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Aug 26 @ 2:35 PM ET
Right...? There were some deep weird references in that post. - Konalover
The Dry Island, as I recall, was a commitment from each player to not drink at all during the season, or playoffs. I think there was a white board in the locker room where all the participating players names were written and both Carter and Richards refused to participate. They were know partiers and didnt want to commit to it.
The Dry Island, as I recall, was a commitment from each player to not drink at all during the season, or playoffs. I think there was a white board in the locker room where all the participating players names were written and both Carter and Richards refused to participate. They were know partiers and didnt want to commit to it. - WhirlingDervish
Well now I see why Brad didn't mention it in the carter write up.
The Dry Island, as I recall, was a commitment from each player to not drink at all during the season, or playoffs. I think there was a white board in the locker room where all the participating players names were written and both Carter and Richards refused to participate. They were know partiers and didnt want to commit to it. - WhirlingDervish
Thank you for this, I had no idea.
The point was the delusional post said Pronger's Dry Island.
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Aug 26 @ 3:05 PM ET
There's no way a STH doesn't know Bill's name is not Brad. They don't just let anyone become a STH. The obviously purposeful mistakes, the weird all caps.....it has to mean something. But what, flyersfaninLA, what are you trying to tell us? It must be a secret message.......
There's no way a STH doesn't know Bill's name is not Brad. They don't just let anyone become a STH. The obviously purposeful mistakes, the weird all caps.....it has to mean something. But what, flyersfaninLA, what are you trying to tell us? It must be a secret message.......
Looks like my Saturday suddenly just got busy. - Mononoke
I am sorry. It was early and I was thinking about Brad McCrimmon...
I mean Bill.
Sorry buddy. My bad. - flyersfaninLA
Thanks for the boring summer fun at expense of your am fatigue.
flyersfaninLA Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA Joined: 03.05.2010
Aug 26 @ 4:02 PM ET
Guys,
My mistake with Bill's name. I was thinking about Brad McCrimmon and mis-typed. It was early and my first Diet Coke wasn't working yet.
Dry Island was real. From what I've been told from GOOD sources (on the golf course and in that locker room at the time) was that Richards and Carter didn't ever sign up. Considering who the GM was at the time - that's not a smart move. Ed didn't like it either but the last straw was the hat issue at the event. Homer was told - drop the axe and he sure did. I will never forget talking to Kevin Greensteen from InsideHockey.com that day and he says mere minutes after the first trade "how the HELL did Brayden Schenn get on the Flyers?" Good question, at the time.
The real issue and this comes from someone who was born in Philly and lived in Voorhees in my early years is the Post-Forsberg move of college age players to start living in Center City instead of the South Jersey burbs. Remember, these players are YOUNG and don't often go to college. They want to party with college girls as they are millionaires en route to being very wealthy. Supposedly, Carter and Richards were the inspiration for Dry Island but never signed up. They would supposedly show up hung over for practice and the older players weren't too impressed. That Flyers team was a Cup contender.
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
Aug 26 @ 4:08 PM ET
Guys,
My mistake with Bill's name. I was thinking about Brad McCrimmon and mis-typed. It was early and my first Diet Coke wasn't working yet.
Dry Island was real. From what I've been told from GOOD sources (on the golf course and in that locker room at the time) was that Richards and Carter didn't ever sign up. Considering who the GM was at the time - that's not a smart move. Ed didn't like it either but the last straw was the hat issue at the event. Homer was told - drop the axe and he sure did. I will never forget talking to Kevin Greensteen from InsideHockey.com that day and he says mere minutes after the first trade "how the HELL did Brayden Schenn get on the Flyers?" Good question, at the time.
The real issue and this comes from someone who was born in Philly and lived in Voorhees in my early years is the Post-Forsberg move of college age players to start living in Center City instead of the South Jersey burbs. Remember, these players are YOUNG and don't often go to college. They want to party with college girls as they are millionaires en route to being very wealthy. Supposedly, Carter and Richards were the inspiration for Dry Island but never signed up. They would supposedly show up hung over for practice and the older players weren't too impressed. That Flyers team was a Cup contender. - flyersfaninLA
I think they were just messing with you because it was Laviolette's dry Island resort....lol
My mistake with Bill's name. I was thinking about Brad McCrimmon and mis-typed. It was early and my first Diet Coke wasn't working yet.
Dry Island was real. From what I've been told from GOOD sources (on the golf course and in that locker room at the time) was that Richards and Carter didn't ever sign up. Considering who the GM was at the time - that's not a smart move. Ed didn't like it either but the last straw was the hat issue at the event. Homer was told - drop the axe and he sure did. I will never forget talking to Kevin Greensteen from InsideHockey.com that day and he says mere minutes after the first trade "how the HELL did Brayden Schenn get on the Flyers?" Good question, at the time.
The real issue and this comes from someone who was born in Philly and lived in Voorhees in my early years is the Post-Forsberg move of college age players to start living in Center City instead of the South Jersey burbs. Remember, these players are YOUNG and don't often go to college. They want to party with college girls as they are millionaires en route to being very wealthy. Supposedly, Carter and Richards were the inspiration for Dry Island but never signed up. They would supposedly show up hung over for practice and the older players weren't too impressed. That Flyers team was a Cup contender. - flyersfaninLA
So wait.....when did Carter sleep with Hartnell's wife?
Almost exactly ten years to the day after Lindros slept with Brind'Amour's wife. - MBFlyerfan
Yeah, and Mathieu Schneider with Patrick Roy's wife (or Roy with Schneider's depending on the version) or any of the other dozens of urban legend "local rumors" around most every team for decades, often with the tough-guy teammate x punched out the offending teammate addendum to the tale. Very few of the stories have a shred of validity but it doesn't stop the stories from being retold.
As for Dry Island, it was legit but not why Carter and Richards were traded. There were some concerns about off-ice behavior (as referenced briefly in the blog) but there were other and bigger factors.
My mistake with Bill's name. I was thinking about Brad McCrimmon and mis-typed. It was early and my first Diet Coke wasn't working yet.
Dry Island was real. From what I've been told from GOOD sources (on the golf course and in that locker room at the time) was that Richards and Carter didn't ever sign up. Considering who the GM was at the time - that's not a smart move. Ed didn't like it either but the last straw was the hat issue at the event. Homer was told - drop the axe and he sure did. I will never forget talking to Kevin Greensteen from InsideHockey.com that day and he says mere minutes after the first trade "how the HELL did Brayden Schenn get on the Flyers?" Good question, at the time.
The real issue and this comes from someone who was born in Philly and lived in Voorhees in my early years is the Post-Forsberg move of college age players to start living in Center City instead of the South Jersey burbs. Remember, these players are YOUNG and don't often go to college. They want to party with college girls as they are millionaires en route to being very wealthy. Supposedly, Carter and Richards were the inspiration for Dry Island but never signed up. They would supposedly show up hung over for practice and the older players weren't too impressed. That Flyers team was a Cup contender. - flyersfaninLA
Still lots of misinformation floating around I still see. Not sure why this needs to be rehashed. Dry Island was a really bad idea and mistake made by Laviolette. Richards and Carter were not the only ones who weren't interested in it and I don't blame them. You say the last straw was the hat yet Richards asked for and received permission from the team to wear the hat. I don't think you have many facts.
flyersfaninLA Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA Joined: 03.05.2010
The problem may have been that there was a Stonehenge monument on stage at risk of being crushed by a druid.
No hockey - I revert to Spinal Tap.
flyersfaninLA Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA Joined: 03.05.2010
Aug 26 @ 5:08 PM ET
Yeah, and Mathieu Schneider with Patrick Roy's wife (or Roy with Schneider's depending on the version) or any of the other dozens of urban legend "local rumors" around most every team for decades, often with the tough-guy teammate x punched out the offending teammate addendum to the tale. Very few of the stories have a shred of validity but it doesn't stop the stories from being retold.
As for Dry Island, it was legit but not why Carter and Richards were traded. There were some concerns about off-ice behavior (as referenced briefly in the blog) but there were other and bigger factors. - bmeltzer
Bill,
What next? Are you going to tell me that all of the NHL-player told Probert stories aren't true (many have nudity and poop involved oddly)?
I can't live with that. Not with training camp this far away.
Tell Ek - I want a series of Probert stories next month. I NEED entertainment DAMN IT.
What next? Are you going to tell me that all of the NHL-player told Probert stories aren't true (many have nudity and poop involved oddly)?
I can't live with that. Not with training camp this far away.
Tell Ek - I want a series of Probert stories next month. I NEED entertainment DAMN IT. - flyersfaninLA
Well, Probert had a pretty wild life. But, yeah, a lot of these stories tend to get embellished over time. Heard some doozies during Alumni trip in Russia.
Yeah, and Mathieu Schneider with Patrick Roy's wife (or Roy with Schneider's depending on the version) or any of the other dozens of urban legend "local rumors" around most every team for decades, often with the tough-guy teammate x punched out the offending teammate addendum to the tale. Very few of the stories have a shred of validity but it doesn't stop the stories from being retold.
As for Dry Island, it was legit but not why Carter and Richards were traded. There were some concerns about off-ice behavior (as referenced briefly in the blog) but there were other and bigger factors. - bmeltzer
What about Brodeur and his sister in law?
oh wait that one is legit
Also Bill, any chance you can expand on the other bigger factors? Again, I still feel it was the right move, but I always thought it had less to do with hockey than with off-ice behavior. The rumors of Pronger rubbing some of the younger guys the wrong way could be a factor? Especially with a guy like Carter, not far removed from a 46 goal campaign, being swung out of town so quickly after signing an extension seemed so much to do with personalities on the team than with hockey.
