I know for a fact that I have to fill out a pistol permit application for a Sportsman's Permit, which essentially affords me only two rights. 1) To be able to buy/own a pistol and store it in my home and 2) To be legally allowed to have it in a locked, secure box in my car for transport to and from a pistol range only. Possessing it outside my home any other time than in direct transit to a range would be, technically, illegal.

Permits usually take anywhere from 6mo-9mo and, aside from the litany of questions you need to answer, you have to fill out 4 non-family/LEO character references and have them sign the application. They check out all the references and then you have to go in and sit with a cop at the precinct for an interview (likely so they can corroborate your application to what you tell them in person).
- eichiefs9

This is the same in NYC. Same exact process and rules, just takes over a year now.

I know for a fact that I have to fill out a pistol permit application for a Sportsman's Permit, which essentially affords me only two rights. 1) To be able to buy/own a pistol and store it in my home and 2) To be legally allowed to have it in a locked, secure box in my car for transport to and from a pistol range only. Possessing it outside my home any other time than in direct transit to a range would be, technically, illegal.

Permits usually take anywhere from 6mo-9mo and, aside from the litany of questions you need to answer, you have to fill out 4 non-family/LEO character references and have them sign the application. They check out all the references and then you have to go in and sit with a cop at the precinct for an interview (likely so they can corroborate your application to what you tell them in person).
- eichiefs9

Pretty much the same as NJ, but the handgun permit expires after a year, so you had better know what you want upon submission.

I agree, but then again, they represent people who live in bumfulck nowhere who have much different lives than us. I surely don't want some of the nonsense guns those people use here in NY, just as much as they don't want others telling them they have to get rid of stuff they already have.
People need to come together, but all politics aside, listen to everyone's side and hopefully come up with a solution that WILL include compromise on everyone's part.
Compromise is the key word.
- MiloslavHorava

Like I said in my last post, some of the things I see reported on are so wildly overblown or just factually incorrect. If you want people to take you seriously on any matter, you should at least take the time to educate yourself and not sound like an uninformed person that is making wild claims to get what they want.

The gun-nut crowd is just as guilty of refusing to budge an inch on anything though. Like you said, there needs to be a legitimate compromise.

The one that always gets me is the insane vitriol against suppressors, or as the media likes to refer to them..."silencers". People believe what they see in movies, where suppressors make guns go "psst psst" and nobody outside of a few feet can hear them. In reality, a suppressed AR-15 gets toned down to the low, soothing volume of a jackhammer. Not exactly very stealthy.

I think those in favor of major gun law reform would do themselves a huge favor by becoming far more well versed in firearms. People are quick to fight back when you're trying to tell them something that is patently false.
- eichiefs9

you gotta admit the sarcastic "ban cars" or "ban pressure cookers" people are pretty damn irritating

I agree, but then again, they represent people who live in bumfulck nowhere who have much different lives than us. I surely don't want some of the nonsense guns those people use here in NY, just as much as they don't want others telling them they have to get rid of stuff they already have.
People need to come together, but all politics aside, listen to everyone's side and hopefully come up with a solution that WILL include compromise on everyone's part.
Compromise is the key word.
- MiloslavHorava

Compromise? Come on. After Newtown, Congress couldn't even pass some meaningless background check law that had the support of 90% of the population. Compromise is impossible when politicians are in the bags of powerful lobbies, whether it be the NRA or any other lobby.

Every time something like this happens we waster are time talking about it, knowing that there isn't a shot in hell that anything gets done, even on some compromised basis.

Pretty much the same as NJ, but the handgun permit expires after a year, so you had better know what you want upon submission.
- Fenrir

I've had the paperwork filled out for so long and never bothered submitting it. Truthfully, I'm not dying to own one. It'd be nice to have a compact little guy to keep in the bedroom, god forbid I ever need to use it. But truthfully, if I'm going to go spend $500-$1,000 on a gun...I'm buying myself a nice sweet-16 over/under to shoot clays with.

The one that always gets me is the insane vitriol against suppressors, or as the media likes to refer to them..."silencers". People believe what they see in movies, where suppressors make guns go "psst psst" and nobody outside of a few feet can hear them. In reality, a suppressed AR-15 gets toned down to the low, soothing volume of a jackhammer. Not exactly very stealthy.

I think those in favor of major gun law reform would do themselves a huge favor by becoming far more well versed in firearms. People are quick to fight back when you're trying to tell them something that is patently false.
- eichiefs9

Agrred! - If the guy in Vegas had a "silencer" on his guns they would have actually physically melted and jammed, the amount of rounds going through the barrel alone made them heat up and jam as it is, the suppressor might have saved lives if he tried to use them, because the guns would jam quicker and he would've had to keep swapping out the guns which would've taken longer.

The one that always gets me is the insane vitriol against suppressors, or as the media likes to refer to them..."silencers". People believe what they see in movies, where suppressors make guns go "psst psst" and nobody outside of a few feet can hear them. In reality, a suppressed AR-15 gets toned down to the low, soothing volume of a jackhammer. Not exactly very stealthy.

I think those in favor of major gun law reform would do themselves a huge favor by becoming far more well versed in firearms. People are quick to fight back when you're trying to tell them something that is patently false.
- eichiefs9

Exactly.
Having shot an AR-15 in .308 at the range, I can attest to not wanting to do that all day.
Not sure about NY, but long guns in NJ can't have certain features that make them scary. Like a mix and match of 2 out of 3 will get you busted.

you gotta admit the sarcastic "ban cars" or "ban pressure cookers" people are pretty damn irritating
- jimbro83

I'm no gun-nut and I can't stand the radical nutjobs that think things like those bump-stocks or slide-fire modifications should be anywhere even in the realm of legal. There's just as many idiots guilty of terrible arguments on the pro-gun side as their are on the opposing side.

I have about 8 guns and all but 2 I only own because I inherited them from my grandfather when he passed. None would ever be seen as "assault" style weapons. Give me my shotgun for waterfowl and that's all I really need until I decide to get into deer or other bigger game. Don't care to own a whole lot else.

I've had the paperwork filled out for so long and never bothered submitting it. Truthfully, I'm not dying to own one. It'd be nice to have a compact little guy to keep in the bedroom, god forbid I ever need to use it. But truthfully, if I'm going to go spend $500-$1,000 on a gun...I'm buying myself a nice sweet-16 over/under to shoot clays with.
- eichiefs9

WHAT
THE
FUCCCK

Exactly.
Having shot an AR-15 in .308 at the range, I can attest to not wanting to do that all day.
Not sure about NY, but long guns in NJ can't have certain features that make them scary. Like a mix and match of 2 out of 3 will get you busted.
- Fenrir

Yeah, NY is basically the same more or less. There's a list of modifications that you can only have one or two of on each weapon without it being classified as an "assault weapon". NY and NJ are extremely similar, in my experience, in firearm laws.

WHAT
THE
FUCCCK
- MiloslavHorava

I'm into gay midgets. What?

I've had the paperwork filled out for so long and never bothered submitting it. Truthfully, I'm not dying to own one. It'd be nice to have a compact little guy to keep in the bedroom, god forbid I ever need to use it. But truthfully, if I'm going to go spend $500-$1,000 on a gun...I'm buying myself a nice sweet-16 over/under to shoot clays with.
- eichiefs9

Always wanted a .22 pistol for plinking, but I have more pressing needs for that $500-$1000.
If you do, can't say enough about the Ruger GP100.

Agrred! - If the guy in Vegas had a "silencer" on his guns they would have actually physically melted and jammed, the amount of rounds going through the barrel alone made them heat up and jam as it is, the suppressor might have saved lives if he tried to use them, because the guns would jam quicker and he would've had to keep swapping out the guns which would've taken longer.
- MiloslavHorava

The reality of suppressors is that a lot of these European countries that so many see as "progressive" actually allow hunters to use them on rifles because they are a big help to hunter's ears. Even though they don't make it even close to silent, they save a lot of hearing damage.

I'm into gay midgets. What?
- eichiefs9

I hear dwarf tossing is fun.

Always wanted a .22 pistol for plinking, but I have more pressing needs for that $500-$1000.
If you do, can't say enough about the Ruger GP100.
- Fenrir

I got two Ruger rifles in .22 (77/22 and a 10/22) after my grandfather died. Haven't even shot them once.

I hear dwarf tossing is fun.
- Fenrir

Quick, Norway Pete! Get me Zucarello on the phone!

The reality of suppressors is that a lot of these European countries that so many see as "progressive" actually allow hunters to use them on rifles because they are a big help to hunter's ears. Even though they don't make it even close to silent, they save a lot of hearing damage.
- eichiefs9

Can't hunt with a rifle in NJ since it is so densely populated.
Most of what I own is also inherited from my father and grandfather.

I got two Ruger rifles in .22 (77/22 and a 10/22) after my grandfather died. Haven't even shot them once.
- eichiefs9

Oh man, I love the 10/22. So easy to blow through a box at the range hitting the spinners.
Get a tri-mag for it.

Quick, Norway Pete! Get me Zucarello on the phone!
- eichiefs9

Toss Gerbe, you sick bastard!

Quick, Norway Pete! Get me Zucarello on the phone!
- eichiefs9

He's busy sewing on his "A"...

Toss Gerbe, you sick bastard!
- Fenrir

Gerbe?
He'd rather toss Salad!

He's busy sewing on his "A"...
- 21peter

Gerbe?
He'd rather toss Salad!
- MiloslavHorava

The overall combined consensus by the major U.S. & Canada hockey media networks and publications have the Rangers and Canadiens not returning to the postseason, for those who qualified in the East in 2017. Their replacements are a healthy Stamkos led Lightning team to make a long playoff run, and the young rising Hurricanes, led by one of the best young defense cores in the game. But they still see the Capitals qualifying because of Holtby, and what the Rangers and Canadiens don't have in an Ovi type game breaker, at least when it comes down to the regular season.
Rangers wise in the improved East, goal tending will be the determining factor, along with whether or not Stepan's production & defensive roles can be replaced sufficiently. With Raanta also gone, & his 34 points earned in 30 games played (including non starts) last season with a 2.26 GAA, Hank will need to play at the rate of a near Richter like 1993/94 performance (90 points in 68 GMPL for 1.32 pts/gm, & a 2.57 GAA), for him required to earn 77 to 80 points minimum in 60 to 62 maximum starts. In addition, Pavelec must earn 25 points in his 20 to 22 starts, for a 102 to 105 team total. This time around, last season's 102 points may be just good enough to only earn Wild Card spot #2 instead of WC #1 in the improved East.