Chapoo will not make this team Boeser will
- VANTEL

so swap out 2 bottom line players, and we are in rebuild mode? and you'll go to games? I'm just trying to understand what you're so salty about

I might be optimistic but this team isn't horrible on paper. If they have chemistry things could go well. I like to win. Players are in to win.

Sure we could suck but we could also not suck.
- thundachunk

I'm onboard with wins as well

I might be optimistic but this team isn't horrible on paper. If they have chemistry things could go well. I like to win. Players are in to win.

Sure we could suck but we could also not suck.
- thundachunk

Im on the same page as you, this season could go either way, like 2015. But id rather miss playoffs and get one of Dahlin/Merkley/Boqvist

Im on the same page as you, this season could go either way, like 2015. But id rather miss playoffs and get one of Dahlin/Merkley/Boqvist
- phyllee

WE definitely aren't making the playoffs, our Division got a lot better this summer

so swap out 2 bottom line players, and we are in rebuild mode? and you'll go to games? I'm just trying to understand what you're so salty about
- Crazybagoham

Not salty at all. Just pointing out your roster was dumb with little thought put to it. You are actually the one with the panties in a twist.

Not salty at all. Just pointing out your roster was dumb with little thought put to it. You are actually the one with the panties in a twist.
- VANTEL

your roster is exactly the same, with Boeser added..... I would learn to read a post before you try to nitpick , cause the same 9 players are on every persons forward roster. But sure, its dumb.

I would like Gaunce to succeed also . He has a good defensive game .He is the exact opposite of Goldobin.
- VANTEL

Just because a guy gets stuck in his own zone all the time, doesn't mean he has defensive skills. Gaunce is awful.

Just because a guy gets stuck in his own zone all the time, doesn't mean he has defensive skills. Gaunce is awful.
- Crazybagoham

We could always put in superstar Chapoop

We could always put in superstar Chapoop
- VANTEL

I like Shapoopy, stop making fun of him

Just because a guy gets stuck in his own zone all the time, doesn't mean he has defensive skills. Gaunce is awful.
- Crazybagoham

False, after a quick check he was the highest on the team with possession for. His offence game sucks but cannot take away from his defence

At this rate should we be active buyers at TDL
- VANTEL

playoffs dude…playoffs….

playoffs dude…playoffs….
- LordHumungous

I know playoffs are a pipe dream but I like to win. It should be your goal every year.

I know playoffs are a pipe dream but I like to win. It should be your goal every year.
- thundachunk

...or at least try to win.

...or at least try to win.
- Marwood

One game at a time. Win.

I know playoffs are a pipe dream but I like to win. It should be your goal every year.
- thundachunk

Agree winning is the goal but I do understand why GM's manipulate rosters for draft picks however.

Even with the additions of MDZ, Gagner, Vanek, we really have only effectively replaced the points lost with Burrows and Hansen gone. Now I would expect Gagner and Vanek to outscore Burrows and Hansen X2 if they were still here so 'if' Gagner and Vanek have good years we could could bump up a few spots…but realistically we shouldn't get anywhere near a sniff of the wild card with this current roster and potential injuries.

Agree winning is the goal but I do understand why GM's manipulate rosters for draft picks however.

Even with the additions of MDZ, Gagner, Vanek, we really have only effectively replaced the points lost with Burrows and Hansen gone. Now I would expect Gagner and Vanek to outscore Burrows and Hansen X2 if they were still here so 'if' Gagner and Vanek have good years we could could bump up a few spots…but realistically we shouldn't get anywhere near a sniff of the wild card with this current roster and potential injuries.
- LordHumungous

With all that though. Looking at less injuries to Guds, dorsett and healthier Sutter and Granlund. More points from Sven and Bo. Less points from Henrik and Daniel. Replacing Megna with Boeser is a big time.

I might be optimistic but this team isn't horrible on paper. If they have chemistry things could go well. I like to win. Players are in to win.

Sure we could suck but we could also not suck.
- thundachunk

With all that though. Looking at less injuries to Guds, dorsett and healthier Sutter and Granlund. More points from Sven and Bo. Less points from Henrik and Daniel. Replacing Megna with Boeser is a big time.
- manvanfan

I think we will be much better.
Even in carols blog that guy said TG would really help us, which Ive said all along.

I know playoffs are a pipe dream but I like to win. It should be your goal every year.
- thundachunk

You're goal should, IMHO, be to win the Stanley Cup. That requires some long term thinking. I like winning too, but it's short-sighted to just try and win or be competitive without really having a chance to win a Cup. It creates a mess and mediocrity because you're not bad enough to draft those great players in the 1/2/3 spots or good enough to win it all, which is really the point of it all.

Tampa generally drafts well in down years at the top, Stamkos and Hedman, and they also draft well even when they're competitive....something I'd like to see from the next GM when Benning is fired

I think we will be much better.
Even in carols blog that guy said TG would really help us, which Ive said all along.
- SMBDragon

Will he though? Im not sure hes any better then WD. He hasnt proven anything. WD was great in hia first season, terrible after that. Only real difference I see now. All the youth is older. They replaced hansen, sbisa, burrows with Gagner, Vanek and MDZ. A bit more quality depth. Before finishing 2-12, would have probably finished around the 75 point mark. I totally expect them to be somewhere this year also.

You're goal should, IMHO, be to win the Stanley Cup. That requires some long term thinking. I like winning too, but it's short-sighted to just try and win or be competitive without really having a chance to win a Cup. It creates a mess and mediocrity because you're not bad enough to draft those great players in the 1/2/3 spots or good enough to win it all, which is really the point of it all.

Tampa generally drafts well in down years at the top, Stamkos and Hedman, and they also draft well even when they're competitive....something I'd like to see from the next GM when Benning is fired
- LeftCoaster

it wasn't so long ago that people were saying that hedman was a bust.

Will he though? Im not sure hes any better then WD. He hasnt proven anything. WD was great in hia first season, terrible after that. Only real difference I see now. All the youth is older. They replaced hansen, sbisa, burrows with Gagner, Vanek and MDZ. A bit more quality depth. Before finishing 2-12, would have probably finished around the 75 point mark. I totally expect them to be somewhere this year also.
- manvanfan

he talks using all the right buzz words.

he talks using all the right buzz words.
- RealityChecker

He sure does.

Torts told everyone what they needed to hear. He got fired.

WD used all the same phrases, he got fired.

Does this mean we'll win the lottery?
- storm88

If you finish last, yes.

Gotta finish last though

Alternatively, you could pick 2nd and select the best player in the draft like Winnipeg did.

Can we just drop the damn puck and find something else to talk about geez the canucks will be fine, jb has done a nice job stocking the cupboards, the depth is much better when injuries happen.