Agreed. One or 2 of you never compared Bennett to Gilmour.
- Larsson_fan

TSN actually was the one pumping the Gilmour comparisons.

Agreed. One more reason you are officially part of the dark side with HB77, Larssonfan and I.
- Iggysbff

NOt that I put any effort into it, but I have achieved a similar status in the Sabres threads as you have in Leafland. No idea why but these guys just hate me, save 5 or 6 smart ones.

NOt that I put any effort into it, but I have achieved a similar status in the Sabres threads as you have in Leafland. No idea why but these guys just hate me, save 5 or 6 smart ones.
- Larsson_fan

- 21peter

Top 5 coach??? Just what has he ever done to be called that??
- Iggysbff

Our rivalry aside,afte Quenville and Babcock,who are better coaches than McLellan? Certainly not the bonehead coaching the Flames

The regs have all been reasonable...

It wasn't until some of these new bandwagon tards like shyster and 2cents show up it went downhill. And the flames fans certainly didn't help at all by engaging them...
- Iggysbff

New? Bandwagon? I don't like to personally attack people,but you're a special kind of special. Don't call it a comeback,I've been here for years.

New? Bandwagon? I don't like to personally attack people,but you're a special kind of special. Don't call it a comeback,I've been here for years.
- 2centz

Settle down Spazz.

Settle down Spazz.
- Larsson_fan

I'm freakin out man

The Sekera injury scares me the most. If he is out until December there will be trouble. Sekera was the strongest part of the him and Russell pair and I think people will see Russell for what he is without a stronger partner.

Brossoit needs to get some games in early so we know what he is. Talbot should not be playing north of 70 again his season.

Our forwards could be worse, the same or better and an argument can be made for any one. If Puljujarvi can have the type of season Draisaitl was able to in his second year that would be a huge boost.
- freelancer

Drai came in in his sophomore year and had a pretty good season...paired with Hall...with whom he had even better fancies than with McDavid. Who will Pul be paired with that could give him a similar boost? Other than McDavid it's a huge question mark. I doubt very highly he has a similar second year to Drai.

Our rivalry aside,afte Quenville and Babcock,who are better coaches than McLellan? Certainly not the bonehead coaching the Flames
- 2centz

Quennville and Babcock have multiple cups. Todd took the team to second last the same year his former team with a different coach went to the cup final. Todd has done nothing to even break into the top ten let alone top 5.

New? Bandwagon? I don't like to personally attack people,but you're a special kind of special. Don't call it a comeback,I've been here for years.
- 2centz

Pfffttt! You have rarely showed up. Never here battling trolls through the dark years. Hence new and bandwagon.

NOt that I put any effort into it, but I have achieved a similar status in the Sabres threads as you have in Leafland. No idea why but these guys just hate me, save 5 or 6 smart ones.
- Larsson_fan

Yeah the sabres fans are a special bunch...

I still have you beat though cuz I have that status in the leafs AND Nucks threads...

Drai came in in his sophomore year and had a pretty good season...paired with Hall...with whom he had even better fancies than with McDavid. Who will Pul be paired with that could give him a similar boost? Other than McDavid it's a huge question mark. I doubt very highly he has a similar second year to Drai.
- Iggysbff

It would McDavid. Maybe Draisaitl. Maybe comparing sophomore years to Draisaitl isn't fair. If Puljujarvi can produce 40 points on a third line and maybe get the Letestu spot on the 2nd power play that would be a successful season and provide some secondary scoring.

Pretty much any line with McDavid is better than the Flames best trio, in fact if Draisaitl centers a line it would probably be better as well, as he is clearly the better player over both Mony and Gudreau.
- Larsson_fan

Yes, McDavid is the best player but a line needs 3 forwards. I can easily say the Monahan and Gaudreau are far far better players than fn' Macaroon and Puvyjavi (whatever his name is LOL). So yeah McDavid is the best centre in the league, but if he gets injured and replaced by Draitsatl, the flames clearly have the better first line. Dratisaitl finally has one good year and you assume his better than Monahan and Gaudreau?

I just don't see Dratsaitl reproducing his numbers this year. In my opinion its much more probable that Gaudreau and Monahan reproduce their numbers this year.

Quennville and Babcock have multiple cups. Todd took the team to second last the same year his former team with a different coach went to the cup final. Todd has done nothing to even break into the top ten let alone top 5.
- Iggysbff

I said other than Quenville and Babcock for starters. But you failed to offer any suggestions as to who is better,out of the remaining 28 coaches.

Pfffttt! You have rarely showed up. Never here battling trolls through the dark years. Hence new and bandwagon.
- Iggysbff

Do your homework before you spout out of your a$$.

Yes, McDavid is the best player but a line needs 3 forwards. I can easily say the Monahan and Gaudreau are far far better players than fn' Macaroon and Puvyjavi (whatever his name is LOL). So yeah McDavid is the best centre in the league, but if he gets injured and replaced by Draitsatl, the flames clearly have the better first line. Dratisaitl finally has one good year and you assume his better than Monahan and Gaudreau?

I just don't see Dratsaitl reproducing his numbers this year. In my opinion its much more probable that Gaudreau and Monahan reproduce their numbers this year.
- PtotheY

Draisaitl already has more playoff points than Monahan,without playing with McDavid. But you guys need hope for something,I guess... A lot of ifs and what ifs coming from Flames fans this year.

Yes, McDavid is the best player but a line needs 3 forwards. I can easily say the Monahan and Gaudreau are far far better players than fn' Macaroon and Puvyjavi (whatever his name is LOL). So yeah McDavid is the best centre in the league, but if he gets injured and replaced by Draitsatl, the flames clearly have the better first line. Dratisaitl finally has one good year and you assume his better than Monahan and Gaudreau?

I just don't see Dratsaitl reproducing his numbers this year. In my opinion its much more probable that Gaudreau and Monahan reproduce their numbers this year.
- PtotheY

WHo gives a (frank) what you see or dont see??

Draisaitl already has more playoff points than Monahan,without playing with McDavid. But you guys need hope for something,I guess... A lot of ifs and what ifs coming from Flames fans this year.
- 2centz

Lol. He played one game without McDavid. And still played pp with him. Unreal how little you know...for someone spewing about doing homework...

Lol. He played one game without McDavid. And still played pp with him. Unreal how little you know.
- Iggysbff

And in that one game,put up more points against the Ducks,than Monahan did in four. You turn to personal attacks,because you don't have the capacity for a discussion. You offer no points,and just talk tough on a half a$$ hockey site. I hope you cleaned your room,so mommy let's you on here again tomorrow.

And in that one game,put up more points against the Ducks,than Monahan did in four. You turn to personal attacks,because you don't have the capacity for a discussion. You offer no points,and just talk tough on a half a$$ hockey site. I hope you cleaned your room,so mommy let's you on here again tomorrow.
- 2centz

So youre basing your whole argument on one game? Cool.

Based on that; Austin Matthews scored 4 goals in his debut game, So I guess based on that he's better than McDavid.

You make straw man arguments then female dog when they get blown up. You keep getting schooled here...maybe just let the grown ups talk hockey. You'll probably disappear again once school starts anyways.

So youre basing your whole argument on one game? Cool.

Based on that; Austin Matthews scored 4 goals in his debut game, So I guess based on that he's better than McDavid.

You make straw man arguments then female dog when they get blown up. You keep getting schooled here...maybe just let the grown ups talk hockey. You'll probably disappear again once school starts anyways.
- Iggysbff

That's not what I said at all,little dude. And the only people getting schooled,is the Flames. You can't beat the Ducks and you can't beat the Oilers,so how are you ever going to win a Stanley Cup?

This started as Monahan vs Draisaitl. Draisaitl is younger,scored more goals this year,had more points,already has more career playoff points,and was a force with and without McDavid. You still haven't told me why Monahan is better? Either way,we're comparing your best centre,to our 2nd best centre. How many points do you think Monahan would have on McDavids wing? The best part of all of this is,the more everyone talks poop about the Oilers,and how we got McDavid,the more McDavid loves being an Oiler. It's beautiful.

That's not what I said at all,little dude. And the only people getting schooled,is the Flames. You can't beat the Ducks and you can't beat the Oilers,so how are you ever going to win a Stanley Cup?

This started as Monahan vs Draisaitl. Draisaitl is younger,scored more goals this year,had more points,already has more career playoff points,and was a force with and without McDavid. You still haven't told me why Monahan is better? Either way,we're comparing your best centre,to our 2nd best centre. How many points do you think Monahan would have on McDavids wing? The best part of all of this is,the more everyone talks poop about the Oilers,and how we got McDavid,the more McDavid loves being an Oiler. It's beautiful.
- 2centz

You made up that last sentence. NOwhere has McDavid ever said anything that lines up with your claim. Unless you provide a link. If not, stop lying and embarrassing the rest of us.

That's not what I said at all,little dude. And the only people getting schooled,is the Flames. You can't beat the Ducks and you can't beat the Oilers,so how are you ever going to win a Stanley Cup?

This started as Monahan vs Draisaitl. Draisaitl is younger,scored more goals this year,had more points,already has more career playoff points,and was a force with and without McDavid. You still haven't told me why Monahan is better? Either way,we're comparing your best centre,to our 2nd best centre. How many points do you think Monahan would have on McDavids wing? The best part of all of this is,the more everyone talks poop about the Oilers,and how we got McDavid,the more McDavid loves being an Oiler. It's beautiful.
- 2centz

2014-15 Monahan: 81 games, 62 pts, 31 goals. 11 Playoff Games, 6 Pts, 3 goals. 2014-15 Drasaitl: 37 games, 9 pts, 2 goals - sent back to Junior-not good enough yet for the NHL.

2015-16 Monahan: 81 games, 63 pts, 27 goals. 2015-16 Drasaitl: 72 games, 51 pts, 19 goals.

2016-17 Monahan: 82 games, 58 pts, 27 goals (played first 10 games without Gaudreau - played 1st qtr of season with back injury/pain). 4 Playoff Games, 5 pts, 4 goals. 2016-17 Drasaitl: 82 games, 77 pts, 29 goals. 13 Playoff Games, 16 pts, 6 goals.

In Bakersfield (AHL) 2015-16 Drasaitl was less than avg - 6 games, 2 pts. Same year at World Championships: 8 games, 4 pts.

Drasaitl Salary: $8,500,000.00
Monahan Salary: $6, 375,000.00
Difference: $2,125,000.00

Monahan pluses: His whole game is Very consistent. Very good at face-offs. Clutch goal scorer. Arguably plays the toughest minutes as center on the team (Backlund also plays tough center minutes). 183 pts in 3 seasons, 85 goals in 3 seasons.

Drasaitl pluses: Upwards trajectory - monster season in 2016-17 - 2 goals more than Monahan, 19 pts more than Monahan. However - does not play # 1 centre minutes - he does not get the top D opposition as Monahan does in every game.

Those are the facts! Any hockey person looking at this objectively (take out the Flames & Oilers bias) could not choose Drasaitl over Monahan, at least not yet. In a year's time this needs to be looked at again - it will be interesting to see how they do comparatively in the 2017-18 season.

Since they have been in the league together, the truth is Drasaitl has had 1 great season, Monahan has had 3 very, very good seasons. Drasaitl has not yet shown the consistency to be placed ahead of Monahan.

Russel is like Horcoff at the end...don't hate him, just hate his contract. If it was 2 years at 4 mil, or 4 years at 3 mil, it would be a better situation.
- Beergu

Why do people get so concerned about the end though? If we don't have him now, we are going to be worse off now. Is it better to be worse now, but have no contract that "might" hurt us in 3 years?

Rather be the better team now and worry about poop after. Kinda like what most good teams do.