per season. I sort of get the impression that Dorion and company wants more for their buck if they are locking long term on a centre. Let’s face it, he is not elite should not be handed a blank check like Karlsson should be.


Personally, I’d like to see a modest 3-4 year contract signed in the range of 5-6.5 mill per season and I think the Sens would to as well.

I think its worthy discussion. He may fetch a decent package via trade especially if Brown or White make strides in the early going. But probably too soon to bank on that. Interesting times.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


I thought it was all speculation, which was why I wans't bringing it up myself. I wasn't aware of any concrete sources saying trade talks were serious.

I'd do 6 years fo 6 mil.

Turris doesn't play a very physical style of game so I think he can keep his numbers up there for the most part.

If they can't agree to term though they should trade him to avoid losing him for nothing.
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Oct 11 @ 3:57 PM ET
Hi guys,
I was wondering if this was the line to wait in for the SHORT BUS?





Yup, I'm in the right place.

- Unholy-Goalie

Have you actually watched him play? did you read what I wrote?

I'm not saying he has the same natural scoring ability As Ovi or Stamkos. I am saying his shot is on par with them.

Also the point was more about Stone not being the type to slap one in, he's more of a pick pocket type player.
PavohnDatsvares
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.03.2016

Oct 11 @ 3:58 PM ET
Yak could be a 25-30 goal guy if put in the right situation.

They were talking about it on the team 1200 last night that Forsberg basically just meant benching him would force Sakic to finally bend on his high asking price because ownership wouldn't be happy paying Duchene to sit there and that Duchene and Forsberg talked about it and it's all cool.

I think the comment was more to do with Sakic than Duchene. It's kind of an interesting perspective to be honest, I would never even consider doing that to force a trade.

- Maverick1818



Yeah, but I think it's a slippery slope. We can't have coaches bullying their managers. Sounds like a good way to get a coach fired. It's definitely something I could have seen Patrick Roy doing. Lol
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 11 @ 4:00 PM ET
When was the last time this occurred?

- Fakepartofme

In October 2013 the Leafs went an amazing 10-4-0 through October.

Just looking at the results for the rest of the season, and it's a horrific laugh-fest.

January had 4 losses in a row, followed by 6 wins in a row.

March had an 8 game losing streak.

And a nice little 4 game losing streak to finish out the year.

But we won the Octo-Cup - everything else was pretty much irrelevant after that.

Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Oct 11 @ 4:01 PM ET
Yeah, but I think it's a slippery slope. We can't have coaches bullying their managers. Sounds like a good way to get a coach fired. It's definitely something I could have seen Patrick Roy doing. Lol
- PavohnDatsvares

I agree, I just never thought about it from that angle of benching him, but all it would do is piss off everyone more.

Just my opinion but I think Sakic got burned on the ROR trade and now he's scared to make a move without getting a ridiculous over payment in return. and the fact that he is unwilling to budge has turned teams off.

The sooner it gets resolved the better but I think it'll get dragged out more
PavohnDatsvares
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.03.2016

Oct 11 @ 4:13 PM ET
Well it's nice to finally get noticed lol
- Maverick1818


I was about to poke fun at you with a similar joke of my own. Seriously, I think every Sens thread I've read on this site in the last 2-3 years has you pleading for a, "#1C." And you are definitely right. Maybe I'll find a magic lamp and somehow get Tavares wearing red and black.

Prediction: Coga will reply to this with, "Yeah, JT will look great in Chicago (or insert any other team wearing those colours)."
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Oct 11 @ 4:15 PM ET
I was about to poke fun at you with a similar joke of my own. Seriously, I think every Sens thread I've read on this site in the last 2-3 years has you pleading for a, "#1C." And you are definitely right. Maybe I'll find a magic lamp and somehow get Tavares wearing red and black.

Prediction: Coga will reply to this with, "Yeah, JT will look great in Chicago (or insert any other team wearing those colours)."

- PavohnDatsvares


You didn't say the D world, so I think you're good.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Oct 11 @ 4:16 PM ET
I was about to poke fun at you with a similar joke of my own. Seriously, I think every Sens thread I've read on this site in the last 2-3 years has you pleading for a, "#1C." And you are definitely right. Maybe I'll find a magic lamp and somehow get Tavares wearing red and black.

Prediction: Coga will reply to this with, "Yeah, JT will look great in Chicago (or insert any other team wearing those colours)."

- PavohnDatsvares


In all seriousness, the Tavares brings up an interesting point.

I know, Ottawa is not a good fit for numerous reasons. (salary hit, actually wanting to play here, more I'm probably not thinking of).

But it does consitute a number one center being potentially available, and it's something you don't see too often.
PavohnDatsvares
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.03.2016

Oct 11 @ 4:20 PM ET
I thought it was all speculation, which was why I wans't bringing it up myself. I wasn't aware of any concrete sources saying trade talks were serious.

I'd do 6 years fo 6 mil.

Turris doesn't play a very physical style of game so I think he can keep his numbers up there for the most part.

If they can't agree to term though they should trade him to avoid losing him for nothing.

- david22


I completely agree with your valuation. I feel like Turris will ask 7x7, and Dorion Will offer 5x5, and they'll meet in the middle at 6x6. And I don't think that's a horrible thing.

I had said earlier that I'd give him a blank check. This was in terms of DOLLARS, not term. If he'd agree to a shorter term, I'd have no problem paying him a bit more.
PavohnDatsvares
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.03.2016

Oct 11 @ 4:28 PM ET
In all seriousness, the Tavares brings up an interesting point.

I know, Ottawa is not a good fit for numerous reasons. (salary hit, actually wanting to play here, more I'm probably not thinking of).

But it does consitute a number one center being potentially available, and it's something you don't see too often.

- david22


I really think Tavares will, and SHOULD, stay in Brooklyn. However, of teams that could realistically fit him in, Ottawa is actually a decent candidate for him. He'd absolutely be THE GUY up front. Karlsson would remain captain and the official face of the franchise, so maybe that helps take pressure off somehow. I'm not sure if that would be a plus or a negative for JT. He'd obviously love to play with Karlsson. He's an Ontario boy who would no doubt love playing for a Canadian team. And the Sens are the type of team many feel are just a major piece or two away from being consistent contenders.

All that being said, I bet he stays with the Isles.
Unholy-Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I am the ALL KNOWING UGTARD! You are wrong because I said so!
Joined: 11.18.2011

Oct 11 @ 4:38 PM ET
Have you actually watched him play? did you read what I wrote?

I'm not saying he has the same natural scoring ability As Ovi or Stamkos. I am saying his shot is on par with them.

Also the point was more about Stone not being the type to slap one in, he's more of a pick pocket type player.

- Maverick1818



Might want to loosen the chin strap on your helemt.



And yes I've seen him play.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 11 @ 4:41 PM ET
In all seriousness, the Tavares brings up an interesting point.

I know, Ottawa is not a good fit for numerous reasons. (salary hit, actually wanting to play here, more I'm probably not thinking of).

But it does consitute a number one center being potentially available, and it's something you don't see too often.

- david22

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 11 @ 4:52 PM ET
To get things back on track as this is a Sens blog on a trade rumour site, Elliot Friedman had an opinion that Turris did not dress for 3 pre-season games due to trade/contract talks. This comes after Bob Mackenzie and Darren Dreger both said that they would be surprised to see Turris comes to terms here in Ottawa

With all of the love for Turris in this fan base, I am surprised there is not more talk about it.

You can’t afford to have him walk in the summer really but it is hard to see if he is worth signing for 8 years for more than 6 million or so per season. I sort of get the impression that Dorion and company wants more for their buck if they are locking long term on a centre. Let’s face it, he is not elite should not be handed a blank check like Karlsson should be.

Personally, I’d like to see a modest 3-4 year contract signed in the range of 5-6.5 mill per season and I think the Sens would to as well.

I think its worthy discussion. He may fetch a decent package via trade especially if Brown or White make strides in the early going. But probably too soon to bank on that. Interesting times.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


If Sens are going to keep Turris they have to sign him to 8 years. Otherwise he will exercise his rights and pick a team and city he likes for that type of offer.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 11 @ 4:57 PM ET
I really think Tavares will, and SHOULD, stay in Brooklyn. However, of teams that could realistically fit him in, Ottawa is actually a decent candidate for him. He'd absolutely be THE GUY up front. Karlsson would remain captain and the official face of the franchise, so maybe that helps take pressure off somehow. I'm not sure if that would be a plus or a negative for JT. He'd obviously love to play with Karlsson. He's an Ontario boy who would no doubt love playing for a Canadian team. And the Sens are the type of team many feel are just a major piece or two away from being consistent contenders.

All that being said, I bet he stays with the Isles.

- PavohnDatsvares


Sens have to overpay to get players. No one likes the organization and owner. JT won't stay in Brooklyn but he'll stay for new stadium. Otherwise he probably head to a winner that can pay him like the Preds.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 11 @ 5:16 PM ET
I can think of worse things than having to live and get paid to play hockey in Colorado.
- Atomic Wedgie


Right?! Like having to live and get paid to play hockey in Buffalo.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 11 @ 5:41 PM ET
Right?! Like having to live and get paid to play hockey in Buffalo.
- GreatGigInTheSky


i wonder if seeing ROR in buffalo has duchene re-thinking his position.
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Oct 11 @ 5:57 PM ET
Might want to loosen the chin strap on your helemt.



And yes I've seen him play.

- Unholy-Goalie

clearly not enough. Hoffman's shot is easily top ten in the league
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 11 @ 6:09 PM ET
clearly not enough. Hoffman's shot is easily top ten in the league
- Maverick1818



the difference is that hoffman needs more time, space and help to get his shot off.

stamkos and ovechkin need less time and less help creating their shots.

so no, it's not in the same category as theirs. and not top 10 in the league.
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Oct 11 @ 6:15 PM ET
the difference is that hoffman needs more time, space and help to get his shot off.

stamkos and ovechkin need less time and less help creating their shots.

so no, it's not in the same category as theirs. and not top 10 in the league.

- Tumbleweed

I 100% disagree, I've seen him shoot in crazy tight space and still managed to score. and yes easily top 10 in the league.
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