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winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 14 @ 10:17 AM ET
Boston's defense is up in the air. If McAvoy doesn't step in as a top-4 they're going to hurt. Chara can't keep eating 24 minutes a night.
- AdamFrench


Agree, Bergeron is still a stud and as much as I don't like that douchebag Marchand - can be a very good player. One intangible that the Bruins have is the fans are animals for the most part, no team likes to play there.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 14 @ 10:17 AM ET
6.66 for Pastrnak. Id give Nylander that deal happily.
- ClarksonDavid

That Pastrnak deal was perfect for you guys
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Sep 14 @ 10:17 AM ET
He'll get 70+ points, probably be around 7.9mln/year.
- MaximusAurelius

Pretty hard ask after pastrnak just signed that deal.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 14 @ 10:18 AM ET
He'll get 70+ points, probably be around 7.9mln/year.
- MaximusAurelius

Well he has to get better than pasternaks 70 points to snif even 7 million
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 14 @ 10:18 AM ET
He'll get 70+ points, probably be around 7.9mln/year.
- MaximusAurelius

For Marner?

WTF? He'll be in the 50's next year.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Sep 14 @ 10:18 AM ET
He'll get 70+ points, probably be around 7.9mln/year.
- MaximusAurelius

Willie will outscore Marner. I would almost guarantee it. Barring injury he is going to ride shotgun with Matthews for 82 games.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 14 @ 10:19 AM ET
That Pastrnak deal was perfect for you guys
- 21peter



The Pastrnak deal had Lou written all over it
BKups
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 01.26.2012

Sep 14 @ 10:19 AM ET
Detroit is horrible. No way they make it.

Florida lost a lot of good players. Loungo is going downhill fast.

Buffalo is meh still.

I can't see those teams making it

- Santo_44


Completely forgot about them tbh.

They're like Vancouver though, their not selling anyone off - will be an interesting to see if they continue the retool approach or go full rebuild.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 14 @ 10:20 AM ET
One more bad one for Stamkos and he might be an Island hopper.
- winsix



He has been bitten hard by the injury bug over the past few years.
BKups
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 01.26.2012

Sep 14 @ 10:20 AM ET


The Pastrnak deal had Lou written all over it

- walshyleafsfan


Lou was scene in Boston last week
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 14 @ 10:20 AM ET
Pretty hard ask after pastrnak just signed that deal.
- ClarksonDavid

I guessed 6.875 per, 8 years for Willie earlier. Could be spot on.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 14 @ 10:21 AM ET
Completely forgot about them tbh.

They're like Vancouver though, their not selling anyone off - will be an interesting to see if they continue the retool approach or go full rebuild.

- BKups


I hope they re tool...then they can be the new leafs 2004-2015
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 14 @ 10:23 AM ET
I think Pasternak is better than Draisitil Good deal
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 14 @ 10:25 AM ET
Willie will outscore Marner. I would almost guarantee it. Barring injury he is going to ride shotgun with Matthews for 82 games.
- BetterCallSaul


Maybe - hard thing to guarantee! Never bet against Marner - kid is super talented and might be the most tenacious player on the team.

Have a look at junior top lines when McDavid had the monster year (120pts in 46 games) Don't forget Marner was picked 4th in that draft and #3 pick not looking so hot so far.

http://www.hockeysfuture....hree-man-chl-line-combos/
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Sep 14 @ 10:32 AM ET
6.66 for Pastrnak. Id give Nylander that deal happily.
- ClarksonDavid



I think that's a good deal for both parties.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 14 @ 10:34 AM ET
Willie will outscore Marner. I would almost guarantee it. Barring injury he is going to ride shotgun with Matthews for 82 games.
- BetterCallSaul


If it is a line of Marleau - Matthews - Nylander, I'm sure Nylander will get alot of points.
Probably more points than Marner.
However, even with the two anchors that are JVR and Bozak, I still see Marner getting 70+ points.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 14 @ 10:38 AM ET
Pastrnak deal is good for us.
If we can get Nylander under 7.....even better.
I still believe we can get all three for under 24- 25 million per.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 14 @ 10:38 AM ET
Pastrnak deal is good for us.
If we can get Nylander under 7.....even better.
I still believe we can get all three for under 24- 25 million per.

- Fakepartofme

Nylander will want Draisaitl money....might as well accept it
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 14 @ 10:39 AM ET
If it is a line of Marleau - Matthews - Nylander, I'm sure Nylander will get alot of points.
Probably more points than Marner.
However, even with the two anchors that are JVR and Bozak, I still see Marner getting 70+ points.

- MaximusAurelius

JVR isnt an anchor, give me a break.
You need someone to dig out the pucks. I doubt you'll see a line of marleau, Matthews and nylander too much.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 14 @ 10:39 AM ET
Nylander will want Draisaitl money....might as well accept it
- Symba007

And he wont get it.
Might as well accept it.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 14 @ 10:40 AM ET
Nylander will want Draisaitl money....might as well accept it
- Symba007

Yeah Pasternak did as well....

Run along
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 14 @ 10:40 AM ET
And he wont get it.
Might as well accept it.

- Fakepartofme

so another player the Leafs will be forced to trade?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 14 @ 10:43 AM ET
so another player the Leafs will be forced to trade?
- Symba007

Not at all.
He'll sign for 7 or under.
Moving on.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 14 @ 10:43 AM ET
JVR isnt an anchor, give me a break.
- Fakepartofme


Marner needs to make up for Bozak and JVR's lack of defensive abilities and effort.

Marner is by far the superior player on that line, and he deserves to have better players with him, in order to be able to not only think D first..

Alot of people still don't realise what a special player Marner is..

It's plays like this that illustrate what he is all about:

https://youtu.be/VP5BUF1hAmE
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 14 @ 10:43 AM ET
so another player the Leafs will be forced to trade?
- Symba007

The list will be vast
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