Whats worked out though? For essentially a 4th round pick if he dresses for 100 games will that be enough?

Personally I have a low bar, like Yannick Weber low for him. Anything better than bottom pairing specialist is a win in my books

As for the plethora of picks, the Canucks lack the highest end talent that usually comes in the top rounds. They have been a team of 3rd liners for ages, which aside from the rare occurrences, is what usually becomes of these late round picks if they make it. Palmu, Rathbone, etc are not likely to be all stars and still far away from even being NHLers
- WhiteLie

It really depends on how you value your picks. If a 3rd round pick dresses over a 100 games, you could say that as value for a pick, but if that player doesn't produce, or create production in terms of winning, than where is the value. My point is that we are better served taking a chance at a 3rd or 4th round pick, as our future is not now, but instead after the Sedins are gone, and we take that risk, much like we did with the Pettersson pick. We have to take chances on youth. I just want life after the Sedins to be exciting, successful, and for this franchise to win a cup, that is my end goal, much like everyones

I like his potential also. This team's D on the PP sucks. Benning is taking a low cost chance and good for him. If it works he is a fuken genius if not we will run him out of town .

I have my Torch and Box of chocolates ready for either result
- VANTEL

If this is the move that defines JB's career, we are more sensitive that i ever imagined.
I think it's worth reflecting on the fact that JB is a scout and decides to move these picks so often.
To me that suggests that he is aware that lower picks have a very slim chance of working out and that taking a punt on a young player with decent upside is a good gamble...worked out well on Granlund, Sven, etc.
It won't always work out, but probably works out more often than lower draft picks.

I know this might not be news, but I have been a huge advocate for building through the draft, much like DET has done for so many years, and unlike what EDM has done for the last decade.

Draft well, develop well, don't sign players over 25 to multi year contracts, stay away from high profile free agents during free agency. Canucks have struggled to find who is going to supersede the twins once they are gone, and during times of having so many questions, Benning has acquired 6 picks, and dealt 12, and to me, he is just such a gifted scout in terms of being able to establish prospect skill and potential, that I would much prefer him keep his picks and continue to do what he does best While the Sedins are here, I was just hoping that we acquired more picks than dealt, because we simply aren't going to win with them on the roster (harsh reality)
- Codes1087

Det has one of the worst futures right now and I think we have a lot of prospects already. To me it's not a big deal but I get that some wont be happy

Det has one of the worst futures right now and I think we have a lot of prospects already. To me it's not a big deal but I get that some wont be happy
- VANTEL

DET is going to be bad, really bad for the next few years. I think much of that can be on the hands of Kenny though. The contracts that man has given out in the last 5 years are cringe worthy

lol relax man. We are all having a good time here, remove the stick and ease up
- Codes1087

Send the list of those WE to my pm.
I'm having a good time idk what your idea of one is.

DET is going to be bad, really bad for the next few years. I think much of that can be on the hands of Kenny though. The contracts that man has given out in the last 5 years are cringe worthy
- Codes1087

Yup

Jason Garrison for a 2nd (great move)
3rd round pick for Dorsett (has been a good pick dealt)
Kesler and a 3rd for Bonino, Sbisa, 1st and 3rd (average value)
2nd round pick for Vey (bust)
Mallet and a 3rd for Pedan (not terrible)
Forsling for Glendening (bad)
2nd round pick for Baer (great great trade)
Eddie Lack for a 3rd and a 7th (unreal trade, love to see this, both because of lack and picks)
Kassian and a 5th for Prust (had to, bad)
Bonino, Clendening, 2nd for Sutter and a 3rd (decent, Sutter is better then Bonino, who castes about cap, clen or moving 6 spots)
Jensen and a 7th for Etem (meh, average)
Shinkaruk for Granlund (great great trade)
5th for Philip Larsen (a 5th... meh, bust )
McCann + 2nd + 4th for Gudbranson and a 5th. (I like Guddy but this year will show, Mccann is a BUST, meh)

Losing 1 3rd or 1 4th round pick is not a big deal, but losing picks from rounds 2-7 start to become significant when they routinely become part of these hockey trades. I am a big advocate of Benning drafting, especially after his latest draft, which I believe he could have potentially snagged value at nearly all picks made. I just wish, at this stage in the game for the Canucks, that he was acquiring picks instead of dealing them. I really hope Benning makes me eat my words though.
- Codes1087

Hey Stringerbell, I fixed your post to be accurate , way more wins then loses in the trade column.

If this is the move that defines JB's career, we are more sensitive that i ever imagined.
I think it's worth reflecting on the fact that JB is a scout and decides to move these picks so often.
To me that suggests that he is aware that lower picks have a very slim chance of working out and that taking a punt on a young player with decent upside is a good gamble...worked out well on Granlund, Sven, etc.
It won't always work out, but probably works out more often than lower draft picks.
- dbot

Benning is a spark plug.


I have understood most of his moves. Some work some don't . At least he tried

Yup
- VANTEL

you have to give credit where credit is due with that franchise though. Tatar, Nyquist, Athansiou, Larkin, Mantha. They still manage to get value from picks all across the board.

Hey Stringerbell, I fixed your post to be accurate , way more wins then loses in the trade column.
- Pres.cup

could be the worst thing anyone has ever said to me

could be the worst thing anyone has ever said to me
- Codes1087

I can step in if you like..

Seeing Edler his drop pass and his inaccurate shot lead the PP for the last 6 years anything is a welcome change.


So who sits out now?

Benning is a spark plug.


I have understood most of his moves. Some work some don't . At least he tried
- VANTEL

I'd rather see an active GM move out players he deems not being NHLers.
Bye bye Pedan Shinkaruk...
Trading a contract for a contract is more valuable to us than what the chances a 4th ever pans out to be. Its on the Pens who drafted Pouliot 8oa & didn't develop him & its our turn to try n see if a 23yr old can be be serviceable vs Pedan who is not.
We essentially gave only a 4th for Pouliot IMO. Pedan was a throw in.

2 out of 3 Hockbuzzers or over 75% would agree with you!
- Beatle_john

_ passes beetle a calculator _

66/100=66%
You're welcome

If this is the move that defines JB's career, we are more sensitive that i ever imagined.
I think it's worth reflecting on the fact that JB is a scout and decides to move these picks so often.
To me that suggests that he is aware that lower picks have a very slim chance of working out and that taking a punt on a young player with decent upside is a good gamble...worked out well on Granlund, Sven, etc.
It won't always work out, but probably works out more often than lower draft picks.
- dbot

I don't think we would be so sensitive about the later rounds picks if Benning hadn't found value in them prior. We could talk all day about what if's, but he has shown what he has been capable of with the Forsling, Gaudette, Palmu picks. Benning definitely knows how to draft.

I can step in if you like..
- Makita

I can step in if you like..
- Makita

That was a real low blow by Prez . I would look up what a 2 year ban can be used on

Go condescend to someone else.
Idk who made you decide who is or not having a good time.
- Nighthawk

We held a vote and codes was elected to decide who was having a good time.
Sorry you missed it, don't think dayhawk did

_ passes beetle a calculator _

66/100=66%
You're welcome
- Pres.cup

Too much LSD which to John is Leafs Suck Dongs

It really depends on how you value your picks. If a 3rd round pick dresses over a 100 games, you could say that as value for a pick, but if that player doesn't produce, or create production in terms of winning, than where is the value. My point is that we are better served taking a chance at a 3rd or 4th round pick, as our future is not now, but instead after the Sedins are gone, and we take that risk, much like we did with the Pettersson pick. We have to take chances on youth. I just want life after the Sedins to be exciting, successful, and for this franchise to win a cup, that is my end goal, much like everyones
- Codes1087

Does anyone in the 4th round have a higher ceiling than someone like Pouliot? Usually that late in the draft youre hoping they do, but extreme luck is required. IMO a known commodity with deficiencies is easier to manage than hoping someone is available 100 picks into the draft, then developing them for years to hope they even get close; its a much larger gamble to me.

Rathbone was our last 4th round pick, he could very likely not get a sniff of NHL, whereas Pouliot will dress this year

I don't think we would be so sensitive about the later rounds picks if Benning hadn't found value in them prior. We could talk all day about what if's, but he has shown what he has been capable of with the Forsling, Gaudette, Palmu picks. Benning definitely knows how to draft.
- Codes1087

Pouliot has played more games than all those guys combined and is 23.
i'm just saying JB is a scout and is aware of his drafting abilities, he chooses to trade some picks when he see's value in a young player.
if we trust his scouting abilities, we should trust his scouting abilities.

We held a vote and codes was elected to decide who was having a good time.
Sorry you missed it, don't think dayhawk did


- Pres.cup

Picnic coordinator

Does anyone in the 4th round have a higher ceiling than someone like Pouliot? Usually that late in the draft youre hoping they do, but extreme luck is required. IMO a known commodity with deficiencies is easier to manage than hoping someone is available 100 picks into the draft, then developing them for years to hope they even get close; its a much larger gamble to me.

Rathbone was our last 4th round pick, he could very likely not get a sniff of NHL, whereas Pouliot will dress this year
- WhiteLie

I would largely consider Gaudette to having more promise to the future than I would say Pouliot, BUT, I think it would be completely unfair to judge a trade based off of zero playing time.

We held a vote and codes was elected to decide who was having a good time.
Sorry you missed it, don't think dayhawk did


- Pres.cup

Aah tyvm i am now up to speed 😂👍

Pouliot has played more games than all those guys combined and is 23.
i'm just saying JB is a scout and is aware of his drafting abilities, he chooses to trade some picks when he see's value in a young player.
if we trust his scouting abilities, we should trust his scouting abilities.
- dbot

We went over this last season, once a player is drafted JB's scouting abilities are ineffective