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Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 14 @ 3:10 PM ET
Is the term to long - yes, but he absolutely would have got this as a UFA

It's only a 600k higher cap hit, per year and not sure Petan, Raslovic or anyone else were ready to step up as 2nd line centre in a year

He can always slide to the wing in the later part of the deal if his play at centre declines and or younger players step up

Overall, maybe 2 years to long but happy to have him signed
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 14 @ 3:21 PM ET
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Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Sep 14 @ 3:22 PM ET

- Feds91Stammer


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Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Sep 14 @ 4:12 PM ET
As bad as Chevy would look, I kinda wish Vegas was able to steal Dano. Our idiot coach will never let him play, and his development is suffering for it. You shouldn't have a guy be the centerpiece of a blockbuster as a 20 year old, top 6 forward just to be a healthy scratch at 22.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Sep 14 @ 4:53 PM ET
As bad as Chevy would look, I kinda wish Vegas was able to steal Dano. Our idiot coach will never let him play, and his development is suffering for it. You shouldn't have a guy be the centerpiece of a blockbuster as a 20 year old, top 6 forward just to be a healthy scratch at 22.
- Rexypoo


I couldn't agree more Rexypoo. I would have loved Vegas to just take Dano. It would have saved us a much more valuable draft pick. That all being said I think Chevy would have taken that deal all day long. Things got complicated because of Enstrom and his desire to stay in the Peg. Enstrom still has some good years left on a lesser ice-time third pairing. I think Chevy did the best he could. That lost first round pick isn't the end of the world as well have so much young talent already that we are actually overloaded.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 14 @ 4:58 PM ET
As bad as Chevy would look, I kinda wish Vegas was able to steal Dano. Our idiot coach will never let him play, and his development is suffering for it. You shouldn't have a guy be the centerpiece of a blockbuster as a 20 year old, top 6 forward just to be a healthy scratch at 22.
- Rexypoo

AA for Dano straight up.
mcjags
New Jersey Devils
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 06.12.2007

Sep 14 @ 5:10 PM ET
As bad as Chevy would look, I kinda wish Vegas was able to steal Dano. Our idiot coach will never let him play, and his development is suffering for it. You shouldn't have a guy be the centerpiece of a blockbuster as a 20 year old, top 6 forward just to be a healthy scratch at 22.
- Rexypoo

Dano wasn't getting ice-time in Chicago or Columbus before Winnipeg so not sure why this is a Maurice thing.

FYI - The Ladd trade was not a blockbuster
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Sep 14 @ 7:00 PM ET
Dano wasn't getting ice-time in Chicago or Columbus before Winnipeg so not sure why this is a Maurice thing.

FYI - The Ladd trade was not a blockbuster

- mcjags


He was traded for Brandon Saad after a rookie year where he finished with 21 points in the last 25 games as the #2 RW and the net front guy on the 1PP. He was great for Columbus because they used him properly.

Edit* yes, the Ladd trade was also a blockbuster. Trading a top line forward to a contender for a top prospect and a first rounder is definitely huge.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Sep 14 @ 7:47 PM ET
He was traded for Brandon Saad after a rookie year where he finished with 21 points in the last 25 games as the #2 RW and the net front guy on the 1PP. He was great for Columbus because they used him properly.

Edit* yes, the Ladd trade was also a blockbuster. Trading a top line forward to a contender for a top prospect and a first rounder is definitely huge.

- Rexypoo



Rex. I have to agree with Mcjags. It was not a blockbuster. I beleive it was Ladd, Harrison , and Matt Fraser ( who) for Dano, 1st round pick ( Roslovic ) , and a conditional 3rd. Jets also retained a third of Ladd salary.

Ladd ended up a bust for Chicago...Dano still a maybe at best, and Roslovic could turn out well. But it was a well known deal that Ladd was on his way out. It was also well known what Chevy's asking price was ( first rounder , and a prospect + ). Every multi-player deal does not qualify as a blockbuster. At the time the only player who had a name for himself was Ladd. There have been many many trades of players of similar calibre at trade deadlines that also wouldn't qualify as "blockbuster".
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 14 @ 8:25 PM ET
Rex. I have to agree with Mcjags. It was not a blockbuster. I beleive it was Ladd, Harrison , and Matt Fraser ( who) for Dano, 1st round pick ( Roslovic ) , and a conditional 3rd. Jets also retained a third of Ladd salary.

Ladd ended up a bust for Chicago...Dano still a maybe at best, and Roslovic could turn out well. But it was a well known deal that Ladd was on his way out. It was also well known what Chevy's asking price was ( first rounder , and a prospect + ). Every multi-player deal does not qualify as a blockbuster. At the time the only player who had a name for himself was Ladd. There have been many many trades of players of similar calibre at trade deadlines that also wouldn't qualify as "blockbuster".

- jetsnation


Roslovic came back in the Kane trade dude!
mcjags
New Jersey Devils
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 06.12.2007

Sep 14 @ 8:52 PM ET
He was traded for Brandon Saad after a rookie year where he finished with 21 points in the last 25 games as the #2 RW and the net front guy on the 1PP. He was great for Columbus because they used him properly.

Edit* yes, the Ladd trade was also a blockbuster. Trading a top line forward to a contender for a top prospect and a first rounder is definitely huge.

- Rexypoo

Yeah, that 21 in 25 stat is not correct...sorry. I have nothing against Dano, and he was given some chance last season. His injury happened at a bad time.

I'm not going to get into semantics about what makes a blockbuster trade. For me personally, an upcoming UFA on a non playoff team being traded for a pick and a borderline top prospect isn't one. Big name for big name is, Subban for Weber as an example.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Sep 14 @ 11:31 PM ET
Roslovic came back in the Kane trade dude!
- TheUltimateJet


I stand corrected. I believe the pick ( 22nd ) after another trade ended up being Logan Stanley (18th) . Nothing to write home about.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Sep 14 @ 11:57 PM ET
While I think Little's deal is too long and will almost certainly cost us a core player later on, here's my hopeful lineup in 2 years:
Laine-Scheifele-Ehlers
Connor-Roslovic-Wheeler
Vesalainen-Little-Dano
Foley-Lowry-Copp

Morrissey-Trouba
Niku-Byfuglien
Enstrom-(anyone)

Hellebuyck
Comrie
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Sep 15 @ 7:23 AM ET
While I think Little's deal is too long and will almost certainly cost us a core player later on, here's my hopeful lineup in 2 years:
Laine-Scheifele-Ehlers
Connor-Roslovic-Wheeler
Vesalainen-Little-Dano
Foley-Lowry-Copp

Morrissey-Trouba
Niku-Byfuglien
Enstrom-(anyone)

Hellebuyck
Comrie

- Rexypoo


I would show a little more love to Harkins and Spacek two years out. Foley ??? Hard to say if Poolman sticks around. Trouba may not because it appears to me he really wants to be in the East plus his agent is a real wiener. Big trade still possible there. I would also like to think that one of either Myers or Kulikov will stick around. I also think Little will still be 2nd line center but that part is just semantics. Finally , where is Perreault. His five year contract will still be in play and he is light years better than either Copp or Dano.
mcjags
New Jersey Devils
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 06.12.2007

Sep 15 @ 8:14 AM ET
While I think Little's deal is too long and will almost certainly cost us a core player later on, here's my hopeful lineup in 2 years:
Laine-Scheifele-Ehlers
Connor-Roslovic-Wheeler
Vesalainen-Little-Dano
Foley-Lowry-Copp

Morrissey-Trouba
Niku-Byfuglien
Enstrom-(anyone)

Hellebuyck
Comrie

- Rexypoo

I actually like that foreward lineup. Roslovic and Little could flip as I think he's 3 years from being a 2C. I'd like to see Lemieux on the right side of the 4th line or at least Armia still in the top 12.

I think Niku is a stretch, Kulikov should still be here unless he flames out. Poolman is more likely to be in the top 6...and Stanley would have had a year with the Moose...and should show improvement...right?
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Sep 15 @ 11:09 AM ET
Dano is really not that good. If he was, he would be playing.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Sep 15 @ 11:59 AM ET
I actually like that foreward lineup. Roslovic and Little could flip as I think he's 3 years from being a 2C. I'd like to see Lemieux on the right side of the 4th line or at least Armia still in the top 12.

I think Niku is a stretch, Kulikov should still be here unless he flames out. Poolman is more likely to be in the top 6...and Stanley would have had a year with the Moose...and should show improvement...right?

- mcjags


Lemieux is a bust. Armia is gone in this version, as is Perreault and Kulikov. Kulikov flamed out in 2014. Stanley is also considered a bust, and Poolman likely doesn't make the Jets.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM ET
Dano is really not that good. If he was, he would be playing.
- bennythehat


You're just... you're wrong. Connor is better than anyone in our bottom 6, and he was last year, too. He didn't play. Same goes for Postma playing under Chiarot, Stuart, and Melchiori. The stupidity of Maurice and co. cannot be overstated.
sparky1957
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 11.03.2016

Sep 15 @ 12:01 PM ET
I couldn't agree more Rexypoo. I would have loved Vegas to just take Dano. It would have saved us a much more valuable draft pick. That all being said I think Chevy would have taken that deal all day long. Things got complicated because of Enstrom and his desire to stay in the Peg. Enstrom still has some good years left on a lesser ice-time third pairing. I think Chevy did the best he could. That lost first round pick isn't the end of the world as well have so much young talent already that we are actually overloaded.
- jetsnation

Thought it was a third round pick not to take Dano? to Vegas
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