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nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Aug 21 @ 7:39 PM ET
Bridgeport was actually good last year but their division was awesome and only 4 teams can make it per division so even though they were like 7 or 9 overall they didn't make it
- Upstate_isles


Same with the Islanders. Then it's ok not to make the POs

Garth Snow book of excuses, excuse number 37. The division we were in was tough.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Aug 21 @ 7:56 PM ET
I don't know about that. I think it could be Bailey, Nelson, Ladd. Ho Sang would be on the third line.
- JimmyP

Ho sang is a top 6 player and was playing there last year
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Aug 21 @ 7:58 PM ET
Same with the Islanders. Then it's ok not to make the POs

Garth Snow book of excuses, excuse number 37. The division we were in was tough.

- nyisles7

No the isles finished 17th over all and b port was like 7th unfortunately the other 4 teams were in that top 7 so they had more points then 9 teams that got in
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Aug 21 @ 8:18 PM ET
Ho sang is a top 6 player and was playing there last year
- Upstate_isles


I liked what we saw from him last year but, he's only played 21 games in the NHL. He needs to play more before I will call him a top 6 player.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Aug 21 @ 8:56 PM ET
I liked what we saw from him last year but, he's only played 21 games in the NHL. He needs to play more before I will call him a top 6 player.
- JimmyP

Well that's what doug weight called him not me
bgainesDM
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.09.2015

Aug 22 @ 1:30 AM ET
I know it's completely random, but anybody interested in joining a fall bowling league? One of my teammates is going to bootcamp, so I need a spot filled.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 22 @ 7:24 AM ET
Well that's what doug weight called him not me
- Upstate_isles

Garth Snow called Brian Strait a top 4 defenseman once upon a time.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Aug 22 @ 7:29 AM ET
Garth Snow called Brian Strait a top 4 defenseman once upon a time.
- Cptmjl

No offense but if you think ho sang is even in the same ballpark as strait then we should just agree to disagree now. Jhs has talent and speed galore and showed it last year, strait never had it or showed it.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 22 @ 7:39 AM ET
No offense but if you think ho sang is even in the same ballpark as strait then we should just agree to disagree now. Jhs has talent and speed galore and showed it last year, strait never had it or showed it.
- Upstate_isles

It was a joke. I think Ho Sang showed he has some skills but scoring at a .5 clip in 21 games of NHL experience doesn't make him a top 6 forward yet imo. He should by all means play in that role because that's where his skill set is but he'll have to prove be belongs to stay there. I believe that was Jimmy's point as well...
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Aug 22 @ 7:49 AM ET
It was a joke. I think Ho Sang showed he has some skills but scoring at a .5 clip in 21 games of NHL experience doesn't make him a top 6 forward yet imo. He should by all means play in that role because that's where his skill set is but he'll have to prove be belongs to stay there. I believe that was Jimmy's point as well...
- Cptmjl

Well you should both expect him to start there because weight will put players where they fit to be successful and that's where he wanted him last year. Also he proba my would have had more points if the guys out there were ready for half his passes
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 22 @ 7:51 AM ET
Well you should both expect him to start there because weight will put players where they fit to be successful and that's where he wanted him last year. Also he proba my would have had more points if the guys out there were ready for half his passes
- Upstate_isles

Well That's kind of the story with any good passers No? He just has to prove he belongs in that role is my point. Hopefully he does.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 22 @ 7:54 AM ET
remember the coach is Weight here not Cappy.
Ho Sang Could very well become our 2nd best player in next few years. Putting him on 3rd line is something cappy would do.

JHS should indeed be playing 2nd line and should also be one of our primary guys on PP.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 22 @ 7:57 AM ET
Bridgeport was actually good last year but their division was awesome and only 4 teams can make it per division so even though they were like 7 or 9 overall they didn't make it
- Upstate_isles



I assume you are kidding right? b/c aren't isles a good team but the Metro division was stacked? With the amount of time that Snow spends trying to make Bridgeport good then they should be better.

Only thing Bridgeport has been good for is developing our Defensive prospects.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 22 @ 9:07 AM ET
remember the coach is Weight here not Cappy.
Ho Sang Could very well become our 2nd best player in next few years. Putting him on 3rd line is something cappy would do.

JHS should indeed be playing 2nd line and should also be one of our primary guys on PP.

- Spartiarti

Weight is just as much of an unknown as jhs is. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Snow has based every, single, one of our seasons on unknowns since he became GM and it has worked out pretty much never. This season is no different.
Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 22 @ 9:26 AM ET
Weight is just as much of an unknown as jhs is. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Snow has based every, single, one of our seasons on unknowns since he became GM and it has worked out pretty much never. This season is no different.
- Cptmjl



Heaven forbid in all the years he's been GM, he would hire an experienced NHL coach.

Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Aug 22 @ 10:01 AM ET
remember the coach is Weight here not Cappy.
Ho Sang Could very well become our 2nd best player in next few years. Putting him on 3rd line is something cappy would do.

JHS should indeed be playing 2nd line and should also be one of our primary guys on PP.

- Spartiarti


So, if you're putting JHS on the 2nd line, then where are you putting Bailey? Because I think the lines are going to stack up like this:
Lee-JT-Eberle
Ladd-Nelson-Bailey
Chimera-Beau-JHS
Kuli-CC-CC

*Quine, Prince extras with the possibility of Barzal(though I think he'll spend the season in Bridge).
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Aug 22 @ 10:03 AM ET
Heaven forbid in all the years he's been GM, he would hire an experienced NHL coach.
- Mancalledsting


Snow can control an unknown coach. Nobody that's established would put up with his crap. It's all about control and wanting to look like the smartest one in the room. He runs this organization with his ego, not his brain.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Aug 22 @ 10:09 AM ET
I would love to read the reaction on these boards if the Islanders were thinking of having a college kid sign and be slotted to start at Center this season (Rangers Kerfoot)... You would all be suicidal and screaming at what a joke Snow was as a gm..etc.
- niteislander


1st, there are quite a few of us that already think Snow is a joke.
2nd, The Rags need centers. The Isles have a lot of centers. Most of them with established NHL experience at the position. So to say that we would all be suicidal is more than a bit overly-dramatic and presumptuous. Also, while there would probably be push-back at a move like that, it would probably be because of the "where would he play" factor more than the signing in and of itself.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Aug 22 @ 10:53 AM ET
It was a joke. I think Ho Sang showed he has some skills but scoring at a .5 clip in 21 games of NHL experience doesn't make him a top 6 forward yet imo. He should by all means play in that role because that's where his skill set is but he'll have to prove be belongs to stay there. I believe that was Jimmy's point as well...
- Cptmjl


It was. I loved some of the things I saw JSH do, but I need a larger sample size. I was one of the guys on here that was really high on Strome after his first season, so now I am a little more cautious. Hopefully JSH will live up to his potential.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Aug 22 @ 10:57 AM ET
It was. I loved some of the things I saw JSH do, but I need a larger sample size. I was one of the guys on here that was really high on Strome after his first season, so now I am a little more cautious. Hopefully JSH will live up to his potential.
- JimmyP

Let's hope. Of course, that's what we always do. Whether it's player development, making the playoffs or whatever. At least Crappy isn't around to dig his poisoned talons into.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Aug 22 @ 10:58 AM ET
So, if you're putting JHS on the 2nd line, then where are you putting Bailey? Because I think the lines are going to stack up like this:
Lee-JT-Eberle
Ladd-Nelson-Bailey
Chimera-Beau-JHS
Kuli-CC-CC

*Quine, Prince extras with the possibility of Barzal(though I think he'll spend the season in Bridge).

- Isleshockeyman


These are the lines I was thinking. Snow will want Ladd on the 2nd line.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Aug 22 @ 11:02 AM ET
These are the lines I was thinking. Snow will want Ladd on the 2nd line.
- JimmyP

I think so. Despite what 7 might think, Ladd can put up some goals(No,7, I'm not making another bet).
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 22 @ 11:19 AM ET
1st, there are quite a few of us that already think Snow is a joke.
2nd, The Rags need centers. The Isles have a lot of centers. Most of them with established NHL experience at the position. So to say that we would all be suicidal is more than a bit overly-dramatic and presumptuous. Also, while there would probably be push-back at a move like that, it would probably be because of the "where would he play" factor more than the signing in and of itself.

- Isleshockeyman


BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 22 @ 11:34 AM ET

- mdw7413



Yes?
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
So, if you're putting JHS on the 2nd line, then where are you putting Bailey? Because I think the lines are going to stack up like this:
Lee-JT-Eberle
Ladd-Nelson-Bailey
Chimera-Beau-JHS
Kuli-CC-CC

*Quine, Prince extras with the possibility of Barzal(though I think he'll spend the season in Bridge).

- Isleshockeyman


Bailey can play LW too. he has before.
Lee-JT-Eberle
Bailey-Nelson-JHS
Ladd-Beau-Chimera
Kuli-CC-CC

Barzal not making the big club over Beau. Beau has leapfrogged him. Barzal will be first call up if we lose someone injury.

Ladd will get plenty of PP time. He played his best last year with the other old fart Chimera at even strength.
Even if you start Ladd on 2nd line it wont last.
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