LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Man do I miss Sami Salo. Wasn't a Weber like bomb, but more like a precise cruise missile. - Itsjustarash
PP has stunk since he left. |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Archibald heading to Utica - phyllee
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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Based off of practice lines, and Archibald going to Utica, and Weircoch waived. Roster will be set at 23 with:
Sedin - Sedin - Vanek
Baer - Bo - Boeser
Eriksson - Gran - Gagner
Dorsett - Sutter - Virtanen
Burmistrov
Edler - Stecher
Hutton - Tanev
MDZ - Gudbranson
Pouliot
Biega
Markstrom
Nilsson - Codes1087
...and there it is. Benning said "if our young players earn a spot, we will make room". Many called BS as usual. Vanek Gagne signing say otherwise". No, Benning made the tough decisions and lived up to it. Not just that, he still has the security of having a couple of wingers to chose from if JV and Boeser are not getting the ice time they need. Goblin, Rodin, Dahlin... it's set up quite nicely. Bravo Jim.
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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...and there it is. Benning said "if our young players earn a spot, we will make room". Many called BS as usual. Vanek Gagne signing say otherwise". No, Benning made the tough decisions and lived up to it. Not just that, he still has the security of having a couple of wingers to chose from if JV and Boeser are not getting the ice time they need. Goblin, Rodin, Dahlin... it's set up quite nicely. Bravo Jim.
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I remember a ton of people calling BS, and its hard to blame them, but Benning made good on what he said. |
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eNDSo
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Location: PA Joined: 06.20.2016
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If Pouliot gets hit on the head at the right angle, he may forget the past 5 years and have a shot at developing. Dude makes mistakes like crazy, whatever they told him completely shot his ability to read the play.
When they drafted him, he was the center piece of the prospects. The next Letang. The only way he develops is if he plays 70+ games this season with a long leash and no expectation of making the playoffs. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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If Pouliot gets hit on the head at the right angle, he may forget the past 5 years and have a shot at developing. Dude makes mistakes like crazy, whatever they told him completely shot his ability to read the play.
When they drafted him, he was the center piece of the prospects. The next Letang. The only way he develops is if he plays 70+ games this season with a long leash and no expectation of making the playoffs. - eNDSo
He will do an excellent job for our tank this year then. |
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Itsjustarash
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: BC Joined: 08.29.2013
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If Pouliot gets hit on the head at the right angle, he may forget the past 5 years and have a shot at developing. Dude makes mistakes like crazy, whatever they told him completely shot his ability to read the play.
When they drafted him, he was the center piece of the prospects. The next Letang. The only way he develops is if he plays 70+ games this season with a long leash and no expectation of making the playoffs. - eNDSo
Might as well throw guys in there to see what they are made of. It's not like we gave up a lot or can get any worse than last year. Hopefully Green can help turn his career in the right direction and we luck out and he turns into 3-4 guy for the next decade. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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I feel much better with Pouliot as a 6/7th Dman than Biega, Weircoch or Pedan.
i think it's a solid trade win for JB. - dbot
didnt he give up a draft pick and not really upgrade the player? |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Might as well throw guys in there to see what they are made of. It's not like we gave up a lot or can get any worse than last year. Hopefully Green can help turn his career in the right direction and we luck out and he turns into 3-4 guy for the next decade. - Itsjustarash
Green coached Pouliot on Portland as well. I am sure that had some influence. |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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If Pouliot gets hit on the head at the right angle, he may forget the past 5 years and have a shot at developing. Dude makes mistakes like crazy, whatever they told him completely shot his ability to read the play.
When they drafted him, he was the center piece of the prospects. The next Letang. The only way he develops is if he plays 70+ games this season with a long leash and no expectation of making the playoffs. - eNDSo
Green will get him back on track. |
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Pedan's ceiling was as an average 5/6 stay at home physical defender. Pouliot's upside is as a great 3/4 if he can figure out the dzone stuff.
The knock seems to be he wasn't willing to put the work in. Given what we have seen happen with Virtanen last year, I'm hoping TG can get into his head. - PuckShack
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee Joined: 10.22.2011
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...and there it is. Benning said "if our young players earn a spot, we will make room". Many called BS as usual. Vanek Gagne signing say otherwise". No, Benning made the tough decisions and lived up to it. Not just that, he still has the security of having a couple of wingers to chose from if JV and Boeser are not getting the ice time they need. Goblin, Rodin, Dahlin... it's set up quite nicely. Bravo Jim.
- boonerbuck
I don't remember many. A few maybe. One or two, yes.
JB's shown that he is willing to play inexperienced young players. Hutton and Stecher being examples. I think it's more about signing vets to positions that could be filled with prospects already in the organization while he works to getting this team back to respectability. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Green coached Pouliot on Portland as well. I am sure that had some influence. - Codes1087
Kind of like WD coached Etem and Vey. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Kind of like WD coached Etem and Vey. - manvanfan
yep lol |
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Makita
Referee Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC Joined: 02.16.2007
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it's not the fact that Benning added a 4th round pick to the deal to get Pouliot, or that he spent a 3rd acquiring Pedan. One 3rd round or One 4th round pick isn't the end of the world, the problem is how many he has dealt, rather than acquired, during a "rebuild/retool" process where we have had the worst prospect pool for a very long duration, that is what is concerning.
Jason Garrison for a 2nd (great move)
3rd round pick for Dorsett (has been a good pick dealt)
Kesler and a 3rd for Bonino, Sbisa, 1st and 3rd (well..)
2nd round pick for Vey (we know)
Mallet and a 3rd for Pedan (we know)
Forsling for Glendening (still makes me sad)
2nd round pick for Baer (great great trade)
Eddie Lack for a 3rd and a 7th (unreal trade, love to see this, both because of lack and picks)
Kassian and a 5th for Prust (we know)
Bonino, Clendening, 2nd for Sutter and a 3rd (we know)
Jensen and a 7th for Etem (we know)
Shinkaruk for Granlund (great great trade)
5th for Philip Larsen (we know)
McCann + 2nd + 4th for Gudbranson and a 5th.
Losing 1 3rd or 1 4th round pick is not a big deal, but losing picks from rounds 2-7 start to become significant when they routinely become part of these hockey trades. I am a big advocate of Benning drafting, especially after his latest draft, which I believe he could have potentially snagged value at nearly all picks made. I just wish, at this stage in the game for the Canucks, that he was acquiring picks instead of dealing them. I really hope Benning makes me eat my words though. - Codes1087
Holy crap, seriously. Benning made a trade, the trade somehow required that a 4th round pick be included.
I could give two sh!ts what is included, I'm a fan of the team and I'll cheer for them until I no longer cheer for them.
I do not understand why everything has to be criticized to such detail that the stress being communicated is overwhelmingly unhealthy.
By articulating in detail, to a joke post I was making, help you feel at ease or does that make you get ramped up. If you feel better, and it puts you into a zen environment, well carry on, and in the same token I'll continue with the levity.
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Makita
Referee Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC Joined: 02.16.2007
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- LordHumungous
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Holy crap, seriously. Benning made a trade, the trade somehow required that a 4th round pick be included.
I could give two sh!ts what is included, I'm a fan of the team and I'll cheer for them until I no longer cheer for them.
I do not understand why everything has to be criticized to such detail that the stress being communicated is overwhelmingly unhealthy.
By articulating in detail, to a joke post I was making, help you feel at ease or does that make you get ramped up. If you feel better, and it puts you into a zen environment, well carry on, and in the same token I'll continue with the levity. - Makita
lol I am one of the most chill guys on here, but I feel that it makes more sense for me to back up my logic with reasoning instead of going off on an uneducated, statless filled tangent isn't something that is overly welcomed here. And believe me, I am already in my Zen place, OB doctor told us we should expect our 1st born anytime now, I am definitely maintaining a state of zen |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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If Pouliot gets hit on the head at the right angle, he may forget the past 5 years and have a shot at developing. Dude makes mistakes like crazy, whatever they told him completely shot his ability to read the play.
When they drafted him, he was the center piece of the prospects. The next Letang. The only way he develops is if he plays 70+ games this season with a long leash and no expectation of making the playoffs. - eNDSo
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee Joined: 10.22.2011
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Holy crap, seriously. Benning made a trade, the trade somehow required that a 4th round pick be included.
I could give two sh!ts what is included, I'm a fan of the team and I'll cheer for them until I no longer cheer for them.
I do not understand why everything has to be criticized to such detail that the stress being communicated is overwhelmingly unhealthy.
By articulating in detail, to a joke post I was making, help you feel at ease or does that make you get ramped up. If you feel better, and it puts you into a zen environment, well carry on, and in the same token I'll continue with the levity. - Makita
You must have noticed that JB's trading record is a sensitive subject around here.
And I think Codes comment is serious because it's echoed by many experts and insiders in the MSM. It's an online running joke. Hall of fame memes have been created on the subject.
There is a widely viewed perception that JB unnecessarily trades away draft picks that other GMs don't seem to do in similar circumstances. True or not it exists. |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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- LordHumungous
He gave you that pic of him in total trust and you post it? That is low.
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Makita
Referee Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC Joined: 02.16.2007
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lol I am one of the most chill guys on here, but I feel that it makes more sense for me to back up my logic with reasoning instead of going off on an uneducated, statless filled tangent isn't something that is overly welcomed here. And believe me, I am already in my Zen place, OB doctor told us we should expect our 1st born anytime now, I am definitely maintaining a state of zen - Codes1087
I am truly happy for you, I hope everything goes well for Mrs. Codes.
I do know it's seems to be common practice to criticize most things, but until the details surrounding the entire situation is known, (about any transaction) people are basing their thoughts and comments on a report...what was Bennings conversation and what was Rutherfords conversation. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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You must have noticed that JB's trading record is a sensitive subject around here.
And I think Codes comment is serious because it's echoed by many experts and insiders in the MSM. It's an online running joke. Hall of fame memes have been created on the subject.
There is a widely viewed perception that JB unnecessarily trades away draft picks that other GMs don't seem to do in similar circumstances. True or not it exists. - bloatedmosquito
my comment had zero shred of animosity, hostility, or anger. I just feel like people respect your responses on here more if you have statistics, history, data, etc and your thoughts are eloquently laid out in a readable manner. Its so easy to Harp on Benning for throwing away picks, or harping on Benning for making bad signings, but your posts are really for nothing without statistical data or rational thinking to back that up, which is why so many posters here are either really liked or really disliked, because they either offer up that evidence and make rational posts or they don't. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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You must have noticed that JB's trading record is a sensitive subject around here.
And I think Codes comment is serious because it's echoed by many experts and insiders in the MSM. It's an online running joke. Hall of fame memes have been created on the subject.
There is a widely viewed perception that JB unnecessarily trades away draft picks that other GMs don't seem to do in similar circumstances. True or not it exists. - bloatedmosquito
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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I am truly happy for you, I hope everything goes well for Mrs. Codes.
I do know it's seems to be common practice to criticize most things, but until the details surrounding the entire situation is known, (about any transaction) people are basing their thoughts and comments on a report...what was Bennings conversation and what was Rutherfords conversation. - Makita
Thank you sir. We are very anxious, but very excited.
I hope you didn't take my comment with any ill will. I definitely meant no harm in it. I was just trying to back up my thinking with some statistical evidence is all |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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Kind of like WD coached Etem and Vey. - manvanfan
It's the same every time they bring in a coach. It leaves most scratching their heads but here's what I think happens. The GM simply approaches it like this,,,, he chooses to bring in that fringe depth for the 6/7/8 D spot and 4rth line by asking the new coach about who he gave minutes to for filling those roles in his past experience from a list of depth players available in the NHL. It reduces the risk that you waste your time by bringing in or calling up players that the coach doesn't play due to no familiarity or trust. Sometimes the GM recognises the value in this and goes the extra inch to acquire that player(throw in a late pick). It's a rational approach.
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