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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 5 @ 7:04 PM ET
Telling them right off the bat that they weren't good enough last year is a start
- canucks1986

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 5 @ 7:05 PM ET
Telling them right off the bat that they weren't good enough last year is a start
- canucks1986

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 5 @ 7:06 PM ET
Just read on The Province that the Twins still think playoffs are a possibility
- canucks1986


Says they r not quitters to the dismay of tanknation. Nothing more & easy to say but harder done. Beats listening to Pratt et al šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ I'd expect nothing less from a captain & alternate to say.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 5 @ 7:06 PM ET
OK going along with that what will the players still here have learned or gained from sucking? Considering the current vets r traded or retired we are left with what?
Players used to losing & prospects ready to step into that. Wanting abject failure hardly builds for the future & this blog would die from all the tears & female doging & finger pointing. Real healthy crap to look forward to (sarcasm)

Cannot agree with any tanking notion without a fully laid out plan to study.
I'm open minded if in detail but not interested without it.

- Nighthawk

Sucking brings an opportunity to select better players, that's what's gained. Sucking is what landed the franchise's best player ever in Henrik Sedin.

Sucking helped Chicago land Toews and Kane, it helped the Oilers land Draisaitl, McDavid, Hall & others, it helped Quebec land Nolan, Sundin, Lindros, Leschyshyn, Fogarty & Sakic, it helped Pittsburg land Crosby, Malkin, Fluery, Staal.....and so on.

Sucking for a little while is good
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Sep 5 @ 7:09 PM ET
2018 = three years of sucking, not five. Three more to go
- LeftCoaster


Why? Was the 2013-2014 season not sucking?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Sep 5 @ 7:13 PM ET
Sucking brings an opportunity to select better players, that's what's gained. Sucking is what landed the franchise's best player ever in Henrik Sedin.

Sucking helped Chicago land Toews and Kane, it helped the Oilers land Draisaitl, McDavid, Hall & others, it helped Quebec land Nolan, Sundin, Lindros, Leschyshyn, Fogarty & Sakic, it helped Pittsburg land Crosby, Malkin, Fluery, Staal.....and so on.

Sucking for a little while is good

- LeftCoaster


Your historical facts are skewed up against new rules of lotto. Getting one of the 3 lotto picks is a great win. But quality drafting is all you can rely on.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Sep 5 @ 7:14 PM ET
Sucking brings an opportunity to select better players, that's what's gained. Sucking is what landed the franchise's best player ever in Henrik Sedin.

Sucking helped Chicago land Toews and Kane, it helped the Oilers land Draisaitl, McDavid, Hall & others, it helped Quebec land Nolan, Sundin, Lindros, Leschyshyn, Fogarty & Sakic, it helped Pittsburg land Crosby, Malkin, Fluery, Staal.....and so on.

Sucking for a little while is good

- LeftCoaster


These are facts ladies. TANK ON!!!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 5 @ 7:14 PM ET
Sucking brings an opportunity to select better players, that's what's gained. Sucking is what landed the franchise's best player ever in Henrik Sedin.

Sucking helped Chicago land Toews and Kane, it helped the Oilers land Draisaitl, McDavid, Hall & others, it helped Quebec land Nolan, Sundin, Lindros, Leschyshyn, Fogarty & Sakic, it helped Pittsburg land Crosby, Malkin, Fluery, Staal.....and so on.

Sucking for a little while is good

- LeftCoaster



Ok now put away your tanking poms poms for a minute if we don't get lucky.
What is the fallout?

I go along with anything that works but difficult to put faith in Lady Luck.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 5 @ 7:17 PM ET
Why? Was the 2013-2014 season not sucking?
- Nuck4U

Not imo, they had an 83 point season and were competitive up until all the injuries hit in February. Three wins and a shootout loss away from a 90 point season is not sucking, to me anyways.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Sep 5 @ 7:18 PM ET
Just throwing this out there for discussion

Does Green have the stones to bench/scratch the Twins after a couple of poor games?

- canucks1986


If he just cuts back minutes or role that would be a huge change.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 5 @ 7:18 PM ET

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. @JonathanDahlen has been diagnosed with mono and will not attend #YoungStars.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 5 @ 7:19 PM ET
Sucking brings an opportunity to select better players, that's what's gained. Sucking is what landed the franchise's best player ever in Henrik Sedin.

Sucking helped Chicago land Toews and Kane, it helped the Oilers land Draisaitl, McDavid, Hall & others, it helped Quebec land Nolan, Sundin, Lindros, Leschyshyn, Fogarty & Sakic, it helped Pittsburg land Crosby, Malkin, Fluery, Staal.....and so on.

Sucking for a little while is good

- LeftCoaster


I don't really care if we finish last or not, I just hope we are in a good position to get another centre prospect.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Sep 5 @ 7:21 PM ET
Not imo, they had an 83 point season and were competitive up until all the injuries hit in February. Three wins and a shootout loss away from a 90 point season is not sucking, to me anyways.
- LeftCoaster


That sounds like the last two seasons. Just a 6OA instead of a 5OA.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 5 @ 7:21 PM ET
Ok now put away your tanking poms poms for a minute if we don't get lucky.
What is the fallout?

I go along with anything that works but difficult to put faith in Lady Luck.

- Nighthawk

Lucky as in a first overall pick? You still get to select really good young players, right, Juolevi and Pettersson are still awesome prospects without winning the lotto.

Toews wasn't a 1st overall lottery win pick, neither was Malkin or Draisaitl or Kopitar or Doughty or Marner etc...
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 5 @ 7:23 PM ET
I don't really care if we finish last or not, I just hope we are in a good position to get another centre prospect.
- Reubenkincade

Or one of those Swedish defenseman.
canucks1986
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Sep 5 @ 7:25 PM ET
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. @JonathanDahlen has been diagnosed with mono and will not attend #YoungStars.

- VANTEL

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 5 @ 7:25 PM ET
These are facts ladies. TANK ON!!!
- SRam19


Luck + Opportunity + Generational player available = FACTS?

Holy crap where do I sign up...
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 5 @ 7:28 PM ET
Luck + Opportunity + Generational player available = FACTS?

Holy crap where do I sign up...

- Nighthawk

You don't need a generational player to win a Cup, neither Chicago nor LA have one and they won five Cups in the past eight years.

Toews and Kane are not generational talents but they have the same number of Cups as Crosby and Malkin who are....and one more than Mario Lemieux I might add!
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Sep 5 @ 7:28 PM ET
Hot seat is a media induced hype machine.
What choice other than picks & patience do we have? NONE

- Nighthawk


Not talking about the policy but the capability of JB to implement it.

If he doesn't show results what confidence can he give that he can make it happen? That's just the cold reality of business and his contract status.

No media involvement needed to spin this. Ergo maybe why he's making these moves to showcase a rookie as new core plan working out.
Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Sep 5 @ 7:29 PM ET
I don't really care if we finish last or not, I just hope we are in a good position to get another centre prospect.
- Reubenkincade

Yup.
Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Sep 5 @ 7:30 PM ET
That sounds like the last two seasons. Just a 6OA instead of a 5OA.
- Nuck4U

Picking fights again.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 5 @ 7:31 PM ET
Luck + Opportunity + Generational player available = FACTS?

Holy crap where do I sign up...

- Nighthawk

That lotto pick only applies in round one . If you finish dead last and draft 32 that is like second first round pick. Lind was projected a first round selection and we got him with the 33 rd
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 5 @ 7:31 PM ET
I don't really care if we finish last or not, I just hope we are in a good position to get another centre prospect.
- Reubenkincade

The Canucks will be bottom 5, most likely bottom 3, in my opinion.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 5 @ 7:31 PM ET
Picking fights again.
- Danny Bomber

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Sep 5 @ 7:36 PM ET
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. @JonathanDahlen has been diagnosed with mono and will not attend #YoungStars.

- VANTEL


Guess his camp is fracked now too. Probably going back to Sweden as he won't be able to impress enough for call up spot on Comets.
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