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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 16 @ 6:00 PM ET
Sign jagr trade hornqvist for a center. I am having a lot of trouble figuring out how we fix the center depth without loving someone well valued now.
- sditulli

There wasn't really one to begin with. Its just that getting Cullen back would have been a decent short term band aid while JR looked around and we wouldn't have been COMPLETELY (frank)ed if he ended up getting someone lack luster. Now if he gets someone that's not very good, we have no one who can pick up the slack.

I'm not worried about not getting a center. Rutherford will get a guy. But now there's no room for error since Rowney is our third center on the depth chart.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 16 @ 6:01 PM ET


Put like that, sounds like a butthole

I'll never see him the same again

Our C options

Drasaitls contract

Caps playoffs

This post

- Aussiepenguin

Holeinone was always an bumhole. Not sure why it took you this long to make that connection.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Aug 16 @ 6:06 PM ET
Holeinone was always an bumhole. Not sure why it took you this long to make that connection.
- Victoro311


His posts are entertaining - stupid but amusing, & I always think of golf when I see his name!
Jordy8
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 16 @ 6:14 PM ET
Thanks for the memmories cully, now its definitely time to flip one of the swedes probably horny, get this butcher kid n flip mataa. No need to panic but time to exhaust all options.
cranktheradio
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Greensburg, PA
Joined: 07.02.2011

Aug 16 @ 6:15 PM ET
There wasn't really one to begin with. Its just that getting Cullen back would have been a decent short term band aid while JR looked around and we wouldn't have been COMPLETELY (frank)ed if he ended up getting someone lack luster. Now if he gets someone that's not very good, we have no one who can pick up the slack.

I'm not worried about not getting a center. Rutherford will get a guy. But now there's no room for error since Rowney is our third center on the depth chart.

- Victoro311

Still think that Guentzel can fill in if needed. It's not ideal, but not horrible as a short term fix. Especially if Kessel is one of his wingers.
cranktheradio
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Greensburg, PA
Joined: 07.02.2011

Aug 16 @ 6:16 PM ET
Thanks for the memmories cully, now its definitely time to flip one of the swedes probably horny, get this butcher kid n flip mataa. No need to panic but time to exhaust all options.
- Jordy8

That puts Pouliot on the 3rd pair. I'm fine with that, but I'm not sure that the Pens want to go that route. I guess we'll see.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 16 @ 6:31 PM ET
Thanks for the memmories cully, now its definitely time to flip one of the swedes probably horny, get this butcher kid n flip mataa. No need to panic but time to exhaust all options.
- Jordy8

Butcher isn't gonna be an instant top 4 solution, and in fact we'll be lucky if he's ready for the NHL right off the bat to begin with. Butcher does not make Maatta expendable and people need to stop thinking that. Hunwick and Cole are not top 4 D men.
Jordy8
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 16 @ 7:02 PM ET
Butcher isn't gonna be an instant top 4 solution, and in fact we'll be lucky if he's ready for the NHL right off the bat to begin with. Butcher does not make Maatta expendable and people need to stop thinking that. Hunwick and Cole are not top 4 D men.
- Victoro311


Not saying he makes him expendable I would b.fine if he did next season tho. Puoliot lol dont forget about ruhwedel.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 16 @ 7:08 PM ET
Thanks for the memmories cully, now its definitely time to flip one of the swedes probably horny, get this butcher kid n flip mataa. No need to panic but time to exhaust all options.
- Jordy8

What are you flipping Maatta for?
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 16 @ 7:10 PM ET
I bet it ends up being hags flipped at some point
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 16 @ 7:11 PM ET
Not saying he makes him expendable I would b.fine if he did next season tho. Puoliot lol dont forget about ruhwedel.
- Jordy8

If Maatta OR Dumoulin ever become expendable I'll be the first to advocate moving them. Neither have value contracts. But as of now, top 4 LD is our absolute weakest position, and LD might be our weakest position of organizational strength period. I don't know. Its a fairly big toss up between LD and RD. At least RD has Letang and Schultz, although Letang not being capable of staying healthy is not great.

Maatta is simply not expendable right now.
Jordy8
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 16 @ 7:15 PM ET
What are you flipping Maatta for?
- 668710


Im just saying the c depth took a big hit I think olli stays tho, I would like them to grab karllson from Vegas, wonder if burmistrov is available for cheap, this is gonna b interesting
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Aug 16 @ 7:17 PM ET
If Maatta OR Dumoulin ever become expendable I'll be the first to advocate moving them. Neither have value contracts. But as of now, top 4 LD is our absolute weakest position, and LD might be our weakest position of organizational strength period. I don't know. Its a fairly big toss up between LD and RD. At least RD has Letang and Schultz, although Letang not being capable of staying healthy is not great.

Maatta is simply not expendable right now.

- Victoro311


He's not. If you believe Yohe's reporting, he says JR/team is still really high on him.

668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 16 @ 7:20 PM ET
Im just saying the c depth took a big hit I think olli stays tho, I would like them to grab karllson from Vegas, wonder if burmistrov is available for cheap, this is gonna b interesting
- Jordy8

Yea the C position took a big hit but so will our D position if we move one of them too. It's gonna have to be a package with one of our wingers for it to make sense for us to grab a C
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Aug 16 @ 7:20 PM ET
Im just saying the c depth took a big hit I think olli stays tho, I would like them to grab karllson from Vegas, wonder if burmistrov is available for cheap, this is gonna b interesting
- Jordy8


JR shouldn't have given Cullen so long to make his decision. It was a mistake. Jussi could have really helped us and he signed for nothing. At the very least, he could bought JR some time.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 16 @ 7:39 PM ET
JR shouldn't have given Cullen so long to make his decision. It was a mistake. Jussi could have really helped us and he signed for nothing. At the very least, he could bought JR some time.
- madmike71

Read the Mackey/Yohe article on this. It was all about settling his family down back home. Sounds like he really wanted to come back to Pitt, but his family called him to Minn. It was the Wild or retirement it seems.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Aug 16 @ 7:46 PM ET
Read the Mackey/Yohe article on this. It was all about settling his family down back home. Sounds like he really wanted to come back to Pitt, but his family called him to Minn. It was the Wild or retirement it seems.
- Victoro311


Good for him. He was a huge part of the 2 cups.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 16 @ 9:04 PM ET




Awesome. At least he isn't dead set on a 3C with PK experience. That would have been a mistake.
T-Train
Joined: 06.20.2016

Aug 16 @ 9:18 PM ET
JR shouldn't have given Cullen so long to make his decision. It was a mistake. Jussi could have really helped us and he signed for nothing. At the very least, he could bought JR some time.
- madmike71

Eh, I don't think JR was waiting on Cullen. I can't remember what was said, but I'm not sure JR even wanted Cullen back. Seems to be a push for a lot of new, fresh blood on the team. I also think if JR wanted Jussi he would be a Pen right now (assuming Jussi would want to sign with the Pens). I don't know why JR didn't want Jussi, but I guess he has his reasons. Someone said he skates like he's wearing snowshoes, so maybe that's it. I personally thought he would be a great fit.

I'm ok with Cullen leaving. His play seemed to decline over the two years he was here. I know his numbers don't necessarily indicate that, but just my observation. Not sure if Rowney is, or will ever be, ready for the full-time 4C gig.
T-Train
Joined: 06.20.2016

Aug 16 @ 9:27 PM ET
I get that, but Minnesota isn't winning poop. That's a given.

Well if we're going the "home" and "one last time" route, can we please sign Jagr? It's a given for Pittsburgh that we're going to have injuries. Might as well get some wing insurance. The guy can still score.

- simethos

Please, no more Jagr talk. He has ONE goal in his last 40 playoff games. He is cooked, done.
T-Train
Joined: 06.20.2016

Aug 16 @ 9:32 PM ET
Now that we're down Cullen, I'd bet the plan is to run JSD as our 3C. That's pretty unacceptable. The Old Man can't wait until New Years to find a center.
- Victoro311

Interestingly, JS Dea remains one of 18 unsigned RFAs. Not sure what the holdup is since low salary players in the minors usually get signed first/quickly. I thought maybe he might be used in a trade if we are acquiring a center and the other team wants a center back. I highly doubt he will be our 4C this year, let alone our 3C. I'm not even sure Rowney is the full-time 4C and he's shown more than Dea. Somethin's a cookin'. But JR has got 1.5 months to figure it out.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 16 @ 9:36 PM ET
Please, no more Jagr talk. He has ONE goal in his last 40 playoff games. He is cooked, done.
- T-Train


lol no.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 16 @ 9:38 PM ET
Interestingly, JS Dea remains one of 18 unsigned RFAs. Not sure what the holdup is since low salary players in the minors usually get signed first/quickly. I thought maybe he might be used in a trade if we are acquiring a center and the other team wants a center back. I highly doubt he will be our 4C this year, let alone our 3C. I'm not even sure Rowney is the full-time 4C and he's shown more than Dea. Somethin's a cookin'. But JR has got 1.5 months to figure it out.
- T-Train

Didn't even know he was an unsigned RFA. Not surprised. He's not an NHL talent. I just assumed since he's been in the system longer he'd be more ready to contribute than Bleuger.
T-Train
Joined: 06.20.2016

Aug 16 @ 9:44 PM ET
lol no.
- j.boyd919

lol k.
T-Train
Joined: 06.20.2016

Aug 16 @ 9:48 PM ET
Didn't even know he was an unsigned RFA. Not surprised. He's not an NHL talent. I just assumed since he's been in the system longer he'd be more ready to contribute than Bleuger.
- Victoro311

He's still only 23, but I don't know, maybe they are cutting bait on him. He scores in the mid-30s in WBS and looks to be more of a goal scorer than a distributor, so there's a good chance he doesn't even project as a center if he ever makes it to the NHL. He was undrafted so it's not like he was a hot prospect to begin with.
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