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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 15 @ 4:09 PM ET
Taylor Hall?
https://www.nhl.com/news/...torn-meniscus/c-283800356

- jmatchett383


Apparently that was a meniscectomy, like the one that caused Mason to miss a few weeks in 2015.

https://www.thefantasydoc...gery-dr-parekh-%ef%bb%bf/
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Sep 15 @ 4:10 PM ET
Can you give an example of an NHL player who returned in that time period from meniscal repair surgery?

Mason in 2008, Gudas in 2015 and Stamkos in 2016 all missed four months or more.

- Feanor

Id have to go and look but as JMac said above Taylor Hall..

Usually if its just a meniscus tear they will clean it up and its a fairly quick turnaround. Honestly sometimes the hold up on returning is actually making sure the skin is healed from where they made the cuts for the scope.

Its usually when there is some sort of articular cartilage damage that they do other things and the recovery is longer. Things like micro fracture surgery or ACI (cartilage implant) are reasons for longer term recovery...

I work in sports medicine btw..
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 15 @ 4:10 PM ET
I think his point is that the injury was a bad one and he won't be back soon.
- Scoob


We already knew that, though.

I was trying to find out what else is "going on".
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Sep 15 @ 4:10 PM ET
I think his point is that the injury was a bad one and he won't be back soon.
- Scoob

Exactly.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Sep 15 @ 4:12 PM ET
We already knew that, though.

I was trying to find out what else is "going on".

- Feanor

my guess is cartilage damage.

Menisectomy is just one way to treat a meniscus tear. Debridement is another. Usually they are both relatively quick healing times depending on severity.

https://www.aapc.com/memb...ement-vs-menisectomy.html
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 15 @ 4:15 PM ET
Day 1 observations https://www.nhl.com/flyer...elphia-flyers/c-291069326
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 15 @ 4:28 PM ET
Id have to go and look but as JMac said above Taylor Hall..

Usually if its just a meniscus tear they will clean it up and its a fairly quick turnaround. Honestly sometimes the hold up on returning is actually making sure the skin is healed from where they made the cuts for the scope.

Its usually when there is some sort of articular cartilage damage that they do other things and the recovery is longer. Things like micro fracture surgery or ACI (cartilage implant) are reasons for longer term recovery...

I work in sports medicine btw..

- jak521


Mensicus repairs have a long recovery time if the area that was torn has poor blood flow.

Parise is another guy who missed five months after a meniscus repair.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 15 @ 4:36 PM ET
Day 1 observations https://www.nhl.com/flyer...elphia-flyers/c-291069326
- bmeltzer

Fantastic Bill, thanks. Looking forward to your daily updates throughout camp
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 15 @ 4:36 PM ET
NONE SHALL PASS PROVOROV

* With almost machine-like precision, Ivan Provorov thwarted attackers in drills off the rush. They couldn't go wide on him, nor could they muscle past him to move inside the dots. There's a good reason why he won the Barry Ashbee Trophy last season and led the defense in ice time. The scariest part with Provorov is that he's still only scratched the surface of his talents.

- jmatchett383


Reading that literally made me smile
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Sep 15 @ 5:22 PM ET
What? NO feedback in Amac's first day of hockey camp?
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Sep 15 @ 5:47 PM ET
Is training camp schedule the same tomorrow? Group 1 from 9:45-11:30 and group 2 from 1:15-3:30 p.m.?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 15 @ 6:06 PM ET
Let's all remember to take a break from this hockey stuff to watch the Rhys show tonight
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 15 @ 6:07 PM ET
Is training camp schedule the same tomorrow? Group 1 from 9:45-11:30 and group 2 from 1:15-3:30 p.m.?
- Dkos


Yes
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Sep 15 @ 6:43 PM ET
Let's all remember to take a break from this hockey stuff to watch the Rhys show tonight
- Giroux_Is_God



Rhys is like a... umm... a welsh name, I think... you're not talking about soccer are you?
HOWSMYDICTATE
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.30.2017

Sep 15 @ 7:36 PM ET
Rhys is like a... umm... a welsh name, I think... you're not talking about soccer are you?
- Doc_Sarcasm

Comanche Indian
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 15 @ 7:50 PM ET
hi
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 15 @ 7:53 PM ET
Comanche Indian
- HOWSMYDICTATE

I just ate the John Coctostan from Moe's
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Sep 15 @ 8:00 PM ET
I just ate the John Coctostan from Moe's
- Giroux_Is_God


Nice to see that the Phillies ran Mark Leiter Fluid out on the mound tonight, with predictable results.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 15 @ 8:01 PM ET
Nice to see that the Phillies ran Mark Leiter Fluid out on the mound tonight, with predictable results.
- Doc_Sarcasm



He's gotta stick to middle relief. This starting thing is brutal
HOWSMYDICTATE
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.30.2017

Sep 15 @ 8:12 PM ET
I just ate the John Coctostan from Moe's
- Giroux_Is_God

i guess its better than the Dr. Rosenpenis
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 15 @ 8:16 PM ET
i guess its better than the Dr. Rosenpenis
- HOWSMYDICTATE

WHERE IN THE HELL'S THE RECORDS ROOM
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 15 @ 10:24 PM ET
Lindians
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 15 @ 10:28 PM ET
Lindians
- YuenglingJagr



What a run. I'll dig it if they won the WS, I'll pull for them
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