MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: 94Nevermore, NJ Joined: 07.01.2010
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nope you should feel bad, we all should feel bad about your D - DDM-Coga
do you comment on every team's blog or just Colorado and NJ? |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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do you comment on every team's blog or just Colorado and NJ? - MartysBetter88
The (frank)er is everywhere.
I like him. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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do you comment on every team's blog or just Colorado and NJ? - MartysBetter88
This is a hot stove so shut the (frank) up |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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(frank)ing Coga, bashing on the only team he can. - Scabeh
Tough but fair |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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do you comment on every team's blog or just Colorado and NJ? - MartysBetter88
im a fan of hot takes and hot stoves. I go where the people need me |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Simply because Shea Weber is that (frank)ing good, Habs still have a better defense than the Leafs today. Petry and Alzner are good players despite what you're implying.
As for the future, you're entitled to believe in Dermott, Liljegren and other young guys but so are the Habs who have interesting prospects on defense like Victor Mete and Juulsen. - Scabeh
amazing how 4 months ago Emelin and Beaulieu were terrible and now OMG HOW IS MONTREAL GOING TO REPLACE THIS ERA'S NEIDERMAYER/PRONGER!?!?!?!?!?!? |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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amazing how 4 months ago Emelin and Beaulieu were terrible and now OMG HOW IS MONTREAL GOING TO REPLACE THIS ERA'S NEIDERMAYER/PRONGER!?!?!?!?!?!? - DoubleDown
Remember, Weber sucks since last year and Alzner, despite being top 4 on the best defense in the league last season, is garbage and overpaid. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Remember, Weber sucks since last year and Alzner, despite being top 4 on the best defense in the league last season, is garbage and overpaid. - Scabeh
I mean Alzner is bad but MTLs D is fine. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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I mean Alzner is bad but MTLs D is fine. - Feds91Stammer
He's an upgrade over Emelin. No doubt in my mind. |
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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He's an upgrade over Emelin. No doubt in my mind. - Scabeh
He is. I just... You guys have some incredibly poor depth players. It's unreal.
Also he's only an upgrade in the sense that a dumpster fire is more controlled than a tire fire. |
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He's an upgrade over Emelin. No doubt in my mind. - Scabeh
Not a very high bar you've set there
Ignoring Weber and Petry (your good Dmen), the sheer number of solid 4-6 guys in Alzner, Benn, Davidson, Schlemko and Streit sets them well ahead of the bottom tier. Most of those guys would fight for top pairing time in New Jersey, Detroit or Vegas as they are now. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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He's an upgrade over Emelin. No doubt in my mind. - Scabeh
Yes a very marginal upgrade. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Yes a very marginal upgrade. - Feds91Stammer
I disagree. He's more mobile, smarter with the puck and more reliable.... that's a significant upgrade.
I'm mostly skeptical because it's the exact same people (not you necessarely) that are claiming Alzner is terrible and the Caps did a good thing getting rid of him that were also saying Weber had slowed down and was barely a #1D anymore.
Weber was amazing for the Habs last season.... so.... I got trust issues.
I guess time will tell. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Not a very high bar you've set there
Ignoring Weber and Petry (your good Dmen), the sheer number of solid 4-6 guys in Alzner, Benn, Davidson, Schlemko and Streit sets them well ahead of the bottom tier. Most of those guys would fight for top pairing time in New Jersey, Detroit or Vegas as they are now. - MaximumBone
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hanleyaj
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 01.20.2014
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If this was last year I would have to say Buffalo but with the addition of Scandella, Beaulieu and Antipin. I would have to say they belong in the top half on NHL. With the Potential of being top ten because Bogo is oldest dman at 27. With very good depth with Gorges, Guhle and Falk.
That being said i would pick Devils or Vegas |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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I disagree. He's more mobile, smarter with the puck and more reliable.... that's a significant upgrade.
I'm mostly skeptical because it's the exact same people (not you necessarely) that are claiming Alzner is terrible and the Caps did a good thing getting rid of him that were also saying Weber had slowed down and was barely a #1D anymore.
Weber was amazing for the Habs last season.... so.... I got trust issues.
I guess time will tell. - Scabeh
Alzner is bad man. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Alzner is bad man. - Feds91Stammer
See previous post. |
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If this was last year I would have to say Buffalo but with the addition of Scandella, Beaulieu and Antipin. I would have to say they belong in the top half on NHL. With the Potential of being top ten because Bogo is oldest dman at 27. With very good depth with Gorges, Guhle and Falk.
That being said i would pick Devils or Vegas - hanleyaj
Top half of the NHL? A top-4 of Risto, Scandella, McCabe/Beaulieu and Bogosian might not even break you out of the bottom-10. It's not as horrendous as last year, but you'd need serious improvement from McCabe or Beaulieu and a bounce back from Bogosian along with the assumption that Risto will improve notably with more support and a coach with a more suitable system. Possible, but too many ifs to count on as of now.
Without making a full ranking, I figure they're likely around 21st to 23rd. |
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Remember, Weber sucks since last year and Alzner, despite being top 4 on the best defense in the league last season, is garbage and overpaid. - Scabeh
No one ever said Weber sucks. The trade to acquire him was terrible, but Weber is still a quality d-man. What I'm saying is that, outside of Weber, the d is awful
And it's not like I'm alone in my opinion on Alzner. It's generally accepted that he's overpaid and not very good. I was SO worried the Leafs were gonna sign him
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Top half of the NHL? A top-4 of Risto, Scandella, McCabe/Beaulieu and Bogosian might not even break you out of the bottom-10. It's not as horrendous as last year, but you'd need serious improvement from McCabe or Beaulieu and a bounce back from Bogosian along with the assumption that Risto will improve notably with more support and a coach with a more suitable system. Possible, but too many ifs to count on as of now.
Without making a full ranking, I figure they're likely around 21st to 23rd. - MaximumBone
Agreed. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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No one ever said Weber sucks. The trade to acquire him was terrible, but Weber is still a quality d-man. What I'm saying is that, outside of Weber, the d is awful
And it's not like I'm alone in my opinion on Alzner. It's generally accepted that he's overpaid and not very good. I was SO worried the Leafs were gonna sign him - AxlRose91
I disagree completely.
Team has alot of depth as far as NHL defensemen go. You underestimate Petry and Alzner considerably and there is a possibility of seeing Jerabek become our Zaitsev.
A bottom pairing of Benn, Schlemko/Streit is just fine as well.
Keep worrying about the Leafs D my friend, it is way more worrysome than the Habs. |
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mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 02.01.2012
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I don't get to watch them enough, but what about the Oilers? Klefbom is the only guy I hear anything good about. |
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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF Joined: 03.03.2016
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The Laffs because reasons. |
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rawwdogg88
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: NJ Joined: 06.18.2013
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We should just bring back fayne and volchenkov. boom! All our defensive problems are solved! |
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We should just bring back fayne and volchenkov. boom! All our defensive problems are solved! - rawwdogg88
Remarkably Fayne is only 30 and Volchy is 35.
Volchy but when Lou Lams says you're too slow, your too slow.
I'd take Fayne back with a crazy sweetener from the Oilers.
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