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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 28 @ 4:52 PM ET
What ever happened to just hitting someone else though? Stopping the game to fight someone after every hit is stupid, and it doesn't prevent a guy from getting hit in the first place. You think a guy is gonna pull up so he doesn't have to fight someone?

Don't tell me hitting one of their guys or scoring a goal against the guy that leveled your teammate wouldn't feel better or build cohesion, BUDDEH

- YuenglingJagr

That's what I'm saying though, it's not about policing, it's about having your teammate's back.

Lol at buddeh
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 28 @ 4:53 PM ET
That's what I'm saying though, it's not about policing, it's about having your teammate's back.

Lol at buddeh

- Giroux_Is_God

It sounded as though you were in support of "having your teammate's back" even though it is an incredibly annoying part of today's game
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 28 @ 4:56 PM ET
D partners should be barking directions at each other at all times. Doesn't matter how experienced either one is. 4 eyes are better than 2.
- Baxter27

Someone isn't getting it
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Sep 28 @ 4:58 PM ET
Someone isn't getting it
- 2Real


What's to get is it's typical exaggeration and grasping at straws to rip on Macdonald. He's been fine this pre season and if it were not for the 3 rookie defensemen earning their spots, I'd be fine with him in the top 6.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Sep 28 @ 5:00 PM ET
It's not about fighting Morin because it was cheap (which it wasn't), it's about fighting for your teammate. You really think Farnham went after Morin in a fit of rage because of a cheap shot? You really think NHL players who have played this game for all but 3 years of their lives don't allow hitting anymore or understand what's dirty and what isn't?

If my teammate gets leveled, I'll jump in and fight the guy not because he threw a chicken wing elbow, but because he's my teammate and that's what I feel obliged to do.

I remember I got trucked, completely clean, and my buddy jumped in on the guy. I was fine, popped right up, but that's the poop that builds a cohesive team. You remember that and soon, you're not playing hockey with a bunch of hockey players, you're playing with your family, for lack of a better clichè. That's important to winning.

- Giroux_Is_God


I would fight someone over the Internet to defend your honor.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 28 @ 5:00 PM ET
It sounded as though you were in support of "having your teammate's back" even though it is an incredibly annoying part of today's game
- YuenglingJagr

I am though

It doesn't annoy me as much as it annoys a lot of other people tbh. It doesn't happen after every hit, but it does after anyone gets blown up, and that's fine imo

Let's not lose sight of the fact that Farnham is doing that also because it's preseason and that's his role. In other words the fact that he's trying to make the team in the first place might have played a role in him going after Morin.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 28 @ 5:01 PM ET
I would fight someone over the Internet to defend your honor.
- Mononoke

ty bb

get that yingling guy, he's a real meanhieface
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 28 @ 6:09 PM ET
ty bb

get that yingling guy, he's a real meanhieface

- Giroux_Is_God

I'm a drinker, not a fighter. Unless you (frank) with my scotch. Do that and I'll beat you so bad that you will curse the day your parents first met.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Sep 28 @ 6:30 PM ET
What's to get is it's typical exaggeration and grasping at straws to rip on Macdonald. He's been fine this pre season and if it were not for the 3 rookie defensemen earning their spots, I'd be fine with him in the top 6.
- Baxter27


Amac is death by a thousand paper cuts. He's a perfect #7 at this point in his career
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Sep 28 @ 6:35 PM ET
I have to strongly disagree here. In my opinion, Patrick is absolutely NHL ready. His skating is not as strong as it will be once he gets in better game skating shape and gets stronger but his play away from the puck and his hockey sense is NHL caliber.

I also think you're wrong about Couturier. He can fill a 2nd line center role on a serious contender.

- MJL


Like I said, I'm assuming Patrick will be on the opening night roster, and I agree he has shown good "hockey sense", whatever that means - a responsible two way player? OK. Good awareness on the ice. Fine.

He just hasn't been that noticeable, other than the fact that I try and focus on him when he's on the ice. Two assists doesn't get me too excited. I see the same potential everyone else does but I hope his lack of production is due to his lack of conditioning. I'm hoping he'll find that other step soon and we'll all be able to see what he's really capable of.

Hey, I'm in the kid's corner big time. But so far, I've seen only small glimpses.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 28 @ 6:42 PM ET
The thing is "being ready" is virtually meaningless. I can imagine exceptions but not on this Flyers team. The kids all seem to be on the verge of winning roster spots on merit. They are better players than the guys they're competing against today.



- fls13

It's not meaningless. If they weren't NHL ready they wouldn't be able to play well enough to earn a spot. They were never going to gifted a spot based on pedigree.


Exactly. Filppula I really like. He filled a hole last year they were desperate to fill and the team played much better after he got here. They were hard up for quality forwards and still are to an extent.


- fls13


I agree. They had a need for a center at the time for the short term. They didn't know then that they were going to be able to draft Patrick or that they would acquire Lehtera.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 28 @ 6:46 PM ET
Like I said, I'm assuming Patrick will be on the opening night roster, and I agree he has shown good "hockey sense", whatever that means - a responsible two way player? OK. Good awareness on the ice. Fine.

He just hasn't been that noticeable, other than the fact that I try and focus on him when he's on the ice. Two assists doesn't get me too excited. I see the same potential everyone else does but I hope his lack of production is due to his lack of conditioning. I'm hoping he'll find that other step soon and we'll all be able to see what he's really capable of.

Hey, I'm in the kid's corner big time. But so far, I've seen only small glimpses.

- 77rams


I think we've seen a different player. The player I've seen is not only ready to play in the NHL but I also think he's going to be an impact player in this league in a few years. I say that even knowing that he is not at full motor yet.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 28 @ 6:50 PM ET
I am though

It doesn't annoy me as much as it annoys a lot of other people tbh. It doesn't happen after every hit, but it does after anyone gets blown up, and that's fine imo

Let's not lose sight of the fact that Farnham is doing that also because it's preseason and that's his role. In other words the fact that he's trying to make the team in the first place might have played a role in him going after Morin.

- Giroux_Is_God


I agree it's pre season and Farnham is trying to earn a job but there was no real reason for a fight there. It was a clean hard hit within the flow of the game. That kind of nonsense needs to be cut out.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 28 @ 6:50 PM ET
I think we've seen a different player. The player I've seen is not only ready to play in the NHL but I also think he's going to be an impact player in this league in a few years. I say that even knowing that he is not at full motor yet.
- MJL

Exactly, the kid, coming off surgery, has now been playing competitive hockey for what? A week or 2? It's going to take time for his legs and core to regain full strength. Once he does, look out. The hockey sense and smarts are already there. The kid is going to be a stud.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Sep 28 @ 6:51 PM ET
It's not meaningless. If they weren't NHL ready they wouldn't be able to play well enough to earn a spot. They were never going to gifted a spot based on pedigree.




I agree. They had a need for a center at the time for the short term. They didn't know then that they were going to be able to draft Patrick or that they would acquire Lehtera.

- MJL


I think it is for the rookies the Flyers have right now. Tell me Rubtsov and Myers aren't ready. I can buy that. I'm watching the rookies left outplay the guys they have to beat for jobs now.

It doesn't look like Lehtera is going to find a Top 9 role. The centers for now are Coots/Patrick/Filppula/Laughton until further notice. I'm reasonably OK with that. Voracek needs to get going so I can see what that top line really looks like. I actually like the next two lines and the 4th line as well. They just need to finish more. I don't care who does it or how.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 28 @ 7:10 PM ET
Link to game please?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 28 @ 7:17 PM ET
Trade Read to the Blues.
- Streit2ThePoint


Just give him to the Blues
Bonerfide69
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: North Pole
Joined: 01.31.2017

Sep 28 @ 7:22 PM ET
Can they fly in Schenn just for the PP
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Sep 28 @ 7:24 PM ET
Sanheim with Provorov. Me likey
kej83
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oc, NJ
Joined: 10.19.2010

Sep 28 @ 7:28 PM ET
oh look, manning late on his man in front of the net. thank god for the hand pass to nullify the goal
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Sep 28 @ 7:31 PM ET
oh look, manning late on his man in front of the net. thank god for the hand pass to nullify the goal
- kej83


I noticed that. Lehtera didn't exactly have Marchand either.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Sep 28 @ 7:32 PM ET
Voracek should be ready for training camp to start any day now.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Sep 28 @ 7:33 PM ET
Ooooo what a play
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Sep 28 @ 7:34 PM ET
Just tuned in. Excellent execution on the PP
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 28 @ 7:35 PM ET
oh my dear god. Was that a pp goal??
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