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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Sep 28 @ 10:43 AM ET
The "new" NHL is a young league.....20 years ago you would never have 6 rookies in the lineup to start a year......I do remember Tocchet, Zezel and Derek Smith one year though....I might be getting old but weren't all three rookies together in the mid 80's. excuse me if I'm wrong, it was like 30 years ago...lol
- landros 2



i remember going into that season thinking this team is so young, they aren't going to be too good but it should be interesting because of the youth. they weren't all rookies but they had Craven 20, Zezel 19, Smith 19, Tocchet 20, Brown 21 and the Sutter twins 20. The oldest guy on that team was Cookie Dvorak at 32 and Howe at 29. what a great season that ended up being.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 28 @ 11:08 AM ET
for sure Macdonald is a better option.....I could care less if we lost Manning to waivers. There are other kids on their way. Time to take the training wheels off and take the best 7 D men.
- landros 2



Manning is still a valuable player asset and I don't see a need to lose him when you don't have to.
goenzoy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.11.2014

Sep 28 @ 11:11 AM ET
Voracek looked extremely fluid and smooth skating in the last win vs the Rangers, the preseason is usually where veterans try out new things, strategies, routes to pucks, etc. His skating seems very strong for being preseason, he is not someone I am worried about.

What am I worried about is G in the LW experiment. If after say, 10 games, it doesn't look good, are they gonna scrap it? Does such a move require more than 10 games? Then how many, 20, 40? If they were going to do it, do it 100%, dont just hope he catches lightning in a bottle and has 17 points in 10 games, thats extremely improbable.

However, if they do stick to the experiment, I think LW seems pretty strong, with G, Weal/Konecny, Lindblom, and whoever else they decide to put there (Filppula, Raffl, Laughton, etc.)

- sjk540



Well maybe I only have seen the wrong game
Change of duty for G is long overdue lets see how it goes with LW
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 28 @ 11:12 AM ET
#VDVwatch2017pt2
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Sep 28 @ 11:18 AM ET
Manning is still a valuable player asset and I don't see a need to lose him when you don't have to.
- MJL

I think the team would agree with you as well..

I think it goes one of two ways. Sanheim is up, MacDonald is down. MacDonald is up and one of the rookies are down.
Boyer83
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ft Worth, TX
Joined: 12.16.2011

Sep 28 @ 11:21 AM ET
I am loving those Defensemen pairs on your update!!!
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 28 @ 11:22 AM ET
Manning is still a valuable player asset and I don't see a need to lose him when you don't have to.
- MJL



For me i feel they have to keep all 3.

Maybe it might not seem right but if Hextall is true to his word, i think all 3 have pushed a veteran out and that is what he wants.

Now i know he could always say (so and so needs time to refine his game) but for me i think it would be a strong message to the youth and just to the organization for hextall to keep ll 3 rookies and say " They earned it so they are staying"
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Sep 28 @ 11:36 AM ET
Bill's probably right based on the Hex/Hak track record, but I don't like it. All 3 young Dmen, IMO, have earned their spots.
- BiggE


Yup!
I could see if Manning gave the defense a specific element that they were missing, but he really doesn't. If all 3 have earned it there's no reason to keep Manning up over any of the 3. it's not like we are talking about a seasoned veteran here.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Sep 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
i remember going into that season thinking this team is so young, they aren't going to be too good but it should be interesting because of the youth. they weren't all rookies but they had Craven 20, Zezel 19, Smith 19, Tocchet 20, Brown 21 and the Sutter twins 20. The oldest guy on that team was Cookie Dvorak at 32 and Howe at 29. what a great season that ended up being.
- nastyflyergirl


they seem very similar to this.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 28 @ 11:48 AM ET
I think it's kind of odd that Konecny will play his 6th game of the preseason while Leier (3 games) and Lindblom (4 games) have a rest.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 28 @ 11:50 AM ET
I think it's kind of odd that Konecny will play his 6th game of the preseason while Leier (3 games) and Lindblom (4 games) have a rest.
- Feanor

agreed....though they are moving him around a bit it seems
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Sep 28 @ 11:52 AM ET
That starting lineup just need a tiny tweeking, Patrick and Couter switch spots and Hagg in for Manning who becomes #7 dman and MacDonald waived and sent to LV
Provorov and Sanheim is exciting!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 28 @ 11:52 AM ET
I think it's kind of odd that Konecny will play his 6th game of the preseason while Leier (3 games) and Lindblom (4 games) have a rest.
- Feanor


He doesn't seem the worse for wear. He looks really good right now.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 28 @ 11:52 AM ET
It will also be the 6th preseason game for Patrick and Sanheim.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 28 @ 11:53 AM ET
It will also be the 6th preseason game for Patrick and Sanheim.
- Feanor

Provy/Konecny treatment
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Sep 28 @ 11:54 AM ET
Yup!
I could see if Manning gave the defense a specific element that they were missing, but he really doesn't. If all 3 have earned it there's no reason to keep Manning up over any of the 3. it's not like we are talking about a seasoned veteran here.

- puckhead17



personally I keep all 3 and waive AMAC. Manning may or may not get claimed but I really don't want to take that chance. its inevitable that injuries will happen and I'd sooner have the capability to call AMAC up than having to call up Brennan or Alt in case of injury.

I also keep Leier over Read. to me Leier has done a nice job and once again I'd sooner not risk losing him, granted they have more depth at forward, and besides I do think he has earned the place on the team.

let Raffl, Leier, laughton, Lehtera and Weise all fight for playing time. And lets be real, you know there will be times they feel Patrick and Lindblom needs a seat. its just inevitable
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
Provy/Konecny treatment
- YuenglingJagr


Yes those guys who were bubble battle for roster spots should play as much as possible.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 28 @ 11:58 AM ET
Blues talking about signing Jagr.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Sep 28 @ 11:58 AM ET
personally I keep all 3 and waive AMAC. Manning may or may not get claimed but I really don't want to take that chance. its inevitable that injuries will happen and I'd sooner have the capability to call AMAC up than having to call up Brennan or Alt in case of injury.

I also keep Leier over Read. to me Leier has done a nice job and once again I'd sooner not risk losing him, granted they have more depth at forward, and besides I do think he has earned the place on the team.

let Raffl, Leier, laughton, Lehtera and Weise all fight for playing time. And lets be real, you know there will be times they feel Patrick and Lindblom needs a seat. its just inevitable

- nastyflyergirl

I'd have to suggest calling up Friedman or Myers in case of injury and leaving Amac, Manning, Brennan et al right in Lehigh.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
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Joined: 09.20.2013

Sep 28 @ 12:01 PM ET
Blues talking about signing Jagr.
- Feanor


2 millies with bonuses, one year badaboom badabing
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 28 @ 12:01 PM ET
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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
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Sep 28 @ 12:04 PM ET
"The Pout Pout Fish" is an elite children's book
- YuenglingJagr

I've been reading that (frank)ing book every night for 2 months
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
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Sep 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Sep 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
I'd have to suggest calling up Friedman or Myers in case of injury and leaving Amac, Manning, Brennan et al right in Lehigh.

- mayorofangrytown



I would be shocked if they felt either was ready but for sure stranger things have happened!
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
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Sep 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
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