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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 17 @ 10:04 PM ET
Was looking into Tryamkins 3yr KHL contract & there is no out clause.
He could pay 2/3's to return here otherwise its the 2020-21 season at earliest.

IF in 3yrs or sooner I'd luv him back.
Edler should be done or traded.
Tanev maybe traded if EG shows he belongs.
That leaves Tryamkin EG OJ Stecher Hutton Brisebois possibly for 2020.
Nice mix but is there enough offense?
Next draft we might get another D hard to say could be a C.
Assets from Tanev & maybe Edler is added to our pipeline.
Upcoming drafts bringing more goodies.

Does that look appealing & hopefull for perennial PO's or cup contending?

- Nighthawk


The KHL salaries are low the real money payment is in the bonuses. Not to add the tax free endorsements. Most contract their NHL signing bonus to pay off what's left of KHL salary.

By the way what's the source on Tree's contract clauses?
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 17 @ 10:08 PM ET
It was a pretty good combination of things. One definitely doesn't trump another, just compounded it. It's not for everyone, that's all there is to it.
- manvanfan


I don't think Tryamkin really ever wanted to play in the NHL there was a reason he was passed over twice in the draft. He refused to play in Utica which would have probably been best for his development, he didn't like WD, and he had a Russian girlfriend back home who he was pining away for.

It also doesn't help that Stecher essentially took what he thought was his spot in the top 4 and he started seeing the writing on the wall with OJ coming that he could conceivably be the 7th or 8th D man on the roster and at which point why bother staying in NA when he could go home and be on the 1st pairing on his home team and possibly play for Russia in the Olympics.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 10:10 PM ET
I don't think Tryamkin really ever wanted to play in the NHL there was a reason he was passed over twice in the draft. He refused to play in Utica which would have probably been best for his development, he didn't like WD, and he had a Russian girlfriend back home who he was pining away for.

It also doesn't help that Stecher essentially took what he thought was his spot in the top 4 and he started seeing the writing on the wall with OJ coming that he could conceivably be the 7th or 8th D man on the roster and at which point why bother staying in NA when he could go home and be on the 1st pairing on his home team and possibly play for Russia in the Olympics.

- DariusKnight



There are more and more 6'7 Dmen coming in the league .Adios Tree .Nyet !
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 17 @ 10:26 PM ET
So after this week i've started looking into sending my daughter to a boarding school out of MB. Anyone else's kids go to boarding schools? Suggestions for good ones?

I also said I wasn't going to drink tonight. That isn't happening. Suicide squad, beers, and pizza.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 17 @ 10:27 PM ET
I don't think Tryamkin really ever wanted to play in the NHL there was a reason he was passed over twice in the draft. He refused to play in Utica which would have probably been best for his development, he didn't like WD, and he had a Russian girlfriend back home who he was pining away for.

It also doesn't help that Stecher essentially took what he thought was his spot in the top 4 and he started seeing the writing on the wall with OJ coming that he could conceivably be the 7th or 8th D man on the roster and at which point why bother staying in NA when he could go home and be on the 1st pairing on his home team and possibly play for Russia in the Olympics.

- DariusKnight


You could be right. But got a couple facts wrong. Tree was slow to develop as a big fella in Russia why he got passed over before. He showed up for the draft to show interest in NHL and was available to Canucks. His wife was with him here in Vancouver. She kept posting the fun they were having around Vancouver.

As for the deployment issue. Believe it was Sbisa being used more then him by WD and the struggling Hutton that rubbed the wrong way. The talk then was he was Canucks best D. Don't know if fans voting for Stecher as best D was a factor.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 17 @ 10:30 PM ET
There are more and more 6'7 Dmen coming in the league .Adios Tree .Nyet !
- VANTEL


Would you be saying that if you hear he's signing to come back for 2018?

I recall several posts of adoration by many during the season. Plus Tree and Bo being only untouchables.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 17 @ 10:36 PM ET
I stand corrected Daniel was 2OA & Hank 3OA
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 10:37 PM ET
Would you be saying that if you here he's signing to come back for 2018?

I recall several posts of adoration during the season. Plus Tree and Bo being only untouchables.

- Nuck4U



Mr ArguewithU where did I say I didn't like him. I am saying if he doesn't come back get the next one.

You really love to look for sh1t.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 17 @ 10:41 PM ET
I stand corrected Daniel was 2OA & Hank 3OA
- Nighthawk

Daniel was way better back then.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 10:46 PM ET
Daniel was way better back then.
- manvanfan

DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 17 @ 10:49 PM ET
You could be right. But got a couple facts wrong. Tree was slow to develop as a big fella in Russia why he got passed over before. He showed up for the draft to show interest in NHL and was available to Canucks. His wife was with him here in Vancouver. She kept posting the fun they were having around Vancouver.

As for the deployment issue. Believe it was Sbisa being used more then him by WD and the struggling Hutton that rubbed the wrong way. The talk then was he was Canucks best D. Don't know if fans voting for Stecher as best D was a factor.

- Nuck4U


Again, it took an extraordinary effort by JB and catering to Tryamkin via burning a year on his ELC and the either NHL or KHL clause in his contract to bring him over in the first place. That tells me his heart wasn't really in it. I just think his thought process went something like this: "I came over expecting to play top 4 minutes, get told I'd be slotting in there, then they draft OJ, trade for Guddy and sign Stecher who gets a spot in training camp while I am stuck in the press box for 10 games and cajoled to go play in Utica against my contract terms for 'conditioning'. Then I play well but Stecher is the flavor of the month and I am missing Russia and why should I resign when I will likely start the season as the 7th or 8th defenseman when I could play top 2 minutes in Russia for more money and play in the Olympics?"
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 17 @ 10:51 PM ET

- LeftCoaster

from 17-20 Daniel outscored Henrik. Every season.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 10:55 PM ET
from 17-20 Daniel outscored Henrik. Every season.
- manvanfan

No he didn't but you'd have to take into account center is a lot harder position to play.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 17 @ 10:57 PM ET
No he didn't but you'd have to take into account center is a lot harder position to play.
- LeftCoaster


Without Hank Daniel would be far less a player & not the other way around.
Could even say Hank carried Daniel a lot IMO
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 17 @ 11:12 PM ET
No he didn't but you'd have to take into account center is a lot harder position to play.
- LeftCoaster

Don't try so hard to make friends, just be yourself
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:15 PM ET
Don't try so hard to make friends, just be yourself
- manvanfan

I'm just telling you he didn't, their last year in MODO Hank had 47 points Daniel 45.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 17 @ 11:17 PM ET
So after this week i've started looking into sending my daughter to a boarding school out of MB. Anyone else's kids go to boarding schools? Suggestions for good ones?

I also said I wasn't going to drink tonight. That isn't happening. Suicide squad, beers, and pizza.

- manvanfan



Choose a nice nunnery
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:18 PM ET
I'm just telling you he didn't, their last year in MODO Hank had 47 points Daniel 45.
- LeftCoaster



Hello Modo

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 17 @ 11:19 PM ET
Dog days or not, this threat has hit rock bottom for some time now.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 17 @ 11:22 PM ET
I'm just telling you he didn't, their last year in MODO Hank had 47 points Daniel 45.
- LeftCoaster

Okay their first 2 years in modo
12-5 for daniel and 42-34 during draft year for daniel
47 to 45 for henrik
first year in the nhl 34-29 for daniel.
So that's 3-1 for Daniel in their first 4 years. After that it's 11-8 for Henrik.

After that is was henrik wins 2 years in a row then 1 for daniel.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:22 PM ET
Dog days or not, this threat has hit rock bottom for some time now.
- VanHockeyGuy

Are you helping or hurting that cause?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:23 PM ET
Okay their first 2 years in modo
12-5 for daniel and 42-34 during draft year for daniel
47 to 45 for henrik
first year in the nhl 34-29 for daniel.
So that's 3-1 for Daniel in their first 4 years. After that it's 11-8 for Henrik.

After that is was henrik wins 2 years in a row then 1 for daniel.

- manvanfan

Yes you're correct, now, sorry to of had to break the news to you
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 17 @ 11:25 PM ET
Are you helping or hurting that cause?
- LeftCoaster


Staying away
Bowel-Auger
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2016

Aug 17 @ 11:29 PM ET
What did it cost for that?
- manvanfan


Do you mean in Vantel dollars or CDN?


Let's just say that the same seats at the other end of the rink are 35% cheaper because it's the Canucks defensive zone for 2 periods. I argued with the Rep that that's where the game will be more often then not. The offensive end is anywhere from $900.00 to $1400.00 per seat for an 11 game pack
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:29 PM ET
Staying away
- VanHockeyGuy

When the season starts and the team starts losing the focus will be on the poopty players instead of each other
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