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MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 23 @ 1:15 PM ET
Ummm....what Oilers fan has forgotten the decade of Darkness? Quit making poop up to fit your retarded narrative. Be a better troll or give up.
- Larsson_fan

Seems to be of the same breed of folks who came to "educate us" on how bad our team was during that aforementioned decade. Might be a worth his time to stop and think "(h)ey! Maybe what I'm saying is completely redundant and these guys know all this as they didn't only witness it from the side, but lived it for 10 years".

Is it so unheard of that fans would be so excited to actually have rivalries after a decade of doormat-itude that they'd be a little bit too high on their team after a pretty successful season? Remember their fanbase's reaction after their first playoff appearance during the Gaudreau era? A lot of those female doging about Oilers fans being stoked are the same conceited (frank)ers proclaiming their readiness for Cup contention back then.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 23 @ 1:22 PM ET
Pretty much any line with McDavid is better than the Flames best trio, in fact if Draisaitl centers a line it would probably be better as well, as he is clearly the better player over both Mony and Gudreau.
- Larsson_fan

For now I'll disagree that he's unequivocally better than Gaudreau. If Leon can prove his ability to drive a line and still produce around 60-70 points, then I'll concede that he's clearly superior but Gaudreau drives his line already (albeit as a winger). I'd peg Monahan as more of a 45-50 point C without him.

But I get that this may just be trolling the Flames ass-peasants so I'll leave it at that
Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 23 @ 1:24 PM ET
Chiasson isn't a flame anymore, otherwise not bad. Obviously I'm biased to the Flames, and would say the D is a sweep for them.

Is that your preferred fwd line up, or is that what you feel is most likely? My preferred lineup for the Flames is

Johnny/Monahan/Ferland
Jankowski/Backlund/Frolik
Tkachuk/Bennett/Versteeg
Lazar/Stajan/Brouwer

With this lineup flames middle 6 gets the advantage when compared to the current lines in your blog. Jankowski is unproven yet, but backs and Frolik made Bouma and Colborne 15-20 goal scorers, so he should do pretty good next to them to start. Tkachuk and versteeg should compliment Bennett well, and help bring out the best in him. All in all, I think both teams are very evenly matched.

- dr_soiledpants


Took the Flames lineup courtesy of Daily Faceoff. Apologies for Chiasson. I wouldn't call them my preferred lineups. Guys like Jankowski and Foo could make the team, just as Puljujarvi could be sent down. Draisaitl could centre his own line and Nuge could be the third line centre. I do believe the Oilers have better forward depth, just as I also believe the Flames have a vastly superior D overall.

I agree both teams are pretty evenly matched, this is going to be a close season
Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 23 @ 1:27 PM ET
I commend you for not making this more of a troll blog.

You definitely have more firepower but we have the better defense. You have big expectations for your 4th line but don't give our 3rd line the same possibilities to break out. In the end the Flames will go as far as Mike Smith can take them and that is the big question mark.

Happy that this blog is even being written. Means the BOA is back.

Hoping that you guys are as bitter as an Edmonton winter after the season is done.

- DuranDuran

Some Oiler fans wish the Flames would never make the playoffs. I don't get that. I would much rather see both teams at their best... it'll make the Oiler wins that much more sweet

As far as the third line goes I think Bennett and Puljujarvi are in similar positions and in order for the third line on either team to have real success both players need to take advantage of the softer minutes.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Aug 23 @ 1:30 PM ET
Seems to be of the same breed of folks who came to "educate us" on how bad our team was during that aforementioned decade. Might be a worth his time to stop and think "(h)ey! Maybe what I'm saying is completely redundant and these guys know all this as they didn't only witness it from the side, but lived it for 10 years".

Is it so unheard of that fans would be so excited to actually have rivalries after a decade of doormat-itude that they'd be a little bit too high on their team after a pretty successful season? Remember their fanbase's reaction after their first playoff appearance during the Gaudreau era? A lot of those female doging about Oilers fans being stoked are the same conceited (frank)ers proclaiming their readiness for Cup contention back then.

- MaximumBone

Didnt they poop themselves the following season? So much for steady progression.

This is the same fan base that largely discredits all Senators fans opinions of Lazar, like its not possible he just sucks at this level, he was just in a bad situation ( that did pretty well after they jettisoned Lazar and went on a nice playoff run).
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Aug 23 @ 1:30 PM ET
For now I'll disagree that he's unequivocally better than Gaudreau. If Leon can prove his ability to drive a line and still produce around 60-70 points, then I'll concede that he's clearly superior but Gaudreau drives his line already (albeit as a winger). I'd peg Monahan as more of a 45-50 point C without him.

But I get that this may just be trolling the Flames ass-peasants so I'll leave it at that

- MaximumBone

Who? Moi?
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Aug 23 @ 1:34 PM ET
Took the Flames lineup courtesy of Daily Faceoff. Apologies for Chiasson. I wouldn't call them my preferred lineups. Guys like Jankowski and Foo could make the team, just as Puljujarvi could be sent down. Draisaitl could centre his own line and Nuge could be the third line centre. I do believe the Oilers have better forward depth, just as I also believe the Flames have a vastly superior D overall.

I agree both teams are pretty evenly matched, this is going to be a close season

- freelancer

The difference is, according to Flames fans, that Jesse P , after not being ready for top 6 NHL winger at 18 is a clear bust, and that handful of NHL games he struggled in ruined him forever.
The same does not apply for Jankowski, because at 22 or whatever, he was brought along slowly and developed properly, and its pretty much impossible for him not to be an impact player.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 23 @ 1:35 PM ET
I commend you for not making this more of a troll blog.

You definitely have more firepower but we have the better defense. You have big expectations for your 4th line but don't give our 3rd line the same possibilities to break out. In the end the Flames will go as far as Mike Smith can take them and that is the big question mark.

Happy that this blog is even being written. Means the BOA is back.

Hoping that you guys are as bitter as an Edmonton winter after the season is done.

- DuranDuran

Glad there's some skepticism around that. While he's certainly joining a more complete roster with better depth across the board, it remains to be seen if the system Gulutzan employs will mesh well with Smith's brand of play.

The Coyotes under Tippett were an active "layers of support" type of team employing a stifling system, coaching a strong commitment to positional play/clogging up lanes and built their puck retrieval around Smith with few other options on their backend otherwise. More than that, he saw his success behind the same coach for 4(?) years. This same coach and system also made Bryzgalov look like a consistent Vezina candidate.

He's now going to a team that saw countless defensive breakdowns and misplays (in fairness, this is likely at least partly due to shaky confidence in their goalies) and who has 3 or 4 great puckmoving options on the backend. The team won't be catered to him in the same way.
Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
The difference is, according to Flames fans, that Jesse P , after not being ready for top 6 NHL winger at 18 is a clear bust, and that handful of NHL games he struggled in ruined him forever.
The same does not apply for Jankowski, because at 22 or whatever, he was brought along slowly and developed properly, and its pretty much impossible for him not to be an impact player.

- Larsson_fan

I have all the time in the world for Flames fans who want to talk hockey and debate the good and bad things about both teams. The types of fans who say stuff like that... are less endearing.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Aug 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
Some Oiler fans wish the Flames would never make the playoffs. I don't get that. I would much rather see both teams at their best... it'll make the Oiler wins that much more sweet

As far as the third line goes I think Bennett and Puljujarvi are in similar positions and in order for the third line on either team to have real success both players need to take advantage of the softer minutes.

- freelancer

Flames are moving to Seattle soon, these are last chances for a BOA before we move on to *_______(?) as our exclusive blood rival.

* This would make a good Blog topic.
When Hnat Dominichelli , Marc Savard and MSL were doing nothing for the Flames we found a new rival in Dallas, we'll find a new one most likely again. I vote Winnepeg, tho to keep it in division, maybe Vancouver?
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Aug 23 @ 1:42 PM ET
I have all the time in the world for Flames fans who want to talk hockey and debate the good and bad things about both teams. The types of fans who say stuff like that... are less endearing.
- freelancer



I like those guys, they just think far too highly of their players,especially their prospects. They can go on and on and on about Gillies, Janitor or Kylington but i just harken back to these same dildos saying Sam Bennett was the next Doug Gilmour, and I got flayed for suggesting Darcy Tucker was a closer comparison. Its obvious now I was right, but even then maybe Tucker is too ambitious a comp.

...and dont get me started on how awesome Poirier (sp) was suppossed to be.
Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 23 @ 1:49 PM ET
Flames are moving to Seattle soon, these are last chances for a BOA before we move on to *_______(?) as our exclusive blood rival.

* This would make a good Blog topic.
When Hnat Dominichelli , Marc Savard and MSL were doing nothing for the Flames we found a new rival in Dallas, we'll find a new one most likely again. I vote Winnepeg, tho to keep it in division, maybe Vancouver?

- Larsson_fan

After last playoff series I would argue Anaheim could be an option.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 23 @ 1:51 PM ET
Flames are moving to Seattle soon, these are last chances for a BOA before we move on to *_______(?) as our exclusive blood rival.

* This would make a good Blog topic.
When Hnat Dominichelli , Marc Savard and MSL were doing nothing for the Flames we found a new rival in Dallas, we'll find a new one most likely again. I vote Winnepeg, tho to keep it in division, maybe Vancouver?

- Larsson_fan

Winnipeg would be quite the rivalry. They're a Canadian team with a pretty young elite group of forwards, a physical style to match our own and a solid D corps that- like our own- is neither elite nor awful.


At forward:

McDavid, Draisaitl, Lucic, Puljujarvi, RNH and Strome
VS
Scheifele, Ehlers, Wheeler, Laine, Little and Connor


On defense:

Klefbom, Larsson, Sekera and Benning/Nurse
VS
Trouba, Byfuglien, Morrissey and Kulikov/Myers


Sign me up once they go back to their classic jerseys for good
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 23 @ 1:57 PM ET
After last playoff series I would argue Anaheim could be an option.
- freelancer

Nah. I believe two things are needed for a real rivalry: 1.) teams that peak at a similar time (Anaheim's stars are on the wrong side of 28) and 2.) mutual respect that works with the hatred to fuel a healthy competition. So long as their team employs wimpy ass bandits like Kesler and Perry, no such respect will exist. This isn't to say that guys like Lucic, Maroon and Kassian don't deserve some blame for the lack of respect between fanbases. They certainly do. However, most fans will agree that guys like Perry and Kesler inspire much greater amounts of animosity and hatred due to their unwillingness to answer for their garbage.

Not to mention that whiny, fat female dog of a coach What a chode!
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Aug 23 @ 1:57 PM ET
Winnipeg would be quite the rivalry. They're a Canadian team with a pretty young elite group of forwards, a physical style to match our own and a solid D corps that- like our own- is neither elite nor awful.


At forward:

McDavid, Draisaitl, Lucic, Puljujarvi, RNH and Strome
VS
Scheifele, Ehlers, Wheeler, Laine, Little and Connor


On defense:

Klefbom, Larsson, Sekera and Benning/Nurse
VS
Trouba, Byfuglien, Morrissey and Kulikov/Myers


Sign me up once they go back to their classic jerseys for good

- MaximumBone

Yeah those Air Canada Jerseys are steaming piles of Brian Burke.
Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 23 @ 1:59 PM ET
As a side note, just wanted to thank all of you for putting up with me these past couple weeks. It's been fun for me and hopefully I wrote some stuff that you guys enjoyed.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 23 @ 2:00 PM ET
Yeah those Air Canada Jerseys are steaming piles of Brian Burke.
- Larsson_fan

If I find out that the Arizona Coyotes are somehow holding onto the trademark for that and that's the reason the Jets made different jerseys, then I'm gonna be pissed. Those ones from the Heritage classic would be flawless regular jerseys!
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Aug 23 @ 2:01 PM ET
As a side note, just wanted to thank all of you for putting up with me these past couple weeks. It's been fun for me and hopefully I wrote some stuff that you guys enjoyed.
- freelancer



Not at all, youre actually ( gulp) pretty good. Before that goes to your head, put into the context of being compared to that Lazy, angry bullpoopter Hendo and his fake sources, and that Fat,KFC eating delusional handicap Cloutier.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Aug 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
Glad there's some skepticism around that. While he's certainly joining a more complete roster with better depth across the board, it remains to be seen if the system Gulutzan employs will mesh well with Smith's brand of play.

The Coyotes under Tippett were an active "layers of support" type of team employing a stifling system, coaching a strong commitment to positional play/clogging up lanes and built their puck retrieval around Smith with few other options on their backend otherwise. More than that, he saw his success behind the same coach for 4(?) years. This same coach and system also made Bryzgalov look like a consistent Vezina candidate.

He's now going to a team that saw countless defensive breakdowns and misplays (in fairness, this is likely at least partly due to shaky confidence in their goalies) and who has 3 or 4 great puckmoving options on the backend. The team won't be catered to him in the same way.

- MaximumBone


I think the Flames back end will be better this year. The breakdowns were less and less as the year went on and Stone coming in was a huge improvement over Wideman and Engelland as the 4th D.

Our 3rd pairing was a tire fire last year and hopefully Kulak and Stone can fix that as well.

As far as Smith goes I see it either working out really well....or working out really bad. I am interested to see how GG can incorporate Smith's puck handling skills into the equation.
hags11
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Aug 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
I have just 6 points to make:

1) Oilers are a decent team with a superstar. And they suck!

2) Flames are a decent team with no superstars. And they DON'T suck!

3) Oilers will NOT sweep the Flames this year - that will be the difference over last year - just putting the Flames above the Oilers in the final standings. Oh - and the Oilers suck!Did I say that already?

4) Oilers suck!

5) Oilers suck!

6) Oilers suck!

That's it boys -end of discussion - I know you all will pick apart my extremely well thought out comments, but go ahead - I will do you all a favor and not post anything else on this blog, regardless of how you Oiler trolls try to get me to.

7) Oiler trolls/fans suck even more than the Oilers!

MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 23 @ 2:17 PM ET
Not at all, youre actually ( gulp) pretty good. Before that goes to your head, put into the context of being compared to that Lazy, angry bullpoopter Hendo and his fake sources, and that Fat,KFC eating delusional handicap Cloutier.
- Larsson_fan

I mean, "good" is always relative to current alternatives As sad as those alternatives might be, he's at least a slight improvement.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 23 @ 2:18 PM ET
Winnipeg would be quite the rivalry. They're a Canadian team with a pretty young elite group of forwards, a physical style to match our own and a solid D corps that- like our own- is neither elite nor awful.


At forward:

McDavid, Draisaitl, Lucic, Puljujarvi, RNH and Strome
VS
Scheifele, Ehlers, Wheeler, Laine, Little and Connor


On defense:

Klefbom, Larsson, Sekera and Benning/Nurse
VS
Trouba, Byfuglien, Morrissey and Kulikov/Myers


Sign me up once they go back to their classic jerseys for good

- MaximumBone


I wouldn't mind seeing a Flyer-Edmonton rival develop in the coming years.

McDavid, Draisaitl, Lucic, Puljujarvi, RNH and Strome
VS
Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Patrick, Konecny, Lindblom, Rubtsov


On defense:

Klefbom, Larsson, Sekera and Benning/Nurse
VS
Ghost, Provorov, Morin, Sanheim, Myers, Wilcox

In Goal:
Wells?
VS
Hart, Sandstrom
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Aug 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
They are gonna be close....people don't realize Edmonton had only 2 more wins than Calgary last year.

Replacing Wideman with Hamonic is a pretty big boost...but hyping up a team in the summer is for losers. Its put up or shut up time for both teams. Calgary, Anaheim, Edmonton, have no excuses...they should easily be the 3 pacific playoff teams in no particular order.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 23 @ 2:20 PM ET
I have just 6 points to make:

1) Oilers are a decent team with a superstar. And they suck!

2) Flames are a decent team with no superstars. And they DON'T suck!

3) Oilers will NOT sweep the Flames this year - that will be the difference over last year - just putting the Flames above the Oilers in the final standings. Oh - and the Oilers suck!Did I say that already?

4) Oilers suck!

5) Oilers suck!

6) Oilers suck!

That's it boys -end of discussion - I know you all will pick apart my extremely well thought out comments, but go ahead - I will do you all a favor and not post anything else on this blog, regardless of how you Oiler trolls try to get me to.

7) Oiler trolls/fans suck even more than the Oilers!


- hags11

Wrong. All you get is this:

Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Aug 23 @ 2:20 PM ET
I have just 6 points to make:

1) Oilers are a decent team with a superstar. And they suck!

2) Flames are a decent team with no superstars. And they DON'T suck!

3) Oilers will NOT sweep the Flames this year - that will be the difference over last year - just putting the Flames above the Oilers in the final standings. Oh - and the Oilers suck!Did I say that already?

4) Oilers suck!

5) Oilers suck!

6) Oilers suck!

That's it boys -end of discussion - I know you all will pick apart my extremely well thought out comments, but go ahead - I will do you all a favor and not post anything else on this blog, regardless of how you Oiler trolls try to get me to.

7) Oiler trolls/fans suck even more than the Oilers!


- hags11



Typical Flames fan....in so many ways.
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