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MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 9 @ 3:00 PM ET
But does OJ have a mean streak in him?

I read an article somewhere that was talking about why there are so many good Dmen coming out of Sweden.

Talked about how in Canada hockey is a rich man's sport cause to do all the extra training and camps and summer hockey you gotta have a lot of cash.

In Sweden a lot of these guys are farm boys and are tough. As hockey is a lot cheaper their development is not stunted by lack of cash.

Food for thought.

- DuranDuran

On the note of Swedish development of players, they also typically move through the ranks all with the same team (barring a move or loans) so familiarity and consistency with coaches and whatnot helps further bolster their development.

In addition, they've recently been going to their Finnish neighbours to get a feel for their goaltending development and what helped them have a pretty strong collection of goalies in the past decade. Meanwhile, Finland has been mingling in the Swedish system to help improve their development of defensemen. Hockey associations in both countries are taking hints from one another and guys like Heiskanen, Juolevi, Vaakanainen, Sandstrom, Gustavsson (not Jonas) and Soderstrom have likely benefited from this form of exchange.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 9 @ 3:03 PM ET
I thought you packed it in?
- VanHockeyGuy

No I said that I was taking some much needed time off, then I had to post again to ask several here to stand down, that I just needed time away from the group.

At which time I provided 3 names to EO to step in while I was away and to assist once I returned. I took about 5-6 weeks away, and things are better....more or less.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 9 @ 3:05 PM ET
Top 5 pick?
- VanHockeyGuy

Oh its possible. Could see him slip like Liljegren because he isnt the best defensively.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 9 @ 3:07 PM ET
No I said that I was taking some much needed time off, then I had to post again to ask several here to stand down, that I just needed time away from the group.

At which time I provided 3 names to EO to step in while I was away and to assist once I returned. I took about 5-6 weeks away, and things are better....more or less.

- Makita

European football has also started into its second week of fixtures.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 9 @ 3:07 PM ET
No I said that I was taking some much needed time off, then I had to post again to ask several here to stand down, that I just needed time away from the group.

At which time I provided 3 names to EO to step in while I was away and to assist once I returned. I took about 5-6 weeks away, and things are better....more or less.

- Makita



That's good, hopefully things get better this season.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 9 @ 3:08 PM ET
Oh its possible. Could see him slip like Liljegren because he isnt the best defensively.
- manvanfan


Perfect!

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 9 @ 3:13 PM ET
Perfect!


- VanHockeyGuy

Other options could be Adam Boqvist and Bode Wilde. Both Rightys.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 9 @ 3:14 PM ET
Other options could be Adam Boqvist and Bode Wilde. Both Rightys.
- manvanfan


Top 5 BPA
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 9 @ 3:18 PM ET
Other options could be Adam Boqvist and Bode Wilde. Both Rightys.
- manvanfan

Boqvist is (frank)ing brilliant Get him and you won't regret it!
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Sep 9 @ 3:21 PM ET
So youre saying Canada has better forwards because rich parents leads to more goal scoring.
- manvanfan


Nope. That tough SOB defenseman are often farm boys.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 9 @ 3:22 PM ET
Nope. That tough SOB defenseman are often farm boys.
- DuranDuran

So defence from Sask then.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 9 @ 3:27 PM ET
Top 5 BPA
- VanHockeyGuy

Yup. Should get a pretty good player all the eay through the first round.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Sep 9 @ 3:42 PM ET
But does OJ have a mean streak in him?

I read an article somewhere that was talking about why there are so many good Dmen coming out of Sweden.

Talked about how in Canada hockey is a rich man's sport cause to do all the extra training and camps and summer hockey you gotta have a lot of cash.

In Sweden a lot of these guys are farm boys and are tough. As hockey is a lot cheaper their development is not stunted by lack of cash.

Food for thought.

- DuranDuran


No
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 9 @ 3:49 PM ET
Just got back from SOEC. Pretty uptempo practice compared to the Flames in the rink next door.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 9 @ 3:52 PM ET
I've see the comparison to Salo before Vantel, it's hard to ignore that Olli doesn't have that slap shot but I definitely could see him fill a similar role. Would be very satisfied if that happens
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Sep 9 @ 4:03 PM ET
I've always kind of kept an eye on Demko considering he was considered the best goalie of his draft and the Flames picked Mason MacDonald ahead of him in a head scratching maneuver. Still a little early to tell but you may have drafted the better goalie as MacDonald is seemingly pretty average...
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Sep 9 @ 4:05 PM ET
I've always kind of kept an eye on Demko considering he was considered the best goalie of his draft and the Flames picked Mason MacDonald ahead of him in a head scratching maneuver. Still a little early to tell but you may have drafted the better goalie as MacDonald is seemingly pretty average...
- Flamin_Irishmin



Parson's is good though.

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 9 @ 4:35 PM ET
But does OJ have a mean streak in him?

I read an article somewhere that was talking about why there are so many good Dmen coming out of Sweden.

Talked about how in Canada hockey is a rich man's sport cause to do all the extra training and camps and summer hockey you gotta have a lot of cash.

In Sweden a lot of these guys are farm boys and are tough. As hockey is a lot cheaper their development is not stunted by lack of cash.

Food for thought.

- DuranDuran


OJ is a Finn
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Sep 9 @ 4:48 PM ET
I just saw a post from Micah555, that means there are 3 mods for you bunch of blankity blank blanks in Carols thread
- Makita

Is that supposed to help stem the vitriol on the Canucks thread?! Because I don't think it will help...
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Sep 9 @ 4:50 PM ET
Parson's is good though.
- classic321

Yes. Very happy about Parsons! He may even surpass Gillies as our goaltender of the future. Good problem to have tho!
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Sep 9 @ 4:55 PM ET
OJ is a Finn
- Nighthawk

We have one too in Valimaki. He's going to be a stud. Look forward to them going head to head in the near future when we play you guys!
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Sep 9 @ 5:11 PM ET
We have one too in Valimaki. He's going to be a stud. Look forward to them going head to head in the near future when we play you guys!
- Flamin_Irishmin

Valimaki seems to be pretty awesome
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Sep 9 @ 5:16 PM ET
Valimaki seems to be pretty awesome
- ClarksonDavid

He's better than OJ already..
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Sep 9 @ 5:26 PM ET
He's better than OJ already..
- Flamin_Irishmin



Im not sure about that, but in terms of where they were picked yes Valimaki was a great pick.

Juolevi was chosen too high.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 9 @ 5:35 PM ET
Thanks Carol

Great to hear we have 3 refs, although with the way our friend likes to post it might not be enough.

OJ is going to be just fine .
Hes a smart player, if you don't notice him much then he's doing his job.
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