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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 25 @ 12:38 PM ET
Do you English?? 14.2 is "around 15". In no common-sense world or country is it "a big different in shooting percentage". That is 8 goals per 1,000 shots difference, or in terms a derp such as yourself may understand, 2 goals per year for a player that shoots ~3 times per game.

Facts back up that Tarasenko has been an elite NHLer for multiple seasons. Matthews had 1 successful season. Get over yourself and gain some perspective. You are the type of fan that makes your team's fan-base look bad.

- DARKSEID


Holy (frank) man 40 is around 50. 7 is around 10. 9 is around 10. Yeah I get that.
But when you are trying to make an argument don't make up numbers to try and make your argument seem right. Because it makes you pretty stupid.

Matthews showed this year he is an elite player. Wether you like it or not. Mcdavid, Echiel, Matthews, Laine are all in Tarasenko's league. I'd even take all of them before Tarasenko given what they have all done in their first 2 seasons. They have already accomplished what Tarasenko has done in one season.

I get it. You hate the Leafs and you don't want to see them have success. I do it too to other teams.

But get used to the fact that all signs point upwards for Matthews. There is solid evidence for it. Us as Leafs fans can talk good about our team so you can put the cliche line of "you make leafs fans look bad" away too.

But let's hear the "he only has played one season" and the "he won't be able to do it again" lines. It's hilarious
Pet.m.d.
Location: Buckeye, AZ
Joined: 06.29.2017

Aug 25 @ 1:07 PM ET
Barkov will score 53 goals, 0 votes for hart...
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 25 @ 1:11 PM ET
Barkov will score 53 goals, 0 votes for hart...
- Pet.m.d.

Yes the guy with 52 points last season will score 53 goals...
Leichs
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.04.2013

Aug 25 @ 1:13 PM ET
"Matthew shooting percentage was kind of high around 15% I think he will score around 30 he had a lot of dirty goals"
Couldn't agree more. These guys are delusional thinking hes going to score 50 next year. His goals were mostly garbage aside from a couple beauties he scored. Minus the first game of his career and he barely scores 35 goals. Next year will be a lot tougher for him. All these guys trying to compare him to McD and Crosby and Malkin. Dude didn't even hit 70 points and his being compared to these guys. I've seen Eberle score 76 points and look how his career has turned out. Don't get me wrong, he is a helluva player. Id take Matthews in my line up any day of the year, but lets calm down with this 50 goal Art Ross crap that y'all are spewing.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 25 @ 1:17 PM ET
"Matthew shooting percentage was kind of high around 15% I think he will score around 30 he had a lot of dirty goals"
Couldn't agree more. These guys are delusional thinking hes going to score 50 next year. His goals were mostly garbage aside from a couple beauties he scored. Minus the first game of his career and he barely scores 35 goals. Next year will be a lot tougher for him. All these guys trying to compare him to McD and Crosby and Malkin. Dude didn't even hit 70 points and his being compared to these guys. I've seen Eberle score 76 points and look how his career has turned out. Don't get me wrong, he is a helluva player. Id take Matthews in my line up any day of the year, but lets calm down with this 50 goal Art Ross crap that y'all are spewing.

- Leichs

Nobody said Art Ross. Just goals. But thanks.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 25 @ 1:19 PM ET
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 25 @ 1:21 PM ET
Do you English?? 14.2 is "around 15". In no common-sense world or country is it "a big different in shooting percentage". That is 8 goals per 1,000 shots difference, or in terms a derp such as yourself may understand, 2 goals per year for a player that shoots ~3 times per game.

Facts back up that Tarasenko has been an elite NHLer for multiple seasons. Matthews had 1 successful season. Get over yourself and gain some perspective. You are the type of fan that makes your team's base look bad.

- DARKSEID


No you are
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
Joined: 07.31.2017

Aug 25 @ 1:22 PM ET
Holy (frank) man 40 is around 50. 7 is around 10. 9 is around 10. Yeah I get that.
But when you are trying to make an argument don't make up numbers to try and make your argument seem right. Because it makes you pretty stupid.

Matthews showed this year he is an elite player. Wether you like it or not. Mcdavid, Echiel, Matthews, Laine are all in Tarasenko's league. I'd even take all of them before Tarasenko given what they have all done in their first 2 seasons. They have already accomplished what Tarasenko has done in one season.

I get it. You hate the Leafs and you don't want to see them have success. I do it too to other teams.

But get used to the fact that all signs point upwards for Matthews. There is solid evidence for it. Us as Leafs fans can talk good about our team so you can put the cliche line of "you make leafs fans look bad" away too.

But let's hear the "he only has played one season" and the "he won't be able to do it again" lines. It's hilarious

- Santo_44

All wrong.

Firstly, none of those players are in McDavid's "league" (tier).

None of them except Matthews, have scored 40 goals, as Tarasenko has.

I also don't hate the Leafs. Keeping making up excuses.

Your arguments are further away from common sense than 14.2 from 15.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 25 @ 1:23 PM ET
Auston Matthews - Austonoffun Matthews scored the most Even Strength Goals in the league last year with 32. An insane feat for a rookie let alone any player. His 40 goal campaign was the first by a rookie since the guy above him in this list.

Wake me when he has a rookie season like # 13 did in the Peg - 76 for those who lost track - Now that is an Insane year - Not 40 - Helluva player but the hype seems a tad premature -
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 25 @ 1:24 PM ET
"Matthew shooting percentage was kind of high around 15% I think he will score around 30 he had a lot of dirty goals"
Couldn't agree more. These guys are delusional thinking hes going to score 50 next year. His goals were mostly garbage aside from a couple beauties he scored. Minus the first game of his career and he barely scores 35 goals. Next year will be a lot tougher for him. All these guys trying to compare him to McD and Crosby and Malkin. Dude didn't even hit 70 points and his being compared to these guys. I've seen Eberle score 76 points and look how his career has turned out. Don't get me wrong, he is a helluva player. Id take Matthews in my line up any day of the year, but lets calm down with this 50 goal Art Ross crap that y'all are spewing.

- Leichs






garbage goals lol
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 25 @ 1:25 PM ET
You take away Stamkos' hattrick against the Hurricanes and this hack fraud doesn't even hit 60 goals! He sucks!

Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 25 @ 1:26 PM ET
thread bookmarked, keep the lowball AM34 predictions coming fellas
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 25 @ 1:29 PM ET
Auston Matthews - Austonoffun Matthews scored the most Even Strength Goals in the league last year with 32. An insane feat for a rookie let alone any player. His 40 goal campaign was the first by a rookie since the guy above him in this list.

Wake me when he has a rookie season like # 13 did in the Peg - 76 for those who lost track - Now that is an Insane year - Not 40 - Helluva player but the hype seems a tad premature -

- dozerD10

Hey, do you remember what year Ovechkin was as a rookie and then look at all of the rookies in between him and Matthews? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't 2016. Nobody hit 40 other than them in that time span.

Aside from Selanne's obviously unparalleled rookie season the second highest 5vs5 goal scoring rookie since 1990 is Matthews tied with Lindros. Tell me that isn't insane in today's NHL.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 25 @ 1:30 PM ET
Hey, do you remember what year Ovechkin was as a rookie and then look at all of the rookies in between him and Matthews? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't 2016. Nobody hit 40 other than them in that time span.

Aside from Selanne's obviously unparalleled rookie season the second highest 5vs5 goal scoring rookie since 1990 is Matthews tied with Lindros. Tell me that isn't insane in today's NHL.

- AdamFrench


Yeah but LEAFS
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
Joined: 07.31.2017

Aug 25 @ 1:31 PM ET
thread bookmarked, keep the lowball AM34 predictions coming fellas
- Zezel



30-40 goals is not a "lowball" prediction. It's fair.

Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 25 @ 1:35 PM ET


30-40 goals is not a "lowball" prediction. It's fair.


- DARKSEID


Sure
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Aug 25 @ 1:38 PM ET
Hey, do you remember what year Ovechkin was as a rookie and then look at all of the rookies in between him and Matthews? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't 2016. Nobody hit 40 other than them in that time span.

Aside from Selanne's obviously unparalleled rookie season the second highest 5vs5 goal scoring rookie since 1990 is Matthews tied with Lindros. Tell me that isn't insane in today's NHL.

- AdamFrench

Ovechkin was also a year older in his rookie season due to the lockout.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Aug 25 @ 1:38 PM ET


30-40 goals is not a "lowball" prediction. It's fair.


- DARKSEID

It will be if he hits 50
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
Joined: 07.31.2017

Aug 25 @ 1:39 PM ET
It will be if he hits 50
- HealthyScratch6

Big if. Best rookie goal-scorer in the last 15 years scored 46 the year after scoring 50. You think A.M. will have a better sophomore season than Ovi..?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 25 @ 1:46 PM ET
Big if. Best rookie goal-scorer in the last 15 years scored 46 the year after scoring 50. You think A.M. will have a better sophomore season than Ovi..?
- DARKSEID

No and that's why it's funny.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Aug 25 @ 1:47 PM ET
Rakell could be in the top5 imo. Guessing 40+.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Aug 25 @ 1:48 PM ET
"Matthew shooting percentage was kind of high around 15% I think he will score around 30 he had a lot of dirty goals"
Couldn't agree more. These guys are delusional thinking hes going to score 50 next year. His goals were mostly garbage aside from a couple beauties he scored. Minus the first game of his career and he barely scores 35 goals. Next year will be a lot tougher for him. All these guys trying to compare him to McD and Crosby and Malkin. Dude didn't even hit 70 points and his being compared to these guys. I've seen Eberle score 76 points and look how his career has turned out. Don't get me wrong, he is a helluva player. Id take Matthews in my line up any day of the year, but lets calm down with this 50 goal Art Ross crap that y'all are spewing.

- Leichs

This is all around the dumbest comment I've ever read. Garbage goals are easier to sustain than highlight reel goals because it's easier to bang in a rebound from 3 feet out than it is snipe from 20 feet out. His shooting percentage is relatively high because he lives in the slot banging in garbage goals. They don't have to be pretty they just have to go in. He had the best true rookie season of the lady decade outside of mcdavids shortened season and maybe kanes
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
Joined: 07.31.2017

Aug 25 @ 1:54 PM ET
No and that's why it's funny.
- AdamFrench

I mean, Stamkos scored 51 in his 2nd year, but only scored 23 as a rookie.

As good as Matthews is, he is not a generational talent, as Ovechkin is. Laine scored goals at the same rate. Is he going to score 50 goals? Kinda hypocritical if you ignore that possibility. He has a better chance of doing so, too, being a winger on his "off wing". He also scored 75% of his goals at even-strength, so it's not like his large shooting percentage was from clapping bombs on the PP.
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
Joined: 07.31.2017

Aug 25 @ 1:57 PM ET
This is all around the dumbest comment I've ever read. Garbage goals are easier to sustain than highlight reel goals because it's easier to bang in a rebound from 3 feet out than it is snipe from 20 feet out. His shooting percentage is relatively high because he lives in the slot banging in garbage goals. They don't have to be pretty they just have to go in. He had the best true rookie season of the lady decade outside of mcdavids shortened season and maybe kanes
- HealthyScratch6

This comment is equally as dumb. It's only sustainable as long as Matthews remains willing. There's a reason there aren't many Holmstroms or Hornqvists out there. It's not easy being checked by large defensemen/centers when you're constantly in their goalie's house. And if he is willing, will he remain healthy? Think before you spew homer garbage.
ChonDerry
Location: Bedlamton, AB
Joined: 04.06.2016

Aug 25 @ 1:57 PM ET
Yakupov is gonna snipe 64 this year
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