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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 29 @ 3:15 PM ET
See, even though Recchi is one of my favorites, I don't identify him as a Flyer either. Some of you might disagree but a Flyer to me is big and tough. You bring a certain truculence to your game. If you don't have this, you're a skilled pesky player like Giroux and Briere. I don't see Recchi as any of these things, even though I I've the guy. I know Desjardins and Gagne were neither but it's hard to explain.
- SuperSchennBros


Recchi played big, kinda of like a super skilled DiMaio/Upshall. While he wasn't a brute, neither was Mark Howe.
SuperSchennBros
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Aug 29 @ 3:16 PM ET
I'm fine with Recchi's number not being retired here but I'm gonna give the credit to Mark Recchi none of you want to give. Mark Recchi might be the most balanced player I've ever seen play. I've seen him play both wings for extended periods of time as a Flyer. I've seen him play center. I've seen him take many faceoffs. He was an all situation guy (PP, PK). He was responsible with and without the puck. He was a leader where he went. He could play the point on the PP. I didn't know whether or not to call him a sniper or playmaker because he had the perfect balance of both. He didn't fight much but he could fight and play a gritty game as he got older.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 29 @ 3:20 PM ET
this is not angry enough.
- hammarby31

I don't wanna crush down on peoples happy memories today.

It's "give blood Tuesday" in angrytown.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 29 @ 3:21 PM ET
I'm gonna wear my 25 jersey to the yotes game
- corduroy

I'll bring you a Pronger hoodie
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 29 @ 3:22 PM ET
I'm fine with Recchi's number not being retired here but I'm gonna give the credit to Mark Recchi none of you want to give. Mark Recchi might be the most balanced player I've ever seen play. I've seen him play both wings for extended periods of time as a Flyer. I've seen him play center. I've seen him take many faceoffs. He was an all situation guy (PP, PK). He was responsible with and without the puck. He was a leader where he went. He could play the point on the PP. I didn't know whether or not to call him a sniper or playmaker because he had the perfect balance of both. He didn't fight much but he could fight and play a gritty game as he got older.
- SuperSchennBros

Most balanced player ever?

Moreso than Federov, Forsberg, Yzerman, Messier, etc...

All of the above were more complete players than Recchi
SuperSchennBros
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Aug 29 @ 3:24 PM ET
Fedorov had a very hostile exit from Detroit. What he and Detroit went through would make it seem like Lindros and Clarkie were drinking buddies back in 2000. For what he did on the ice, he absolutely deserves to have his number retired. Time has not yet healed all of those wounds, though.
- jmatchett383

Yes and No. Fedorov has shown up to some (not all) Red Wings events. Out door games. I can't remember if he skipped Lidstrom's number being retired or the Joe closing or Hawe's funeral.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 29 @ 3:24 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Chart...this-season%2F224%2F87116

this dude on twitter made VDV the 2nd line center on his all UFA team
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 29 @ 3:24 PM ET
MoHAT

I like it

- Giroux_Is_God


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 29 @ 3:25 PM ET
I'm fine with Recchi's number not being retired here but I'm gonna give the credit to Mark Recchi none of you want to give. Mark Recchi might be the most balanced player I've ever seen play. I've seen him play both wings for extended periods of time as a Flyer. I've seen him play center. I've seen him take many faceoffs. He was an all situation guy (PP, PK). He was responsible with and without the puck. He was a leader where he went. He could play the point on the PP. I didn't know whether or not to call him a sniper or playmaker because he had the perfect balance of both. He didn't fight much but he could fight and play a gritty game as he got older.
- SuperSchennBros


I'd take Fedorov and Datsyuk over him every day.

Recchi may have played both wings, but Fedorov played as a defenseman, and he did it an an All-Star caliber. Easily the most complete player I've ever seen.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 29 @ 3:25 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Chart...this-season%2F224%2F87116

this dude on twitter made VDV the 2nd line center on his all UFA team

- YuenglingJagr

Is the dude's name Hakstol?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 29 @ 3:26 PM ET
I'd take Fedorov and Datsyuk over him every day.

Recchi may have played both wings, but Fedorov played as a defenseman, and he did it an an All-Star caliber. Easily the most complete player I've ever seen.

- jmatchett383

Agreed

Edit: also Recchi was an average defensive player while Federov was one of the best
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 29 @ 3:26 PM ET
Recchi never lost me. That brawl broke out because the game before Martin Havlet took a cheap shot to Recchi because Havlet didn't know how to keep his stick down. That was the root of the whole brawl.
- SuperSchennBros


i know the root of the brawl. i was just referring to his ridiculous behavior during said brawl. it was a joke. never mind.
SuperSchennBros
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Aug 29 @ 3:26 PM ET
Most balanced player ever?

Moreso than Federov, Forsberg, Yzerman, Messier, etc...

All of the above were more complete players than Recchi

- BiggE


Most balanced player....I've ever seen...

Yzerman adjusted and changed his game. Forsberg wasn't exactly known for his two way game because he was too busy taking over games.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 29 @ 3:28 PM ET
Most balanced player....I've ever seen...

Yzerman adjusted and changed his game. Forsberg wasn't exactly known for his two way game because he was too busy taking over games.

- SuperSchennBros

And Federov?

Edit: Recchi was no better defensively than Forsberg, nor as strong on the puck and he lacked Foppa's ability to take over games.

Recchi isn't even on the same plane as a guy like Federov
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 29 @ 3:28 PM ET
Elliott should just wear 1 as he's done with other teams. As for Lehtera, should probably just take 16.
- hockeylover


i was just looking through a Top 10 Hockey categories book i bought for my son two years ago and noticed the inside cover spread is a photo of Elliot being scored on by Patrick Kane in a shootout. i laughed out loud, and thought "of course".
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 29 @ 3:29 PM ET
Yes and No. Fedorov has shown up to some (not all) Red Wings events. Out door games. I can't remember if he skipped Lidstrom's number being retired or the Joe closing or Hawe's funeral.
- SuperSchennBros


I think the fans have forgiven him (they gave him a standing ovation at the Alumni game), but I don't think management has yet.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 29 @ 3:30 PM ET
i was just looking through a Top 10 Hockey categories book i bought for my son two years ago and noticed the inside cover spread is a photo of Elliot being scored on by Patrick Kane in a shootout. i laughed out loud, and thought "of course".
- hammarby31

This is perfect
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Aug 29 @ 3:32 PM ET
Mark Recchi might be the most balanced player I've ever seen play. I've seen him play both wings for extended periods of time as a Flyer. I've seen him play center. I've seen him take many faceoffs.
- SuperSchennBros


Brayden Schenn gave him a run for his money though
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 29 @ 3:32 PM ET
Brayden Schenn gave him a run for his money though
- Mononoke

Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Aug 29 @ 3:33 PM ET
this dude on twitter made VDV the 2nd line center on his all UFA team
- YuenglingJagr


I would've had him centering Jagr.

Some lucky team still could.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 29 @ 3:38 PM ET
Brayden Schenn gave him a run for his money though
- Mononoke


oof
SuperSchennBros
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Aug 29 @ 3:38 PM ET
I'd take Fedorov and Datsyuk over him every day.

Recchi may have played both wings, but Fedorov played as a defenseman, and he did it an an All-Star caliber. Easily the most complete player I've ever seen.

- jmatchett383


Would you call Fedorov or Datsyuk leaders?
SuperSchennBros
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Aug 29 @ 3:41 PM ET
And Federov?

Edit: Recchi was no better defensively than Forsberg, nor as strong on the puck and he lacked Foppa's ability to take over games.

Recchi isn't even on the same plane as a guy like Federov

- BiggE

That I've seen...

What do you want me to say? I'm a Flyers fan...

What answer are you looking for from me?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
That I've seen...

What do you want me to say? I'm a Flyers fan...

What answer are you looking for from me?

- SuperSchennBros

Hey think whatever you want, I just happen to disagree.
SuperSchennBros
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Aug 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
Brayden Schenn gave him a run for his money though
- Mononoke


Do you really wanna get into the Ghost and Gudas would be a top first pair in the NHL debate again? Like, what is this?
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