It was just lots of nipple play
- YuenglingJagr

SLOANE STEPHENS!!!
VENUS WILLIAMS!!!

I was talking 3 years from now, Kingery is maybe an August/definitely September callup candidate for next season IMO

I'm with you on Kingery at 3rd, that's why I was thinking they keep Galvis. Galvis at short, trade Cesar replace him with Kingery, and put JP at 3rd. He has the arm to play 3rd
- Giroux_Is_God

I still think Freddy gets traded this winter. It seems to be lining up.

I'm not sure JP's hitting would play at 3rd. At SS he could be a very good hitter along with elite defense, but he'd probably be average-below average at 3B. That's why we sign Manny Machado.

I still think Freddy gets traded this winter. It seems to be lining up.

I'm not sure JP's hitting would play at 3rd. At SS he could be a very good hitter along with elite defense, but he'd probably be average-below average at 3B. That's why we sign Manny Machado.
- Mononoke

But what about Trout? Where's Odubel gonna play??

I can't believe anyone would presume to be certain that a Mason/Stolarz combo would be better in 17-18 than Elliott/Neuvirth.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...yed,gte,100&sort=savePctg

Or that the development of the waiver-exempt, 23 year old Stolarz is best served by being an NHL backup instead of an AHL starter.
- Feanor

Stolarz\some guy from the street would be a better tandem then the 2 stiffs the Flyers will be rolling out this year.

If you thought last year was bad, wait until this cluster bomb plays out.

I still think Freddy gets traded this winter. It seems to be lining up.

I'm not sure JP's hitting would play at 3rd. At SS he could be a very good hitter along with elite defense, but he'd probably be average-below average at 3B. That's why we sign Manny Machado.
- Mononoke

I apologize if I'm missing something, but why do you need certain field positions to hit certain ways/certain spots in the order? Why does it matter if a guy is hitting .300 with 30 HR and 90 RBI is playing catcher, short shot, or center field?

Stolarz\some guy form the street would be a better tandem then the 2 stiffs the Flyers will be rolling out this year.

If you thought last year was bad, wait until this cluster bomb plays out.

-The Athletic Hot Take

- ggunky

[quote=jmatchett383]


I am gonna start asking to be paid for my comments.

I apologize if I'm missing something, but why do you need certain field positions to hit certain ways/certain spots in the order? Why does it matter if a guy is hitting .300 with 30 HR and 90 RBI is playing catcher, short shot, or center field?
- jmatchett383

Generally the body to put up that power doesn't translate to great defense at short

[quote=ggunky]

I will pay you 1000 space bucks per comment.

I still think Freddy gets traded this winter. It seems to be lining up.

I'm not sure JP's hitting would play at 3rd. At SS he could be a very good hitter along with elite defense, but he'd probably be average-below average at 3B. That's why we sign Manny Machado.
- Mononoke

I don't think Freddy is going anywhere, except maybe to the bench. I think this is Blanco's last go-round with the Phillies, and there is definitely a need for an infielder like Galvis who you can just plug in at 2nd, 3rd, or short on a utility basis and not have to worry about your defense suffering.

I apologize if I'm missing something, but why do you need certain field positions to hit certain ways/certain spots in the order? Why does it matter if a guy is hitting .300 with 30 HR and 90 RBI is playing catcher, short shot, or center field?
- jmatchett383

Because of the requirements to defensively play that position and the acceptable league average numbers at that position. Tommy Joseph would be an average catcher with his numbers. Not a lot of good hitting catchers. But he's one of the worst 1B in the league.

You're not going to find many shortstops who can hit. Hitting at that position is a premium. 3B not so much. The median OPS for a 3rd baseman this year is .860. The median for a SS is .725. Corey Seager is the best hitting SS in baseball, but he'd be the 8th best 3B. After him it jumps off a cliff though. If you can hit at a position that not many players can, your value is much much higher.

Hextall - No Stinking classless Penquins crap here!!!:


http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ts-playoff-berth-2017-18/

Generally the body to put up that power doesn't translate to great defense at short
- YuenglingJagr

But why would it matter if they can do it? I can understand determining field position based on body type, but you guys seem to the basing field position based on numbers without considering body type, only numbers, while those players have already been putting up those numbers at that position.

I get what you're saying, but if the guy can put up the numbers and play his position, then why do you need to change him other than to fit the mold?

Hextall - No Stinking classless Penquins crap here!!!:


http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ts-playoff-berth-2017-18/
- ggunky

What I want to know is what sort of minutes restriction Nolan Patrick will be on.

What I want to know is what sort of minutes restriction Nolan Patrick will be on.
- jmatchett383

To me it felt like Hextall was taking a shot at Pitt and Edm.

Because of the requirements to defensively play that position and the acceptable league average numbers at that position. Tommy Joseph would be an average catcher with his numbers. Not a lot of good hitting catchers. But he's one of the worst 1B in the league.

You're not going to find many shortstops who can hit. Hitting at that position is a premium. 3B not so much. The median OPS for a 3rd baseman this year is .860. The median for a SS is .725. Corey Seager is the best hitting SS in baseball, but he'd be the 8th best 3B. After him it jumps off a cliff though. If you can hit at a position that not many players can, your value is much much higher.
- Mononoke

I wish

I get what you're saying, but if the guy can put up the numbers and play his position, then why do you need to change him other than to fit the mold?
- jmatchett383

You wouldn't, at least not until he can no longer play the position. If you're an athletic freak who can mash from the middle infield that means you can play other good hitters at the easier positions where hitting is easier to find. Your team would be better overall. It's just rare.

I wish
- YuenglingJagr

I wasn't thinking. It was among qualified hitters. Should be Correa ofc, then Cozart if you lower the PA requirement. The median number -- and my point -- is basically the same though.

Because of the requirements to defensively play that position and the acceptable league average numbers at that position. Tommy Joseph would be an average catcher with his numbers. Not a lot of good hitting catchers. But he's one of the worst 1B in the league.

You're not going to find many shortstops who can hit. Hitting at that position is a premium. 3B not so much. The median OPS for a 3rd baseman this year is .860. The median for a SS is .725. Corey Seager is the best hitting SS in baseball, but he'd be the 8th best 3B. After him it jumps off a cliff though. If you can hit at a position that not many players can, your value is much much higher.
- Mononoke

Right. But if I'm following correctly, you're basing the field positions based on purely the numbers. I just don't see why that matters if they can put up those numbers and play effectively at their position. If the guy can put up good traditional 3B numbers but is a good shortstop, why not let him play shortstop instead of trying to force him into being a 3B? Would you say that Jimmy Rollins, during his MVP year, was playing the wrong position, a position in which he won a Gold Glove that season?

I can't believe anyone would presume to be certain that a Mason/Stolarz combo would be better in 17-18 than Elliott/Neuvirth.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...yed,gte,100&sort=savePctg

Or that the development of the waiver-exempt, 23 year old Stolarz is best served by being an NHL backup instead of an AHL starter.
- Feanor

Guess we'll never know until Stolarz gets his first full time NHL job at age 30. Looking forward to that. Not to mention we have Hart and Lyon too. Let the line up build up for all those bridge gap players.

But why would it matter if they can do it? I can understand determining field position based on body type, but you guys seem to the basing field position based on numbers without considering body type, only numbers, while those players have already been putting up those numbers at that position.

I get what you're saying, but if the guy can put up the numbers and play his position, then why do you need to change him other than to fit the mold?
- jmatchett383

I think you're either over thinking it or not thinking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-U0OIer5C4

That would have been ideal but they couldn't get Mason under contract for either the years or price they could agree on so they kinda had to sign Neuvirth or expose Stolarz. Once they were stuck with Neuvirth they had to sign an experienced tandem guy... enter Elliott.

I'm not thrilled but who knows what happens once the season starts.
- mayorofangrytown

I heard Hextall never offered Mason anything.