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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 22 @ 5:25 PM ET
Joule-*receives instaban*
- fry


He will need 2 seasons in the AHL before he is even close to ready. He can't play in the AHL next year either so I expect we see him in a Canuck jersey for a long time.
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Sep 22 @ 5:30 PM ET
He'll get 4 million... Whether it's with the Oilers or elsewhere.
- laughs2907


I'm glad it's with us.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Sep 22 @ 5:51 PM ET
morons.... morons everywhere

something something darkside

- Iggysdff


You're trying real hard to add yourself to the moron list Reveen...
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Sep 22 @ 5:53 PM ET
That Russel deal will be directly responsible for making it difficult to not only retain players, but upgrade on the backend.
It's bad for multiple reasons


Love patty, but we can't pay him 4 mil.

Even another 25 goal campaign and I'd be looking elsewhere for comparable contributions if in fact he demands those dollars .
3 mil max. Short term

- HB77


Stinky Pete will give him 5x5.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Sep 22 @ 6:22 PM ET
Stinky Pete will give him 5x5.
- Iggysbff



Some Dingaling Sabres fan on Garth's thread actually is challenging the cold hard FACT that the Oilers are the superior franchise over the Sabres. The (frank) is wrong with some people?
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Sep 22 @ 6:28 PM ET
I'm glad it's with us.
- Oildrum


What? You would actually pay Maroon 4 mil or more? For how long? And exactly how retarded are you?

I like Maroon but if he didn't just have his career year in both Goals and points and will exceed those totals as an Oiler I will quit HockeyBuzzing forever. That's right. If A)Maroon exceeds either his points or goal totals as an Oilers , proving that B) Oildumb isnt as stupid as I think he is, that will be the last time you see ol' Larsson_fan post on this gay site.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 7:08 PM ET
Pretty sure that's as much on the Sekera, Lucic (especially given his similar role) and even the Nuge deals as it is on the Russell deal. I get that it's your belief that Russell is far less worthy of his contract than those two, but this was a foregone conclusion the moment we got McDavid. One way or another, this team would have a harder time retaining mid-tier talent. It didn't help but it's not directly responsible.

As for upgrading on defense, I don't know that that's entirely necessary. While my personal belief is that a 3 year deal would've been FAR better, the extra deal is manageable. He was a zero-cost placeholder to take on tougher minutes for the next year or two until Nurse and Benning is fully prepared to usurp him and Sekera.

The way I see it, we were looking at stomaching this contract, dealing our future for Hamonic or signing a far less proven and perhaps less effective veteran to fill the gap. As a result of Sekera's expected absence, I don't believe that last one was an option worth considering.

- MaximumBone

But all those other deals were already signed. Before Leon and connor had their monster years too.

Of course every dollar is equitable in the truest sense, but russels overpayment After the fact seems like a desperation move. Not only that, but sekera is a far better defencemen too. In fact, if we wanna upgrade, it's probably through him rather than through Russel. im not even certain Russel has any value at present

And as u said - he's a placeholder. So the best case is that one of the kids takes his spot and then we're paying him 4 mil for multiple seasons to play 3rd pair.

I think there's any number of comparable dmen that coulda been had for much less term. I believe chiarelli got spooked when sekera went down and didnt wanna derail any forward progress and got suckered into giving him too much money and way too much term. Because he was convinced Russel is a bigger part of our success than he really was.
Shoulda been 2 years max. He's gonna be an absolute liability beyond that


The guy knows how to build a winner in the nhl. But he's an awful negotiator and wastes way too many "assets" to realize those visions
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 7:14 PM ET
I'm glad it's with us.
- Oildrum

You'd pay pat maroon 4 mil over multiple years ?

If he hits 20+ again, he'll be asking 4x4 . Maybe more

Ud do it?
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Sep 22 @ 7:24 PM ET
You'd pay pat maroon 4 mil over multiple years ?

If he hits 20+ again, he'll be asking 4x4 . Maybe more

Ud do it?

- HB77



Chris Kunitz, Anson Carter, Mikhael Renberg, Pascal Dupuis, Ville Lieno, Jonathan Cheechoo, Steve Ruchin, Mike York......Patrick Maroon.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Sep 22 @ 7:55 PM ET
Chris Kunitz, Anson Carter, Mikhael Renberg, Pascal Dupuis, Ville Lieno, Jonathan Cheechoo, Steve Ruchin, Mike York......Patrick Maroon.
- Larsson_fan

What do they all have in common?
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Sep 22 @ 8:32 PM ET
What do they all have in common?
- Ihatebrianburke

Good Hockey players that played on lines way above their talent level and in some cases, were way overpaid as a result.

Look, before people spazz out and label me a Maroon hater and hopeful that he fails, I like him and hope he does well helping my team win games, but I would think we can find another okay player that can score 40 ish points on McDavids left for 2 million bucks rather than pay Maroon 4 million dollars of precious cap space.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Sep 22 @ 9:08 PM ET
Good Hockey players that played on lines way above their talent level and in some cases, were way overpaid as a result.

Look, before people spazz out and label me a Maroon hater and hopeful that he fails, I like him and hope he does well helping my team win games, but I would think we can find another okay player that can score 40 ish points on McDavids left for 2 million bucks rather than pay Maroon 4 million dollars of precious cap space.

- Larsson_fan

Cheechoo lead the Sharks in scoring one year with 56 goals and 93 points. A team with Marleau and Thorton in their prime. I don't know how he could play so well one year and then have his game completely go to poop.
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Sep 22 @ 9:20 PM ET
morons.... morons everywhere

something something darkside

- Iggysdff

Classic Iggy right there.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Sep 22 @ 9:23 PM ET
Cheechoo lead the Sharks in scoring one year with 56 goals and 93 points. A team with Marleau and Thorton in their prime. I don't know how he could play so well one year and then have his game completely go to poop.
- Ihatebrianburke


Cheechoo was always an okay Hockey player, but he just had some great chemistry with one of the greatest passers in the game for a stretch, and some incredible luck. It happens. Thats the whole point with Maroon. He's not Todd Bertuzzi. In fact, he's closer to Dave Lumley.

Glen Sather was a genius because he never overpaid guys like Maroon and he shipped them off when their value was at their highest.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Sep 22 @ 9:48 PM ET
Cheechoo was always an okay Hockey player, but he just had some great chemistry with one of the greatest passers in the game for a stretch, and some incredible luck. It happens. Thats the whole point with Maroon. He's not Todd Bertuzzi. In fact, he's closer to Dave Lumley.

Glen Sather was a genius because he never overpaid guys like Maroon and he shipped them off when their value was at their highest.

- Larsson_fan

Best GM of all time in my books
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Sep 22 @ 9:58 PM ET
Chris Kelly doesn't look very good. Yammy needs to play with someone with more talent than him.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 22 @ 10:37 PM ET




Bachman is really taking care of business out there.


Wonder if he'll be working overtime?

leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Sep 22 @ 10:47 PM ET
Bachman is really taking care of business out there.


Wonder if he'll be working overtime?

- robin_steele264

Is this still a thing?
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 22 @ 10:50 PM ET
Is this still a thing?
- leonkennedy




You make hay when the sun shines.


EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Sep 22 @ 11:01 PM ET
Cheechoo was always an okay Hockey player, but he just had some great chemistry with one of the greatest passers in the game for a stretch, and some incredible luck. It happens. Thats the whole point with Maroon. He's not Todd Bertuzzi. In fact, he's closer to Dave Lumley.

Glen Sather was a genius because he never overpaid guys like Maroon and he shipped them off when their value was at their highest.

- Larsson_fan


Which is what I think needs to be done with Maroon quite soon. Wonder what he could fetch us.

If Khaira continues his decency dues, along with JJ continuing to do well, we could possibly see Maroon gone for some picks (maybe 2nd and a 3rd?). Thing is, Chia is actually considering to extend him and knowing him, the price is gonna be high. If it's over 3m per for 3y+, well, crap.

I would love Chia to adopt a strategy similar to Sather's but we all know that ain't happening.
FransNielson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.15.2017

Sep 22 @ 11:14 PM ET
Pakarinen.
Iggysdff
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary , AB
Joined: 07.18.2017

Sep 22 @ 11:36 PM ET
Pakarinen.
- FransNielson

Can't believe that shrimp Yamamoto is playing so well
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Sep 22 @ 11:43 PM ET
A pic of Kailer Yamamoto taken nearly 6 weeks ago

leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Sep 22 @ 11:54 PM ET
Pakarinen.
- FransNielson

Make like a can of Lemon Pledge, and (frank) OFF!!!
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Sep 22 @ 11:56 PM ET
Can't believe that shrimp Yamamoto is playing so well
- Iggysdff

And this pisses you off because you in your infinite wisdom would have picked someone else in this years draft if you were the GM? Classic Iggy
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