Wow...Bogosian is now a strong skating, physical, puck moving defenseman. Then why any team can still have him for the proverbial bag of pucks?

Wonder when Sabre fans will realize it was not coaching or ill-fitted sywtems that sunk the Sabres last year, it was a general lack of talent
- BernardShakey

the brain damage is real here..

the brain damage is real here..
- Sabresfan-365

If only it was wrong.

If only it was wrong.
- sbroads24

the first part is. bogosians problem has never been his abilities, its the between the ears stuff. that and the fact that he can never play more than 2/3 of the season with 1/3 of that being spent getting back to normal after an injury that caused him to miss a 1/3 of the season.


Edit: your boy bailey with a beauty. Guhle with another apple

I believe Bogo will turn in a better season than most have come to expect from him.
My belief stems from the last few games of the season when the team virtually gave Disco Sucks the middle finger and began playing the game they all wanted to.
Bogo had several games where he carried the puck nicely out of danger versus the GD blind pass to a spot.

I see you guys found new board whipping boy(s) now that Gerbe is underwater

the first part is. bogosians problem has never been his abilities, its the between the ears stuff. that and the fact that he can never play more than 2/3 of the season with 1/3 of that being spent getting back to normal after an injury that caused him to miss a 1/3 of the season.


Edit: your boy bailey with a beauty. Guhle with another apple
- Sabresfan-365

Guhle...just wow.

Attention--- Guhle is really good...

Another goal and an assist again though 2 periods.

Guhle...just wow.
- Stripes77

Is he eligible for Rochester or is it Juniors or NHL? Also, game is streaming on Sabres.com if that hasn't been established.

the first part is. bogosians problem has never been his abilities, its the between the ears stuff. that and the fact that he can never play more than 2/3 of the season with 1/3 of that being spent getting back to normal after an injury that caused him to miss a 1/3 of the season.


Edit: your boy bailey with a beauty. Guhle with another apple
- Sabresfan-365

Sure, but at what point does the smooth skating offensive D man label become meaningless, when it never leads to any results?

It's like calling Grigorenko a big, skilled center with great play making abilities.

Guhle...just wow.
- Stripes77

man is he good.


Him, Smith, Nylander and maybe mittelstadt for the tail end plus playoffs in rochester....

Sure, but at what point does the smooth skating offensive D man label become meaningless, when it never leads to any results?

It's like calling Grigorenko a big, skilled center with great play making abilities.
- sbroads24

oh the label itself is meaningless, they've treated him like a shut down guy since he got here. just trying to give an accurate assessment of bogo's crappyness

Jesus Christ, the Leafs squeak into the playoffs for once and all of a sudden every single goddamn one of their fans think they know the secret.
- Wetbandit1

he still has the best username on hockeybuzz

oh the label itself is meaningless, they've treated him like a shut down guy since he got here. just trying to give an accurate assessment of bogo's crappyness
- Sabresfan-365

Like you have said, there was no alternative.

The brightside is that if Antipin plays well, Bogo can slide into the 3rd pairing and get some decent matchups

Like you have said, there was no alternative.

The brightside is that if Antipin plays well, Bogo can slide into the 3rd pairing and get some decent matchups
- sbroads24

i say this for risto, because of bogosian. so by extension there should have been. the d-core last year had a lot of "defence first" guys like kulikov, gorges etc. and they gave most of the tough d responsibility to ristolainen. Seems to me the set up was perfect to shelter bogo to some degree.


Its hard to see that happening now that they've added a couple of good to great skating offensive guys.

i say this for risto, because of bogosian. so by extension there should have been. the d-core last year had a lot of "defence first" guys like kulikov, gorges etc. and they gave most of the tough d responsibility to ristolainen. Seems to me the set up was perfect to shelter bogo to some degree.


Its hard to see that happening now that they've added a couple of good to great skating offensive guys.
- Sabresfan-365

Man, I am so glad Botterill is here

Man, I am so glad Botterill is here
- sbroads24

Same I threw up when I typed that to think it might have been Lombardi

Same I threw up when I typed that to think it might have been Lombardi
- Sabresfan-365

The future looks so bright.

If one of Middlingstats or Mehlander turn out to be really good, we are a Finehart for Hanifin trade away

The future looks so bright.

If one of Middlingstats or Mehlander turn out to be really good, we are a Finehart for Hanifin trade away
- sbroads24

I think we're going to be okay this year.

I believe Bogo will turn in a better season than most have come to expect from him.
My belief stems from the last few games of the season when the team virtually gave Disco Sucks the middle finger and began playing the game they all wanted to.
Bogo had several games where he carried the puck nicely out of danger versus the GD blind pass to a spot.
- IonSabres

Don't you know that Bogo has never played well, Bylsma had a great system...it was the players that all suck, Reinhart will never be good, Adding three NHL ready defensemen means nothing, all our prospects are busts, and Housley hates puppies so he will never be the answer here? Come on, get with the program like the cool kids. As long as Risto and ROR get 28 minutes per game and backchecking is optional we will be fine!
Oh, and anal-lytics are awesome!

the brain damage is real here..
- Sabresfan-365

Not nearly as much as that broadcast crew ESPN has working this Denver game... I was looking forward to watching this game, I'm watching X-men now.

Not nearly as much as that broadcast crew ESPN has working this Denver game... I was looking forward to watching this game, I'm watching X-men now.

- gordong

Holy hell.

Sergio Dipp is amazing

Holy hell.

Sergio Dipp is amazing
- sbroads24

He must've won a contest or something. What was that.

I just turned the game on and thought to myself. "that sounds a hell of a lot like Rex Ryan." Then the lady said "blah, blah, blah, Rex...".

Jeez, he's pretty bad at this.

the brain damage is real here..
- Sabresfan-365

wouldn't want to have any optimism going into the season, bogo is no karlsson but why is it so bad to hope he get put some offensive numbers up under a coach who plays an up-tempo style?

I actually thought he looked pretty good when he came over the year of the trade, then fell off a cliff (even more) when disco became coach.

Not saying he turns into a 50 point defenseman, but I don't think its unrealistic to expect an uptick in production with a system more suited to his playing style.

wouldn't want to have any optimism going into the season, bogo is no karlsson but why is it so bad to hope he get put some offensive numbers up under a coach who plays an up-tempo style?

I actually thought he looked pretty good when he came over the year of the trade, then fell off a cliff (even more) when disco became coach.

Not saying he turns into a 50 point defenseman, but I don't think its unrealistic to expect an uptick in production with a system more suited to his playing style.
- Sabres1523

How dare you!!!






I think we should expect an uptick. Bogo can absolutely be a serviceable defenseman. The issue most of the time is just that he can't stay healthy. And then when gets back into a game after missing time looks like he's lost and looks that way for longer than is really beneficial to him or the team. If he didn't get hurt so frequently, it wouldn't be so bad.